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BB1, Mayas Republic Merida laid down 1911

Displacement:
   11 450 t light; 12 059 t standard; 12 704 t normal; 13 220 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (488,85 ft / 488,85 ft) x 78,74 ft x (20,81 / 21,48 ft)
   (149,00 m / 149,00 m) x 24,00 m  x (6,34 / 6,55 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,07lbs / 396,02kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,07lbs / 396,02kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1911 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,18lbs / 24,12kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 5 877 lbs / 2 666 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   318,24 ft / 97,00 m   10,50 ft / 3,20 m
   Ends:   3,54" / 90 mm   170,60 ft / 52,00 m   6,56 ft / 2,00 m
   Upper:   3,54" / 90 mm   318,24 ft / 97,00 m   8,20 ft / 2,50 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   2,76" / 70 mm      9,84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   9,84" / 250 mm   2,76" / 70 mm      9,06" / 230 mm
   3rd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,56" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9,06" / 230 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 25 952 shp / 19 360 Kw = 22,00 kts
   Range 4 800nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 161 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   597 - 777

Cost:
   £1,081 million / $4,324 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 043 tons, 8,2 %
      - Guns: 1 043 tons, 8,2 %
   Armour: 4 247 tons, 33,4 %
      - Belts: 2 268 tons, 17,9 %
      - Armament: 677 tons, 5,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 151 tons, 9,1 %
      - Conning Towers: 152 tons, 1,2 %
   Machinery: 1 147 tons, 9,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 534 tons, 35,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 254 tons, 9,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 479 tons, 3,8 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - Hull above water: 320 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 46 tons
      - Above deck: 105 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17 740 lbs / 8 047 Kg = 20,5 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16
   Metacentric height 4,6 ft / 1,4 m
   Roll period: 15,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,555 / 0,560
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,21 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,74 ft / 4,19 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 26 989 Square feet or 2 507 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 686 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,42
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

8t for 1 x bow TT x 18'' with 4T
50t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for additionnal air equipement
105t for top fire control
220t for Torpedo net - 110m each side
60t reserved
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#16
T4, Mayas Republic T4-500t laid down 1904

50 in the Building Plan

Displacement:
   500 t light; 518 t standard; 573 t normal; 617 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (244,42 ft / 244,42 ft) x 24,61 ft x (8,34 / 8,76 ft)
   (74,50 m / 74,50 m) x 7,50 m  x (2,54 / 2,67 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,35lbs / 1,52kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 99 lbs / 45 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9 000 ihp / 6 714 Kw = 26,27 kts
   Range 2 400nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 99 tons (90% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   58 - 76

Cost:
   £0,070 million / $0,278 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 18 tons, 3,2 %
      - Guns: 18 tons, 3,2 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0,4 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0,4 %
   Machinery: 337 tons, 58,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 127 tons, 22,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 73 tons, 12,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 2,8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 14 tons
      - Above deck: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     122 lbs / 55 Kg = 4,0 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,39
   Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 9,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,18
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,410
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,63 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25,00 %,  12,80 ft / 3,90 m,  11,48 ft / 3,50 m
      - Forward deck:   25,00 %,  8,76 ft / 2,67 m,  8,53 ft / 2,60 m
      - Aft deck:   25,00 %,  8,53 ft / 2,60 m,  8,53 ft / 2,60 m
      - Quarter deck:   25,00 %,  8,53 ft / 2,60 m,  8,53 ft / 2,60 m
      - Average freeboard:      9,43 ft / 2,87 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 197,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 104,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 702 Square feet or 344 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 21 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 102 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,24
      - Overall: 0,54
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

2t for fire control
4t for 2TTx450
10t reserved
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

TacCovert4

I approve of these.  They're basically counters to the Aztec DDs of about that same generation, mine being the Scimitar class and having just slightly more speed and 1 more gun but of a smaller caliber along with 2 extra torpedoes.  This particular ship makes perfect sense....and now the GTB-Z class makes a lot more sense as well as besides its duties as a torpedo boat in modern warfare, it would be able to hunt and kill these ubiquitous older Mayan destroyers, something that the RAN would plan for as a matter of course.
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

Jefgte

#18
QuoteI approve of these.  They're basically counters to the Aztec DDs of about that same generation, mine being the Scimitar class and having just slightly more speed and 1 more gun but of a smaller caliber along with 2 extra torpedoes.  This particular ship makes perfect sense....and now the GTB-Z class makes a lot more sense as well as besides its duties as a torpedo boat in modern warfare, it would be able to hunt and kill these ubiquitous older Mayan destroyers, something that the RAN would plan for as a matter of course.

I try to build a coherent and dissuasive fleet with 250,000t and simplified technos. Our "Great Kaiser" defined the Aztecs and Wilno as hostile powers for Mayas.

