Byzantine Empire 1933-35

Jefgte · October 22, 2024, 03:56:46 AM

Quote...As I've mentioned before, protective decks can be problematic...

Oups... this is a bullet.
SS corrected to "armored deck".

Jefgte · October 22, 2024, 04:06:53 PM

I think the last SS without bullet...

Real cost with Uparty 254/45 mlle1925 turrets: 12.9BP & $

Kadelah - Kilak, Byzantine Empire AC11 ala Tone laid down 1935

Displacement:
15 100 t light; 15 958 t standard; 17 433 t normal; 18 612 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(634,64 ft / 631,23 ft) x 77,92 ft x (23,63 / 24,86 ft)
(193,44 m / 192,40 m) x 23,75 m x (7,20 / 7,58 m)

Armament:
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
12 - 5,24" / 133 mm 45,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 200 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 009 lbs / 2 272 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 410,30 ft / 125,06 m 10,60 ft / 3,23 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 220,90 ft / 67,33 m 10,60 ft / 3,23 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 410,30 ft / 125,06 m 21,29 ft / 6,49 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 61,52 ft / 18,75 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 11,0" / 280 mm
2nd: 9,06" / 230 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 130 shp / 69 475 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 654 tons

Complement:
758 - 986

Cost:
£6,721 million / $26,884 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 292 tons, 7,4 %
- Guns: 1 292 tons, 7,4 %
Armour: 5 006 tons, 28,7 %
- Belts: 1 537 tons, 8,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 509 tons, 2,9 %
- Armament: 1 377 tons, 7,9 %
- Armour Deck: 1 424 tons, 8,2 %
- Conning Towers: 160 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 2 646 tons, 15,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 661 tons, 32,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 333 tons, 13,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 495 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 245 tons
- Above deck: 175 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25 610 lbs / 11 617 Kg = 51,2 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,1 m
Roll period: 16,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,61
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,533
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,10 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,72 ft / 8,45 m, 23,79 ft / 7,25 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 23,79 ft / 7,25 m, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m
- Average freeboard: 20,90 ft / 6,37 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172,8 %
Waterplane Area: 33 534 Square feet or 3 115 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 685 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,42
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
129t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
15t night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
160t for cata + 6 armed seaplanes
17t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps

Jefgte · October 24, 2024, 04:14:32 PM

QuoteThe ABG4100 is only 1/4 larger than the ABG3000, but has 50% more firepower, and armor.
I would think it would be worth having fewer hulls with that better capacity.

Small cruisers 3000t,(CAGB) could n't be classed with 6000t & 8000t cruisers .
They are renamed "Frigate" => F

F18 use the 6"/45 mlle 1925 from Uparty class BB

Real cost is: 3.875BP & 3.875$

F18, Byzantine Empire F18 laid down 1935

Displacement:
4 100 t light; 4 338 t standard; 4 826 t normal; 5 216 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(491,62 ft / 485,56 ft) x 52,49 ft x (13,69 / 14,51 ft)
(149,85 m / 148,00 m) x 16,00 m x (4,17 / 4,42 m)

Armament:
4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 897 lbs / 407 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 336,48 ft / 102,56 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 149,05 ft / 45,43 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 2,76" / 70 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 45 330 shp / 33 816 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 879 tons

Complement:
289 - 376

Cost:
£2,034 million / $8,136 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 230 tons, 4,8 %
- Guns: 230 tons, 4,8 %
Armour: 896 tons, 18,6 %
- Belts: 399 tons, 8,3 %
- Armament: 59 tons, 1,2 %
- Armour Deck: 413 tons, 8,6 %
- Conning Towers: 24 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 1 288 tons, 26,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 497 tons, 31,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 726 tons, 15,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 3,9 %
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 102 tons
- Above deck: 68 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 665 lbs / 2 116 Kg = 43,5 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,484 / 0,494
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,85 %, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m
- Forward deck: 34,65 %, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m
- Aft deck: 34,65 %, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 14,85 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m
- Average freeboard: 16,89 ft / 5,15 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180,1 %
Waterplane Area: 16 740 Square feet or 1 555 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 315 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,73
- Longitudinal: 1,03
- Overall: 0,75
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
23t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD-95t
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
10t for night fighting
15t for Enhanced Hydrophone
6t for 30 x 195kg DC
25t for cata + seaplane
15t reserved for new materials, armaments.
AW
climatisation
BW
20t for additionnal pumps

Jefgte · November 02, 2024, 08:25:41 AM

10000t Troop Transport, Byzantine Empire - 2000 marines Troop Transport laid down 1935

Displacement:
10 000 t light; 10 318 t standard; 11 311 t normal; 12 106 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(492,28 ft / 488,85 ft) x 75,46 ft x (17,14 / 18,15 ft)
(150,05 m / 149,00 m) x 23,00 m x (5,23 / 5,53 m)

Armament:
8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 4-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 297 lbs / 135 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 21 000 shp / 15 666 Kw = 21,01 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 788 tons

Complement:
547 - 712

Cost:
£2,282 million / $9,127 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 49 tons, 0,4 %
- Guns: 49 tons, 0,4 %
Armour: 8 tons, 0,1 %
- Armament: 8 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 597 tons, 5,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 006 tons, 26,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 311 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 340 tons, 56,1 %
- Hull below water: 1 840 tons
- Hull above water: 2 400 tons
- On freeboard deck: 2 000 tons
- Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
22 301 lbs / 10 115 Kg = 206,5 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36
Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 13,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,55

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,633
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,48 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 24,44 ft / 7,45 m, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
- Aft deck: 30,00 %, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
- Average freeboard: 16,41 ft / 5,00 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 60,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,0 %
Waterplane Area: 27 640 Square feet or 2 568 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 147 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 410 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,99
- Longitudinal: 1,08
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 6340t
AD
Short Marconi
OD
1600t for 800 soldiers
400t for 4x100t light landing crafts
AW
2400t for 1200 soldiers
BW
1840t for food, materials, armored cars, artillery, horses, camels...

Jefgte · November 04, 2024, 04:22:32 PM

TGB for colonial works with LR Marconi:
Patrols, escort, ASM work...

TGB500D, Byzantine Empire TGB500D laid down 1935

Displacement:
   500 t light; 530 t standard; 567 t normal; 596 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (245,82 ft / 242,78 ft) x 26,12 ft x (6,87 / 7,12 ft)
   (74,93 m / 74,00 m) x 7,96 m x (2,10 / 2,17 m)

Armament:
2 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 240 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 74 lbs / 34 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm     -           -
   2nd:   0,24" / 6 mm     -           -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 7 640 shp / 5 700 Kw = 25,00 kts
   Range 4 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 66 tons

Complement:
   57 - 75

Cost:
   £0,263 million / $1,050 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 14 tons, 2,6 %
     - Guns: 14 tons, 2,6 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 0,5 %
     - Armament: 3 tons, 0,5 %
   Machinery: 217 tons, 38,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 212 tons, 37,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 66 tons, 11,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 54 tons, 9,5 %
     - On freeboard deck: 32 tons
     - Above deck: 22 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     421 lbs / 191 Kg = 13,0 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 12,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,21
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,455 / 0,462
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,58 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   22,00 %, 17,22 ft / 5,25 m, 13,29 ft / 4,05 m
     - Forward deck:   30,00 %, 13,29 ft / 4,05 m, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m
     - Aft deck:   28,00 %, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m, 10,01 ft / 3,05 m
     - Quarter deck:   20,00 %, 10,01 ft / 3,05 m, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m
     - Average freeboard:      11,89 ft / 3,62 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 139,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 4 061 Square feet or 377 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 137 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,64
      - Longitudinal: 3,00
      - Overall: 0,75
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

AD
25t for LR Marconi
2t for 1930 fire control
OD
9 tons for 3TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 60x90kg DC
2t for paravanes
AW
climatisation

Jefgte · November 08, 2024, 03:47:13 PM

Byzance strengthens its detection and surveillance potential at long distances 150-200nm for the colonies.
P700 will be relay ships (LR radio) for the TGB (SR radio) already assigned to patrols.

700t Patrol Boat to work in colonies.
The last one, from 1917, was 900t.

Mercantile cost: 0.175BP & $

P700, Byzantine Empire Patrol Boat laid down 1935

Displacement:
620 t light; 649 t standard; 700 t normal; 742 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(262,05 ft / 260,17 ft) x 31,17 ft x (6,64 / 6,92 ft)
(79,87 m / 79,30 m) x 9,50 m x (2,03 / 2,11 m)

Armament:
1 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal gun - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 280 per gun
Dual purpose gun in deck mount, 1935 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 41 lbs / 19 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 8 634 shp / 6 441 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 5 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 93 tons

Complement:
67 - 88

Cost:
£0,296 million / $1,184 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 8 tons, 1,2 %
- Guns: 8 tons, 1,2 %
Armour: 2 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 245 tons, 35,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 259 tons, 37,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 80 tons, 11,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 105 tons, 15,0 %
- Hull above water: 58 tons
- On freeboard deck: 21 tons
- Above deck: 26 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
597 lbs / 271 Kg = 18,4 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 12,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,07
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,455 / 0,462
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,35 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16,13 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22,00 %, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m, 13,94 ft / 4,25 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 13,94 ft / 4,25 m, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m
- Aft deck: 28,00 %, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m, 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
- Average freeboard: 12,24 ft / 3,73 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 127,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156,4 %
Waterplane Area: 5 194 Square feet or 483 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 150 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,67
- Longitudinal: 2,09
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for LR Marconi
1t for 1930 fire control
OD
15t for enhanced hydrophone
3.8t for 38x90kg DC
2t for paravanes
AW
58t Miscellaneous Cargo
climatisation

The Rock Doctor · November 08, 2024, 07:18:13 PM

I feel like I'd want more or heavier depth charges, but otherwise I think that would be a very handy vessel.

Jefgte · November 09, 2024, 12:17:19 AM

QuoteI feel like I'd want more or heavier depth charges, but otherwise I think that would be a very handy vessel.

Me too, but P700 is a mercantile ship, 2% max (14t) for armament & Armour.
Actualy, 1.97% (13,8t).

Jefgte · November 09, 2024, 04:37:30 PM

Update CV3-1932-21050t to CV4-1935-24200t

Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-60 aircrafts laid down 1935

Displacement:
24 200 t light; 25 099 t standard; 27 429 t normal; 29 293 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(730,76 ft / 728,35 ft) x 98,43 ft x (26,78 / 28,15 ft)
(222,74 m / 222,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,16 / 8,58 m)

Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 473,43 ft / 144,30 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 254,89 ft / 77,69 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,97" / 50 mm 473,43 ft / 144,30 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 473,43 ft / 144,30 m 23,56 ft / 7,18 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 78,74 ft / 24,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 120 000 shp / 89 520 Kw = 30,19 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 194 tons

Complement:
1 065 - 1 385

Cost:
£6,942 million / $27,766 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,6 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,6 %
Armour: 5 149 tons, 18,8 %
- Belts: 1 199 tons, 4,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 812 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 120 tons, 11,4 %
Machinery: 3 409 tons, 12,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 808 tons, 32,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 229 tons, 11,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 680 tons, 24,4 %
- Hull below water: 3 235 tons
- Hull above water: 3 170 tons
- On freeboard deck: 210 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
69 243 lbs / 31 408 Kg = 641,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,40
Metacentric height 8,8 ft / 2,7 m
Roll period: 13,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 95 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,99

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 33,05 ft / 10,08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 336,0 %
Waterplane Area: 47 764 Square feet or 4 437 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 644 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,92
- Longitudinal: 2,02
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 6670t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
2850t for 30 aircrafts-1934
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
120t reserved for materials
HBW
2850t for 30 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
140t reserved for material...

Jefgte · November 19, 2024, 01:22:17 AM

Update CV4 to 25000t was 24200t
Lenght 224.74m was 222.74m for 225m shipyards.
66 aircrafts was 60.

Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-66 aircrafts laid down 1935

Mavildeniz LD 1935H1
Beyazdeniz LD 1935H2

Displacement:
25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(737,32 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
(224,74 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)

Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 477,69 ft / 145,60 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 257,19 ft / 78,39 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,18" / 30 mm 477,69 ft / 145,60 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 477,69 ft / 145,60 m 24,08 ft / 7,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 78,74 ft / 24,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 122 000 shp / 91 012 Kw = 30,21 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons

Complement:
1 089 - 1 417

Cost:
£7,125 million / $28,499 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 5 108 tons, 18,1 %
- Belts: 1 081 tons, 3,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 838 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 149 tons, 11,1 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 3 466 tons, 12,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 026 tons, 31,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 7 245 tons, 25,6 %
- Hull below water: 3 520 tons
- Hull above water: 3 450 tons
- On freeboard deck: 210 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
69 700 lbs / 31 616 Kg = 645,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,39
Metacentric height 8,7 ft / 2,7 m
Roll period: 14,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 33,05 ft / 10,08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 651 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,93
- Longitudinal: 2,01
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 7245t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
120t reserved for materials
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
140t reserved for material...

Kaiser Kirk · November 19, 2024, 09:00:47 AM

Looks similar to my 'Burning Bow'. I think you saved some tonnage.

Technically, under the Aviation ship rules you are not allowed to adjust the freeboard lengths.
"Use the default "Length % of Lwl" setting."
But with 17.5 , 32.5, 32.5 and 17.5 you are not actually changing the citadel(hanger) / bow & stern %, just making them even breaks.
So I do not think that is a problem.

The ship can not have a lowered quarter deck. You can have a lowered forecastle.
"This represents the Flight Deck and applies from "Quarter deck Freeboard-aft" to "Fore deck Freeboard-forward".

This may be extended to cover the forecastle OR the forecastle may be left 5m (15ft) lower and serve as a "flying off deck", increasing take off rate."

The TDS is 24m wide, the hull 30m, which only gives a 3m interior space.
I do not know what the 'correct' number would be, my impression is more is better.

Jefgte · November 19, 2024, 04:11:59 PM

Quote"Use the default "Length % of Lwl" setting."

I did

QuoteThe TDS is 24m wide, the hull 30m, which only gives a 3m interior space.
I do not know what the 'correct' number would be, my impression is more is better.

24m is a bullet, I wrote 22m.

QuoteThe ship can not have a lowered quarter deck. You can have a lowered forecastle.
"This represents the Flight Deck and applies from "Quarter deck Freeboard-aft" to "Fore deck Freeboard-forward".

This may be extended to cover the forecastle OR the forecastle may be left 5m (15ft) lower and serve as a "flying off deck", increasing take off rate."

The Byzantine CVs are a mix of the British CVs (Ark Royal, Victorious, Implacable) with a clear profile at the ends like the Japanese CVs (Akagi, Junyo...) with beams and posts to support the flight deck.
I love Akagi look.

ReSS CV4 with minor adjustments

Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-66 aircrafts laid down 1935

Displacement:
   25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (737,32 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
   (224,74 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)

Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm   507,09 ft / 154,56 m   11,91 ft / 3,63 m
   Ends:   1,18" / 30 mm   227,79 ft / 69,43 m   11,91 ft / 3,63 m
   Upper:   1,18" / 30 mm   507,09 ft / 154,56 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,97" / 50 mm   507,09 ft / 154,56 m   24,08 ft / 7,34 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm     -           -
   3rd:   0,24" / 6 mm     -           -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118 600 shp / 88 476 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons

Complement:
   1 089 - 1 417

Cost:
   £7,056 million / $28,223 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
     - Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
   Armour: 5 258 tons, 18,6 %
     - Belts: 1 115 tons, 3,9 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 3,1 %
     - Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
     - Armour Deck: 3 212 tons, 11,4 %
     - Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 3 369 tons, 11,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 974 tons, 31,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7 245 tons, 25,6 %
     - Hull below water: 3 520 tons
     - Hull above water: 3 450 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 210 tons
     - Above deck: 65 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     70 354 lbs / 31 912 Kg = 651,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,39
   Metacentric height 8,6 ft / 2,6 m
   Roll period: 14,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   16,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
     - Forward deck:   34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
     - Aft deck:   34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
     - Quarter deck:   15,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
     - Average freeboard:      33,79 ft / 10,30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 643 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,92
      - Longitudinal: 2,12
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 7245t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
120t reserved for materials
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
140t reserved for material...

Kaiser Kirk · November 19, 2024, 07:34:24 PM

Quote from: Jefgte on November 19, 2024, 04:11:59 PM
Quote"Use the default "Length % of Lwl" setting."
I did

The Byzantine CVs are a mix of the British CVs (Ark Royal, Victorious, Implacable) with a clear profile at the ends like the Japanese CVs (Akagi, Junyo...) with beams and posts to support the flight deck.
I love Akagi look.

When you start a fresh SS,
-switch to the 'freeboard' tab
-hit "flush deck " or "mid break" on upper right.
The program will provide the defaults.

QuoteFreeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   20.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
     - Aft deck:   35.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
     - Quarter deck:   15.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
     - Average freeboard:      0.00 ft / 0.00 m

The freeboard and the Length % of Lwl specifications were meant to ensure we are all modeling under the same rules. All of our hanger sizes w

The actual "look" of the carrier can be somewhat different.

For example, the Flight Deck Cruiser rules are either Quarterdeck + Aft OR Forecastle +Fore.
Aft + Fore is not an option.
That makes it sound like all your guns have to be foredeck or aft deck.
However you can specify some of the guns are fore and other aft.
Why?
Because the gun tab does not allow you to place guns on the forecastle or stern if you did Aft+Fore.
So the SS has to have that space available without the +hanger freeboard, or else SS would put all that weight high up
in the ship.

There's a great number of compromises when using a nice simple bit of free software for fairly complex structures.

Jefgte · November 20, 2024, 01:17:33 AM

Still 25000t
Fine adjustments on "Freeboard" & "reserved for materiel"

Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-66 aircrafts laid down 1935

Displacement:
25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(738,04 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
(224,96 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)

Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 227,79 ft / 69,43 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,18" / 30 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 24,08 ft / 7,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118 600 shp / 88 476 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons

Complement:
1 089 - 1 417

Cost:
£7,056 million / $28,223 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 5 258 tons, 18,6 %
- Belts: 1 115 tons, 3,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 3,1 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 212 tons, 11,4 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 3 369 tons, 11,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 019 tons, 31,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 7 200 tons, 25,5 %
- Hull below water: 3 500 tons
- Hull above water: 3 465 tons
- On freeboard deck: 170 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
70 240 lbs / 31 860 Kg = 650,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
Metacentric height 8,6 ft / 2,6 m
Roll period: 14,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 29,82 ft / 9,09 m, 24,41 ft / 7,44 m
- Forward deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m
- Average freeboard: 34,26 ft / 10,44 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 131 lbs/sq ft or 640 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,91
- Longitudinal: 2,19
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 7245t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
100t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
100t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
100t reserved for materials
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
120t reserved for material...

Kaiser Kirk · November 20, 2024, 10:39:34 AM

QuoteFreeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 29,82 ft / 9,09 m, 24,41 ft / 7,44 m
- Forward deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m
- Average freeboard: 34,26 ft / 10,44 m

The forecastle can be 16% rather than 20% as you have the option of extending the flight deck over the forecastle.
"This may be extended to cover the forecastle OR the forecastle may be left 5m (15ft) lower and serve as a "flying off deck", increasing take off rate.", and you are moving that 4% to the citadel , leaving the 34.5 / 34.5 break instead of the 30/35% break.

The 12m flight deck is standard for a double hanger design.
Since the forecastle is 7.44m-9.09m, not (12-5) = 7m, it is not a flying off deck.

The quarterdeck must be the same as the flight deck, 12m in this case.
The 5.78m high quarter deck is not allowable.