Mayan Storyline War

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I did at least pick a different shade of red to name the operation. Crimson Tide would have been a little to on point

[The Rock Doctor]

The poor dears.

[Jefgte]

I regret Rome's entry into the war against the Mayas.

In the Pacific, the overwhelming superiority of the Japanese & Aztec Fleets forced the Mayan Fleet to seek refuge in its base.

In the Caribbean, the Japanese & Aztec Fleets vs the Mayan Fleet hinted at possible "interesting" battles.

The Roman, Japanese & Aztec Fleets also give overwhelming superiority and force the Mayan Fleet to seek refuge in their bases to avoid total destruction.

[Desertfox]

The Mayan Pacific Fleet had a chance at the Japanese Central American Fleet and instead ran away an hid... are they going to come out and play?

[Jefgte]

The Mayan Pacific Fleet had a chance at the Japanese Central American Fleet and instead ran away an hid... are they going to come out and play?

The ran away into the night was planned to escape the many Japanese torpedo boats.
The plan didn't work...

[TacCovert4]

The Mayan Pacific Fleet had a chance at the Japanese Central American Fleet and instead ran away an hid... are they going to come out and play?

The ran away into the night was planned to escape the many Japanese torpedo boats.
The plan didn't work...

Mayans are Russians confirmed.  Do you see torpedo boats?

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I think that statement assumes a lot about the expected coordination between Rome and other powers fighting the Mayans

[Kaiser Kirk]

BTW, normally I send out questions, or decision points Friday.
I work a 4x10hr schedule so that's my RDO,
but this week I'm working Friday so I can take Monday off,
so things will likely be a day behind schedule.

I do find myself wishing I could suddenly make the Golden Horde
start saber rattling while several neighbors are distracted.

[Jefgte]

Mayans are Russians confirmed.  Do you see torpedo boats?

12 Mayans vs 50/60 Japs.

[Kaiser Kirk]

It's been interesting because I have gotten from both sides orders of : "I'll do this, and when they respond this way, I'll do that"...
which hinge on the opponent doing what you want.

I've also seen orders of basically 'I'll engage, but only under these specific conditions'... which don't come to pass.

Scale also comes into play. It can take days or weeks for forces to move from one area to another, so trying to 'catch' something
is difficult.  Then, scouting factors in to.  And perhaps I'm misunderstanding intents here, but folks seem to be using cruisers more as fire support.
Not as wide ranging independent units far out . There's a limited number of cruisers, and they are tied to heavier ships, not sent out on their own missions that much.
Subs get used, but they really can't "see" far from their elevation.
The main fleets both have float planes for search, but that has very definite limits in range, numbers, weather and time of day. 

Overall, I've asked for the orders to come as a goal but with options for possibilities, like "I want to do X, but IF Y happens THEN do Z, ELSE IF A happens do B.
But I don't get them that way, which is part of both the need to keep PM folks questions.
Also sometimes even when I specially ask what they want if situation X, OR situation Y happens I get an answer to just ...situation X.
So I do the best with what information I have by time I need to start processing the orders, only in critical situations will I
hold the turn waiting on an answer and I've had some additional orders sent to me way way to late to effect anything.
At least one of those, had I gotten it much earlier, *might* have led to a fleet battle, but I have doubts.
There's been some misses, that if one side knew X or didn't know Y, might have happened as well.

Ultimately, the command of the Pacific coast has allowed the defenders to move a substantial number of troops. 
The more ambiguous situation in the Caribbean has meant they do not try there.
The troop reinforcements, and the slowdown of the Mayan advance for 'supplies' have given them a chance.

The Mayans grabbed the NE province in the first month, and without other considerations could have just grabbed the Southern province in Month 2.
Instead they spent Months 2 and 3 bringing up supplies and improving transport routes to that border.  In month 3, 8 Mayan Legions were not in action.
In month 4, they made their major push. Month 5 will be the continuation and we'll see how it plays out.

[Jefgte]

...Overall, I've asked for the orders to come as a goal but with options for possibilities, like "I want to do X, but IF Y happens THEN do Z, ELSE IF A happens do B.
But I don't get them that way, which is part of both the need to keep PM folks questions.
Also sometimes even when I specially ask what they want if situation X, OR situation Y happens I get an answer to just ...situation X.
So I do the best with what information I have by time I need to start processing the orders, only in critical situations will I
hold the turn waiting on an answer and I've had some additional orders sent to me way way to late to effect anything.
At least one of those, had I gotten it much earlier, *might* have led to a fleet battle, but I have doubts.
There's been some misses, that if one side knew X or didn't know Y, might have happened as well...

It reminds me of Jellicoe at Jutland:

Late, imprecise or incorrect informations.

He deployed the BBs squadrons so that the battle could take place but the TBs changed the situation...

"You are the only one who can lose the war in a day".

[Desertfox]

I just dont have enough cruisers, its my weak area. Not that it matters now, since the Mayan Pacific Fleet is just sitting in port... come out and play!

[The Rock Doctor]

Nobody has enough cruisers.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Actually Rocky, you have the most vessels designed to 'Cruiser Architecture'...by far. Like maybe more than everyone else combined.

When I look at just combat hulls it gets more reasonable.

Byzantine and Parthia have the fewest combat cruisers, though Parthia has the ancient armored sailing frigates that are intended to need a small cruiser to counter.
Interestingly, while Parthia doesn't have quite as many as many, they are a little bit the largest average cruisers.

The Wilno Union has the next fewest combat cruisers, but the most if you count all the icebreakers and others.

The Aztec and Japan are tied at 39 hulls, but the average hull size for both is small.

Rome is next, though that was an older turn. They may have bumped up.

Then Iberia and the Norse both have larger cruiser fleets with a good average size.

	# hulls	tonnage	tonnage/hull
Byzantine	26	127520	4905
Parthia-combatants	36	182942	5082
Union, combatants	37	138914	3754
Aztec	39	43754	1122
Japan	39	99280	2546
Rome	41	193937	4730
Iberia	46	226006	4913
Norse	48	210408	4384
Parthia	51	233730	4583
Union	340	243065	715

[The Rock Doctor]

Mister President, we cannot allow a cruiser gap!