=>1911 - T5 class - 750t DD are comming.   ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

T5, Mayas Republic T5-750t laid down 1911

30 in the Building Plan

Displacement:
   750 t light; 774 t standard; 838 t normal; 889 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (295,28 ft / 295,28 ft) x 29,53 ft x (8,41 / 8,74 ft)
   (90,00 m / 90,00 m) x 9,00 m  x (2,56 / 2,66 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,35lbs / 1,52kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 99 lbs / 45 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 16 000 ihp / 11 936 Kw = 29,14 kts
   Range 2 400nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 115 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   77 - 101

Cost:
   £0,097 million / $0,390 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 18 tons, 2,2 %
      - Guns: 18 tons, 2,2 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0,3 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0,3 %
   Machinery: 473 tons, 56,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 223 tons, 26,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 88 tons, 10,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 33 tons, 3,9 %
      - On freeboard deck: 30 tons
      - Above deck: 3 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     225 lbs / 102 Kg = 7,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,29
   Metacentric height 1,3 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 11,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,408
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17,18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Forward deck:   32,00 %,  13,12 ft / 4,00 m,  10,83 ft / 3,30 m
      - Aft deck:   32,00 %,  10,83 ft / 3,30 m,  10,17 ft / 3,10 m
      - Quarter deck:   18,00 %,  10,17 ft / 3,10 m,  10,17 ft / 3,10 m
      - Average freeboard:      11,53 ft / 3,51 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 188,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 148,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 367 Square feet or 499 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 38 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 122 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,31
      - Overall: 0,55
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

2t for fire control
18t for 2 x 3TT x 533
12t for 12 minen or reserved
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

TacCovert4

Ouch.....70 Destroyers.  Yeah, the RAN is a bit 'lacking' in destroyers, even if I'm building more powerful ones overall.
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

Jefgte

#21
PB1, Mayas Republic PB1 - 875t laid down 1904

20 PB1 in the Building Plan
(Patrol Boat for costal work & harbors protection)

Displacement:
   875 t light; 898 t standard; 952 t normal; 995 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (275,59 ft / 275,59 ft) x 29,53 ft x (8,19 / 8,47 ft)
   (84,00 m / 84,00 m) x 9,00 m  x (2,50 / 2,58 m)

Armament:
      2 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 68 lbs / 31 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 21,97 kts
   Range 1 650nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 97 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   85 - 111

Cost:
   £0,107 million / $0,429 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 13 tons, 1,3 %
      - Guns: 13 tons, 1,3 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 0,5 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0,5 %
   Machinery: 524 tons, 55,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 328 tons, 34,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 77 tons, 8,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 0,6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 4 tons
      - Above deck: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     439 lbs / 199 Kg = 14,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,49
   Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m
   Roll period: 9,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,06
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,505
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16,60 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25,00 %,  11,81 ft / 3,60 m,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Forward deck:   25,00 %,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m
      - Aft deck:   25,00 %,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m
      - Quarter deck:   25,00 %,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m,  8,86 ft / 2,70 m
      - Average freeboard:      9,42 ft / 2,87 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 181,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 422 Square feet or 504 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 53 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 198 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,21
      - Overall: 1,00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

4t for 2 TT x 450
2t for fire control

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

eltf177

Does PB-1 have two or three 3.94-inch guns?

Jefgte

Quote
Does PB-1 have two or three 3.94-inch guns?

Oups...

2x100mm
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#24
875t is too heavy for a PB ship.
I use T4 - 500t hull -22kts to have "multi role" ship

PB2, Mayas Republic PB2-500t laid down 1904

43 in the Building Plan (patrols + minelayer + minesweeper + cargo+ transport)

Displacement:
   500 t light; 523 t standard; 578 t normal; 623 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (244,42 ft / 244,42 ft) x 24,61 ft x (8,42 / 8,83 ft)
   (74,50 m / 74,50 m) x 7,50 m  x (2,57 / 2,69 m)

Armament:
      3 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,35lbs / 1,52kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 166 lbs / 75 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4 500 ihp / 3 357 Kw = 22,16 kts
   Range 2 400nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 100 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   58 - 76

Cost:
   £0,066 million / $0,266 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 30 tons, 5,1 %
      - Guns: 30 tons, 5,1 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0,4 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0,4 %
   Machinery: 292 tons, 50,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 117 tons, 20,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 78 tons, 13,5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 59 tons, 10,2 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Hull above water: 16 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 24 tons
      - Above deck: 3 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     136 lbs / 62 Kg = 2,6 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26
   Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 10,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,49

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,410
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,63 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25,00 %,  12,71 ft / 3,88 m,  11,40 ft / 3,48 m
      - Forward deck:   25,00 %,  8,68 ft / 2,65 m,  8,45 ft / 2,58 m
      - Aft deck:   25,00 %,  8,45 ft / 2,58 m,  8,45 ft / 2,58 m
      - Quarter deck:   25,00 %,  8,45 ft / 2,58 m,  8,45 ft / 2,58 m
      - Average freeboard:      9,35 ft / 2,85 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 182,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 702 Square feet or 344 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 40 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 101 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,18
      - Overall: 0,55
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

2t for fire control
4t for 2TTx450
52t reserved for different works:
- 40t for minelayer
- 10t for minesweeper
- 5t  Hydrophonne + 3t for 30 x 90kg DC
- new armement
- 40t for cargo
- 40t for troops
- ...
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#25
Not 43 PB but...55 with different version.
6 x PB2C - Cruiser version
23 x PB2- Patrols version
10 x PB2ML - Minelayer version
16 x PB2MS - Minesweeper version


PB2C50019063x140+2x100+2TTx450T1024kts2400nm-10kts6
PB250019063x100+2x47+2TTx450T1022kts2400nm-10kts23
PB2ML50019063x100+2x47+2TTx450+40minenT1022kts2400nm-10kts10
PB2MS50019063x100+2x47+2TTx450T1022kts2400nm-10kts16

QuoteOuch.....70 Destroyers...

30x750t DD + 50x500t DD => 80 DD
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

2000t AUX, Mayas Republic 2000t AUX laid down 1910

6 ships in the Building Plan

Displacement:
   2 000 t light; 2 056 t standard; 2 309 t normal; 2 511 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (321,52 ft / 321,52 ft) x 52,49 ft x (7,98 / 8,55 ft)
   (98,00 m / 98,00 m) x 16,00 m  x (2,43 / 2,61 m)

Armament:
      4 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 123 lbs / 56 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 631 ihp / 1 963 Kw = 15,00 kts
   Range 4 800nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 454 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   166 - 216

Cost:
   £0,100 million / $0,401 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 19 tons, 0,8 %
      - Guns: 19 tons, 0,8 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 174 tons, 7,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 903 tons, 39,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 309 tons, 13,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 900 tons, 39,0 %
      - Hull below water: 300 tons
      - Hull above water: 400 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 481 lbs / 3 393 Kg = 245,2 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,49
   Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,1 m
   Roll period: 11,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 91 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,83

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,609
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,13 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17,93 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  18,70 ft / 5,70 m,  18,70 ft / 5,70 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,55 ft / 4,74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 61,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 208,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 12 344 Square feet or 1 147 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 177 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 56 lbs/sq ft or 272 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,93
      - Longitudinal: 1,80
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight; 900t
700t of coal
100t of oil
100t of different store

Mercantile cost = 0.5BP & $
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Here is the cruiser version of the 500t Patrol Boat - PB2

PB2C, Mayas Republic PB2C-500t laid down 1904

6 ships in the Building Plan

Displacement:
   500 t light; 534 t standard; 590 t normal; 635 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (244,42 ft / 244,42 ft) x 24,61 ft x (8,59 / 9,01 ft)
   (74,50 m / 74,50 m) x 7,50 m  x (2,62 / 2,75 m)

Armament:
      3 - 5,51" / 140 mm 45,0 cal guns - 84,44lbs / 38,30kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 315 lbs / 143 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 400 ihp / 4 775 Kw = 24,09 kts
   Range 2 400nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 101 tons (90% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   59 - 77

Cost:
   £0,077 million / $0,307 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 55 tons, 9,3 %
      - Guns: 55 tons, 9,3 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 0,8 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0,8 %
   Machinery: 315 tons, 53,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 114 tons, 19,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 90 tons, 15,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 11 tons, 1,9 %
      - On freeboard deck: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 6 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     118 lbs / 54 Kg = 1,4 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32
   Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 10,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,410
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,63 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25,00 %,  12,55 ft / 3,83 m,  11,24 ft / 3,43 m
      - Forward deck:   25,00 %,  8,51 ft / 2,60 m,  8,28 ft / 2,53 m
      - Aft deck:   25,00 %,  8,28 ft / 2,53 m,  8,28 ft / 2,53 m
      - Quarter deck:   25,00 %,  8,28 ft / 2,53 m,  8,28 ft / 2,53 m
      - Average freeboard:      9,18 ft / 2,80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 197,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 702 Square feet or 344 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 29 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 112 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,20
      - Overall: 0,54
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

6t for fire control
4t for 2TTx450
1t reserved
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

And the final Plan of Mayas'Fleet

;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: TacCovert4 on May 05, 2021, 06:33:45 AM
Ouch.....70 Destroyers.  Yeah, the RAN is a bit 'lacking' in destroyers, even if I'm building more powerful ones overall.

The actual number of a NPC vessels in any class will be determined at the time of any conflict.
At that time the total tonnage available to the NPC will be determined by a ratio versus the average tonnage of PC navies.
The amount of tonnage devoted to various architectures will vary on the national character of that nation.

I gave Jefgte a reference point for tonnage, so and the Mayans do like destroyer sized vessels, so his number may be appropriate.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest