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Jefgte

#90
The first Flat Deck for Byzance.

Flat Deck, Byzantine Empire 10000t Flat Deck laid down 1926

Displacement:
   10 000 t light; 10 288 t standard; 11 182 t normal; 11 898 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (572,94 ft / 570,87 ft) x 71,39 ft x (18,29 / 19,19 ft)
   (174,63 m / 174,00 m) x 21,76 m  x (5,58 / 5,85 m)

Armament:
      8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 240 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      8 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 474 lbs / 215 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   1,77" / 45 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 65 000 shp / 48 490 Kw = 29,01 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 610 tons

Complement:
   543 - 706

Cost:
   £2,301 million / $9,204 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 83 tons, 0,7 %
      - Guns: 83 tons, 0,7 %
   Armour: 683 tons, 6,1 %
      - Armament: 8 tons, 0,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 675 tons, 6,0 %
   Machinery: 2 081 tons, 18,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 891 tons, 43,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 182 tons, 10,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 263 tons, 20,2 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull above water: 1 150 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 1 040 tons
      - Above deck: 33 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27 645 lbs / 12 540 Kg = 524,3 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 2,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 3,6 ft / 1,1 m
   Roll period: 15,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,532
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   12,00 %,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Forward deck:   40,00 %,  36,09 ft / 11,00 m,  36,09 ft / 11,00 m
      - Aft deck:   40,00 %,  36,09 ft / 11,00 m,  36,09 ft / 11,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   8,00 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      32,31 ft / 9,85 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 27 786 Square feet or 2 581 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 152 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 95 lbs/sq ft or 462 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,84
      - Longitudinal: 4,45
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight:
AD:25t for LR Marconi
8t for 1924 fire control

18 to 24 aircrafts max:
OD:960t for 12 aircrafts
HAW:960t for 12 aircrafts
40t for climatisation
100t for aircrafts spare parts
HBW:40t for additionnal pumps
100t reserved for  material...


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

I thought you'd already built a carrier?

Jefgte

QuoteI thought you'd already built a carrier?

I built 4 Seaplane Carriers in 1919.
=>  Land trials, recent advances in aviation, bombing, torpedoing, hunting, as well as the emergence of aircraft carriers in other countries, necessitate the building of experimental aircraft carriers for Byzantium.

=> This will cause increased Anti Aircraft guns on ships in the fleet in the next years.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#93
D12, Byzantine Empire Marmara class laid down 1926

Displacement:
   1 550 t light; 1 629 t standard; 1 851 t normal; 2 029 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (383,17 ft / 380,58 ft) x 36,48 ft x (11,67 / 12,39 ft)
   (116,79 m / 116,00 m) x 11,12 m  x (3,56 / 3,78 m)

Armament:
      6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
      1 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal gun - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air gun in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      1 raised mount
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 raised mounts
      2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 325 lbs / 147 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 35 350 shp / 26 371 Kw = 32,30 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 400 tons

Complement:
   140 - 183

Cost:
   £0,693 million / $2,774 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 62 tons, 3,3 %
      - Guns: 62 tons, 3,3 %
   Armour: 9 tons, 0,5 %
      - Armament: 9 tons, 0,5 %
   Machinery: 926 tons, 50,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 442 tons, 23,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 301 tons, 16,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 111 tons, 6,0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 80 tons
      - Above deck: 31 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     516 lbs / 234 Kg = 9,8 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24
   Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m
   Roll period: 12,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,26
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,413
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,51 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  18,45 ft / 5,63 m,  15,17 ft / 4,63 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  15,17 ft / 4,63 m,  12,55 ft / 3,83 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  12,55 ft / 3,83 m,  12,55 ft / 3,83 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  12,55 ft / 3,83 m,  13,21 ft / 4,03 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,72 ft / 4,18 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 8 547 Square feet or 794 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 73 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 158 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,09
      - Overall: 0,54
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

32t for 8TT x 533 HW
6t for 1918 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
6t for additionnal engines ventillation
15t for improved Hydrophone
5t for 50x90DC
34t reserved for new material, armament, minen.

Trial speed: 33kts
Bonus: 0.7

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#94
To face the powerful cruisers of 8000/10000 t, Byzantium chose the double mountings on its new cruisers.
the 6000t - C9 from 1922 with 6M1x191 - ABC---XYZ
will be followed by the 8000t - C11 with 6M2x191 - ABC---XYZ.
A simple and logical evolution.

Lamia - Larisa, Byzantine Empire C11 laid down 1926

Displacement:
   8 000 t light; 8 452 t standard; 9 238 t normal; 9 866 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (547,60 ft / 544,62 ft) x 61,88 ft x (19,66 / 20,65 ft)
   (166,91 m / 166,00 m) x 18,86 m  x (5,99 / 6,29 m)

Armament:
      12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,6 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 837 lbs / 1 287 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   367,45 ft / 112,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   1,38" / 35 mm   177,17 ft / 54,00 m   7,87 ft / 2,40 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,51" / 140 mm   0,98" / 25 mm      1,97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 65 000 shp / 48 490 Kw = 30,02 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 414 tons

Complement:
   470 - 612

Cost:
   £2,956 million / $11,825 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 797 tons, 8,6 %
      - Guns: 797 tons, 8,6 %
   Armour: 1 530 tons, 16,6 %
      - Belts: 657 tons, 7,1 %
      - Armament: 118 tons, 1,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 691 tons, 7,5 %
      - Conning Towers: 63 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 2 081 tons, 22,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 321 tons, 36,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 238 tons, 13,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 271 tons, 2,9 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull above water: 40 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 86 tons
      - Above deck: 105 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 826 lbs / 4 457 Kg = 46,2 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
   Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 16,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,80
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,496
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,34 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,00 %,  24,28 ft / 7,40 m,  20,67 ft / 6,30 m
      - Forward deck:   34,00 %,  20,67 ft / 6,30 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      18,32 ft / 5,58 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 160,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 211 Square feet or 2 063 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 538 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,47
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Long Range Marconi
80t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
40t for climatisation
40t for additionnal pumps
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
25t for seaplane + cata
29t reserved

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

An interesting reduction of the 500t TB build in 50m shipyards.
Always to works in Red Sea, Aden Gulf & Egee Sea

T333, Byzantine Empire T333 laid down 1926

Displacement:
   333 t light; 342 t standard; 367 t normal; 387 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (163,64 ft / 161,75 ft) x 17,49 ft x (11,65 / 12,05 ft)
   (49,88 m / 49,30 m) x 5,33 m  x (3,55 / 3,67 m)

Armament:
      1 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal gun - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      1 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal gun - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 17 lbs / 8 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 10 000 shp / 7 460 Kw = 26,98 kts
   Range 2 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 45 tons

Complement:
   41 - 54

Cost:
   £0,133 million / $0,531 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,9 %
      - Guns: 3 tons, 0,9 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 0,8 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0,8 %
   Machinery: 185 tons, 50,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 109 tons, 29,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 34 tons, 9,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 33 tons, 9,0 %
      - Hull below water: 17 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 16 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     99 lbs / 45 Kg = 7,3 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,01
   Metacentric height 0,4 ft / 0,1 m
   Roll period: 12,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,390 / 0,397
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12,72 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 74 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  13,45 ft / 4,10 m,  11,81 ft / 3,60 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  11,81 ft / 3,60 m,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m
      - Average freeboard:      10,29 ft / 3,14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 1 729 Square feet or 161 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 54 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 102 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 8,60
      - Overall: 0,66
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

16 tons for 4 TTx21" HW
17t lest
Trial speed: 30.5kts
Bonus: 3.52

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

An economic & powerful gunboat to protect colonies.

CAGB3000, Byzantine Empire Colonial Armored Gun Boat laid down 1927

Displacement:
   3 000 t light; 3 222 t standard; 3 443 t normal; 3 620 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,04 ft / 406,82 ft) x 49,21 ft x (12,04 / 12,50 ft)
   (124,68 m / 124,00 m) x 15,00 m  x (3,67 / 3,81 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      1 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal gun - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 300 per gun
     Anti-air gun in deck mount, 1927 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      1 raised mount
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 625 lbs / 737 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   265,75 ft / 81,00 m   9,19 ft / 2,80 m
   Ends:   1,18" / 30 mm   141,08 ft / 43,00 m   7,87 ft / 2,40 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   1,18" / 30 mm      1,18" / 30 mm
   2nd:   3,94" / 100 mm   1,18" / 30 mm      1,18" / 30 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 17 000 shp / 12 682 Kw = 24,16 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 398 tons

Complement:
   224 - 292

Cost:
   £1,170 million / $4,680 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 414 tons, 12,0 %
      - Guns: 414 tons, 12,0 %
   Armour: 917 tons, 26,6 %
      - Belts: 450 tons, 13,1 %
      - Armament: 73 tons, 2,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 374 tons, 10,9 %
      - Conning Tower: 19 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 537 tons, 15,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 040 tons, 30,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 443 tons, 12,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 92 tons, 2,7 %
      - Hull above water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 44 tons
      - Above deck: 38 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 698 lbs / 1 677 Kg = 17,5 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 2,1 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 14,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,506
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,27 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  12,47 ft / 3,80 m,  12,14 ft / 3,70 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  12,14 ft / 3,70 m,  12,14 ft / 3,70 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,48 ft / 4,11 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 339 Square feet or 1 239 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 68 lbs/sq ft or 330 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,72
      - Longitudinal: 1,09
      - Overall: 0,75
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

38t for top mast rangefinder
16t for 2x2TTx533HW
10t for climatisation
18t reserved for new material, armament...



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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

TacCovert4

I mean, the lack of speed is a big limiter.  But she's got the armor of ships twice her size.
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Jefgte

#98
QuoteI mean, the lack of speed is a big limiter.  But she's got the armor of ships twice her size.

She's a 3000 t gunboat, not a scout cruiser. The job is to work with other Colonial 24kts AGBs and BBs. She is able of repelling a cruiser or destroyers.
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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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Jefgte

Heavier and more powerful but still for the same job.

CAGB7000, Byzantine Empire Colonial Armored Gunboat laid down 1927

Displacement:
   7 000 t light; 7 438 t standard; 7 802 t normal; 8 093 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,34 ft / 406,82 ft) x 65,62 ft x (18,60 / 19,15 ft)
   (124,77 m / 124,00 m) x 20,00 m  x (5,67 / 5,84 m)

Armament:
      6 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 50,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3 662 lbs / 1 661 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,30" / 160 mm   275,59 ft / 84,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   1,38" / 35 mm   127,95 ft / 39,00 m   9,02 ft / 2,75 m
     3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3,54" / 90 mm   275,59 ft / 84,00 m   9,19 ft / 2,80 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,57" / 40 mm   275,59 ft / 84,00 m   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 52,49 ft / 16,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   2,36" / 60 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
   Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 30 000 shp / 22 380 Kw = 24,19 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 656 tons

Complement:
   414 - 539

Cost:
   £2,673 million / $10,693 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 055 tons, 13,5 %
      - Guns: 1 055 tons, 13,5 %
   Armour: 2 630 tons, 33,7 %
      - Belts: 1 186 tons, 15,2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 263 tons, 3,4 %
      - Armament: 322 tons, 4,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 758 tons, 9,7 %
      - Conning Towers: 100 tons, 1,3 %
   Machinery: 947 tons, 12,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 082 tons, 26,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 802 tons, 10,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 286 tons, 3,7 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull above water: 40 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 76 tons
      - Above deck: 130 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 340 lbs / 4 236 Kg = 18,7 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
   Metacentric height 3,1 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 15,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,554
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,20 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  23,95 ft / 7,30 m,  20,01 ft / 6,10 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  20,01 ft / 6,10 m,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,50 %,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Average freeboard:      17,15 ft / 5,23 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 142,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 630 Square feet or 1 731 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 541 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,82
      - Longitudinal: 2,05
      - Overall: 0,90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Long Range Marconi
105t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
40t for climatisation
40t for additionnal pumps
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
56t reserved


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#100
Just to test if I could built a Panzerschiff with 8000t

Light Armored Cruiser, Byzantine Empire 8000t Panzerschiff laid down 1927

Displacement:
   8 000 t light; 8 436 t standard; 8 915 t normal; 9 299 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (567,89 ft / 564,30 ft) x 65,62 ft x (17,41 / 17,96 ft)
   (173,09 m / 172,00 m) x 20,00 m  x (5,31 / 5,48 m)

Armament:
      6 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 50,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 63,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3 462 lbs / 1 570 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   367,45 ft / 112,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   1,38" / 35 mm   111,55 ft / 34,00 m   7,87 ft / 2,40 m
     85,30 ft / 26,00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3,54" / 90 mm   367,45 ft / 112,00 m   9,19 ft / 2,80 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,51" / 140 mm   2,36" / 60 mm      3,94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 41 460 shp / 30 929 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 863 tons

Complement:
   458 - 596

Cost:
   £2,899 million / $11,596 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 988 tons, 11,1 %
      - Guns: 988 tons, 11,1 %
   Armour: 2 349 tons, 26,3 %
      - Belts: 1 135 tons, 12,7 %
      - Armament: 261 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 844 tons, 9,5 %
      - Conning Towers: 109 tons, 1,2 %
   Machinery: 1 309 tons, 14,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 066 tons, 34,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 915 tons, 10,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 288 tons, 3,2 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull above water: 40 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 84 tons
      - Above deck: 124 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 626 lbs / 4 820 Kg = 21,3 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 1,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
   Metacentric height 3,1 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 15,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,484 / 0,489
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,76 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  20,34 ft / 6,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,50 %,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m,  13,78 ft / 4,20 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,12 ft / 4,61 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 24 318 Square feet or 2 259 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 526 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,88
      - Longitudinal: 1,02
      - Overall: 0,90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Long Range Marconi
99t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
40t for climatisation
40t for additionnal pumps
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
60t reserved

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#101
Update 3000t Colonial Gun Boat

Mustha-Mesie, Byzantine Empire Colonial Armored Gun Boat laid down 1928

Displacement:
   3 000 t light; 3 219 t standard; 3 408 t normal; 3 560 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,36 ft / 406,82 ft) x 49,21 ft x (11,92 / 12,31 ft)
   (124,77 m / 124,00 m) x 15,00 m  x (3,63 / 3,75 m)

Armament:
      6 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1928 Model
     3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1928 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 617 lbs / 733 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   265,75 ft / 81,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   1,18" / 30 mm   141,08 ft / 43,00 m   9,19 ft / 2,80 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   1,18" / 30 mm      1,97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 16 500 shp / 12 309 Kw = 24,01 kts
   Range 4 300nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 341 tons

Complement:
   222 - 289

Cost:
   £1,288 million / $5,152 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 453 tons, 13,3 %
      - Guns: 453 tons, 13,3 %
   Armour: 909 tons, 26,7 %
      - Belts: 487 tons, 14,3 %
      - Armament: 62 tons, 1,8 %
      - Armour Deck: 334 tons, 9,8 %
      - Conning Towers: 25 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 506 tons, 14,8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 026 tons, 30,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 408 tons, 12,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 107 tons, 3,1 %
      - Hull below water: 15 tons
      - Hull above water: 15 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 32 tons
      - Above deck: 45 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 439 lbs / 1 560 Kg = 16,3 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
   Metacentric height 2,1 ft / 0,6 m
   Roll period: 14,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,76
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,505
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,27 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  12,14 ft / 3,70 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  12,14 ft / 3,70 m,  11,81 ft / 3,60 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  11,81 ft / 3,60 m,  12,14 ft / 3,70 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,20 ft / 4,02 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 339 Square feet or 1 239 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 68 lbs/sq ft or 332 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,72
      - Longitudinal: 1,03
      - Overall: 0,75
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

45t for top mast rangefinder
15t for climatisation
15t for Additionnal pumps
16t for 2x2TTx533 HW
16t reserved for new material, armament...

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#102
Like much navies, It's time for Byzance to have fast Battleships.

36150t or 43800t ?

BC7, Byzantine Empire BC7 laid down 1927

Displacement:
   36 150 t light; 38 035 t standard; 40 743 t normal; 42 910 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (738,03 ft / 735,56 ft) x 108,27 ft x (30,40 / 31,72 ft)
   (224,95 m / 224,20 m) x 33,00 m  x (9,27 / 9,67 m)

Armament:
      9 - 15,00" / 381 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 920,01lbs / 870,90kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1927 Model
     3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 18 211 lbs / 8 260 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   479,00 ft / 146,00 m   11,81 ft / 3,60 m
   Ends:   3,94" / 100 mm   255,91 ft / 78,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   479,00 ft / 146,00 m   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1,97" / 50 mm   479,00 ft / 146,00 m   26,25 ft / 8,00 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 78,74 ft / 24,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   4,72" / 120 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,79" / 20 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 4,72" / 120 mm
   Forecastle: 1,97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 140 000 shp / 104 440 Kw = 29,18 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 875 tons

Complement:
   1 433 - 1 864

Cost:
   £11,853 million / $47,413 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 057 tons, 7,5 %
      - Guns: 3 057 tons, 7,5 %
   Armour: 12 997 tons, 31,9 %
      - Belts: 4 702 tons, 11,5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 916 tons, 2,2 %
      - Armament: 2 437 tons, 6,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 4 450 tons, 10,9 %
      - Conning Towers: 492 tons, 1,2 %
   Machinery: 4 419 tons, 10,8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 14 691 tons, 36,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 593 tons, 11,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 986 tons, 2,4 %
      - Hull below water: 175 tons
      - Hull above water: 175 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 280 tons
      - Above deck: 356 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     58 627 lbs / 26 593 Kg = 34,7 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 9,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,07
   Metacentric height 6,5 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 17,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,589 / 0,595
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,79 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27,12 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  28,22 ft / 8,60 m,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m,  21,33 ft / 6,50 m
      - Aft deck:   32,00 %,  21,33 ft / 6,50 m,  21,00 ft / 6,40 m
      - Quarter deck:   18,00 %,  21,00 ft / 6,40 m,  21,00 ft / 6,40 m
      - Average freeboard:      22,65 ft / 6,90 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 57 649 Square feet or 5 356 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 205 lbs/sq ft or 1 002 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,39
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

306t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
175t for climatisation
175t for extra pumps installation
100t for Admiral staff
180t reserved
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Or this one with 4T3x381

BC7, Byzantine Empire BC7 laid down 1927

Displacement:
   43 800 t light; 46 306 t standard; 49 405 t normal; 51 884 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (806,30 ft / 803,81 ft) x 114,83 ft x (30,41 / 31,68 ft)
   (245,76 m / 245,00 m) x 35,00 m  x (9,27 / 9,66 m)

Armament:
      12 - 15,00" / 381 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 920,01lbs / 870,90kg shells, 110 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 23 971 lbs / 10 873 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   524,93 ft / 160,00 m   11,81 ft / 3,60 m
   Ends:   3,94" / 100 mm   278,87 ft / 85,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   524,93 ft / 160,00 m   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1,97" / 50 mm   524,93 ft / 160,00 m   27,89 ft / 8,50 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 91,86 ft / 28,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   4,72" / 120 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   0,79" / 20 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 4,72" / 120 mm
   Forecastle: 1,97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 155 000 shp / 115 630 Kw = 29,21 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5 578 tons

Complement:
   1 656 - 2 153

Cost:
   £14,621 million / $58,486 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 986 tons, 8,1 %
      - Guns: 3 986 tons, 8,1 %
   Armour: 15 436 tons, 31,2 %
      - Belts: 5 142 tons, 10,4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 066 tons, 2,2 %
      - Armament: 3 378 tons, 6,8 %
      - Armour Deck: 5 289 tons, 10,7 %
      - Conning Towers: 560 tons, 1,1 %
   Machinery: 4 893 tons, 9,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18 356 tons, 37,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 605 tons, 11,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1 130 tons, 2,3 %
      - Hull below water: 200 tons
      - Hull above water: 200 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 280 tons
      - Above deck: 450 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     71 004 lbs / 32 207 Kg = 42,1 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 11,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
   Metacentric height 6,9 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 18,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,79
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,616 / 0,621
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 28,35 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  28,54 ft / 8,70 m,  24,93 ft / 7,60 m
      - Forward deck:   31,00 %,  24,93 ft / 7,60 m,  21,65 ft / 6,60 m
      - Aft deck:   31,00 %,  21,65 ft / 6,60 m,  21,65 ft / 6,60 m
      - Quarter deck:   18,00 %,  21,65 ft / 6,60 m,  21,65 ft / 6,60 m
      - Average freeboard:      23,11 ft / 7,04 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 176,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 68 521 Square feet or 6 366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 222 lbs/sq ft or 1 082 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,20
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

400t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
200t for climatisation
200t for extra pumps installation
100t for Admiral staff
180t reserved
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor


Jefgte

#104
SD14, Byzantine Empire Super Destroyer laid down 1927

Displacement:
   2 330 t light; 2 446 t standard; 2 822 t normal; 3 123 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (425,65 ft / 423,23 ft) x 42,32 ft x (13,79 / 14,74 ft)
   (129,74 m / 129,00 m) x 12,90 m  x (4,20 / 4,49 m)

Armament:
      4 - 5,50" / 140 mm 50,0 cal guns - 81,99lbs / 37,19kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,50lbs / 5,67kg shells, 300 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,00lbs / 1,36kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 366 lbs / 166 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 42 400 shp / 31 630 Kw = 32,02 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 677 tons

Complement:
   193 - 251

Cost:
   £1,038 million / $4,152 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 77 tons, 2,7 %
      - Guns: 77 tons, 2,7 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 1 306 tons, 46,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 840 tons, 29,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 492 tons, 17,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 101 tons, 3,6 %
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 33 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1 226 lbs / 556 Kg = 14,7 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30
   Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 11,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,414
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,57 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      14,49 ft / 4,42 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 158,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 11 026 Square feet or 1 024 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 49 lbs/sq ft or 240 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,71
      - Longitudinal: 1,23
      - Overall: 0,75
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Long range Marconi
8t for 1924 top mast rangefinder

24t for 2x3TTx533 HW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
5t for 50 DC
16t reserved...

8t for climatisation

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf