Design competition for the Inca Empire

[eltf177]

But how many and where carried?

[Desertfox]

It can either be two rotating twins on centerline or four fixed tubes.

[Kaiser Kirk]

The 365mm armed Mallet seems the best option.   But it's surprising there isn't a 6 gunned 305mm version with the same hull.

But yes, If the Partians wish to lay down such a vessel in 1913 and one in 1914, a suitable trade can be arranged.

The Parthians will explain that the goal with the 305/41 version was to use Incan weapons, for which they were only told of single and twin options.
The triple turret is one the Parthians developed two separate designs of, and then tested, before choosing the better for their Tiamat class.
Developing a similar turret for the Incan gun would take 18 months.

The Parthians have adequate dock space and are willing to negotiate good terms.

[Kaiser Kirk]

The Incan list included river gunboats.

The Parthians have been examining gunboats for both Riverine forces in various territorial rivers, and small cruisers which could berth on a river or shallow area, and sortie into the nearby seas.
The two take very different requirements, and the Parthians are unsure which extreme you are interested in.

We have our old Dragonfly gunboats, which are small river armored casement gunboats.
We have examined updating the old design, which we will share.
The armament is Parthian, fitting Incan weapons it would appear would need widen the hull by a meter, increasing the displacement to 280-300t.

For our purposes, we expect our gunboats to be far from base, so we provide non-oil fired boilers as well.

Dragonfly II, Parthian Rivirine Gunboat laid down 1894 (Engine 1913)

Displacement:
   250 t light; 270 t standard; 279 t normal; 286 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (161.74 ft / 157.48 ft) x 26.25 ft x (4.00 / 4.09 ft)
   (49.30 m / 48.00 m) x 8.00 m  x (1.22 / 1.25 m)

Armament:
      1 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal gun - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1909 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 - 4.65" / 118 mm 20.0 cal gun - 44.09lbs / 20.00kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1889 Model
     1 x Single mount on sides forward
      8 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 74.0 cal guns - 0.11lbs / 0.05kg shells, 5,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1886 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 1.77" / 45.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 2.87lbs / 1.30kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides forward
      Weight of broadside 81 lbs / 37 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm     62.99 ft / 19.20 m   6.23 ft / 1.90 m
   Ends:   0.59" / 15 mm     94.46 ft / 28.79 m   6.23 ft / 1.90 m
   Upper:   0.59" / 15 mm     62.99 ft / 19.20 m   9.19 ft / 2.80 m
     Main Belt covers 62 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.59" / 15 mm   0.20" / 5 mm            -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm   0.20" / 5 mm            -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 0.39" / 10 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.20" / 5 mm  Quarter deck: 0.20" / 5 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 0.79" / 20 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 89 ihp / 66 Kw = 8.00 kts
   Range 2,016nm at 6.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 16 tons (55% coal)

Complement:
   33 - 44

Cost:
   £0.013 million / $0.051 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 11 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 73 tons, 26.2 %
      - Belts: 46 tons, 16.3 %
      - Armament: 9 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 18 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 6 tons, 2.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 153 tons, 54.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 29 tons, 10.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7 tons, 2.5 %
      - Hull below water: 2 tons
      - Hull void weights: 1 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 3 tons
      - Above deck: 1 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,277 lbs / 1,486 Kg = 147.3 x 3.5 " / 90 mm shells or 2.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 10.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.26
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.37

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.590 / 0.593
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 23 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   30.00 %,  4.59 ft / 1.40 m,  4.59 ft / 1.40 m
      - Forward deck:   17.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Aft deck:   23.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Quarter deck:   30.00 %,  4.59 ft / 1.40 m,  4.59 ft / 1.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 24.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 221.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,995 Square feet or 278 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 229 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 195 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

The original Dragonfly class are Parthian vessels for riverine and lake use.

They are essentially center casement armor clads with heavier deck guns at both ends.
The raised center casement serves as an amored deckhouse and 2nd deck, considerably boosting habitable volume.


The forward 90mm is a conventional naval rifle.
The 118L20 is a howitzer. 
The twin 15mm guns are Gardner handcranked machine guns on the roof.
10mm gunshields are provided. 
The four 45mm QF are mounted at the corners of the casement.  This can fire fore/aft, or engage targets on the beam. While lacking the punch of the main guns, they allow suppressive fire totally under armor, with a small HE charge in the shell.

The raised amidships superstructure is covered by 15mm armor and slanted back at 25 degrees (for a Cos25 O/H = 2.8m), this is  expected to defeat all small arms.

The main belt covers from +1.4 to -0.5m with 20mm armor, protecting the engines and magazines.  The ends are more lightly protected.

An armored pilot house also is the site of the rangefinder.


Fuel is a mix of Coal/wood w/ oil spray burning, and Oil burning
This allows the vessel to steam on local sources.

Range is for 14 days.

Miscellaneous weights :
3t - Extra ventilation
2t - Turbo-electric drive
1t - rangefinder and plotting tables.
1t - construction reserve.

Decks :
+3.9 Casement
+1.4  1st Deck
-1.15   Engineering deck.

Dolphin II

The larger of the two gunboats is a design we are considering for operations  in large rivers, shallow near shore waters, and adjacent sea areas. This would be a replacement for our Dolphin class.

Dolphin II, Parthia Gunboat laid down 1913

Displacement:
   2,488 t light; 2,619 t standard; 2,738 t normal; 2,833 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (266.95 ft / 262.47 ft) x 52.49 ft x (13.12 / 13.48 ft)
   (81.37 m / 80.00 m) x 16.00 m  x (4.00 / 4.11 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.50" / 165 mm 45.0 cal guns - 138.23lbs / 62.70kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 4.65" / 118 mm 20.0 cal guns - 44.60lbs / 20.23kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1889 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      2 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 23.55lbs / 10.68kg shells, 500 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      8 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 74.0 cal guns - 0.12lbs / 0.05kg shells, 5,500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides forward
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 414 lbs / 188 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   170.60 ft / 52.00 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   0.98" / 25 mm     91.83 ft / 27.99 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Upper:   2.56" / 65 mm   170.60 ft / 52.00 m   8.53 ft / 2.60 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      0.31" / 8 mm   170.60 ft / 52.00 m   13.02 ft / 3.97 m

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -
   3rd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.31" / 8 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 1.57" / 40 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 6,104 ihp / 4,553 Kw = 18.20 kts
   Range 4,600nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 214 tons (23% coal)

Complement:
   189 - 246

Cost:
   £0.188 million / $0.751 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 94 tons, 3.4 %
   Armour: 813 tons, 29.7 %
      - Belts: 499 tons, 18.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 26 tons, 0.9 %
      - Armament: 14 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 258 tons, 9.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 374 tons, 13.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 894 tons, 32.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 250 tons, 9.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 312 tons, 11.4 %
      - Hull below water: 92 tons
      - Hull void weights: 40 tons
      - Hull above water: 85 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 86 tons
      - Above deck: 9 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,364 lbs / 2,887 Kg = 46.4 x 6.5 " / 165 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.49
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 11.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.530 / 0.534
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.20 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -1.50 ft / -0.46 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.22 ft / 4.64 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 9,437 Square feet or 877 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 339 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 3.19
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Designed to be a riverine and littoral gunboat.
A pair of 165mm guns form the main battery.
Superimposed over that are a pair of 118mm howitzers
To allow ammunition supply while under sniper fire, hoists are fitted.

To fend off reconnaisance zeppelins two AA guns are fitted.
To deal with close in boarders, 4 'Gardner' handcranked MGs are fitted.
The guns are fitted with defenses ranging from proof against HE, to proof against rifles.

To allow the props to be closely regulated in speed, and have full reverse power, electric motors are fitted.

An 8mm interior bulkhead 1m from the hull is fitted and a a double bottom is fitted.
These are to limit flooding in event of grounding or collision in narrow river channels.

Engines are kept to the older reciprocating technology.
While not as reliable as turbines, they are more easily repaired in remote locations.

Likewise, as wartime may limit oil access, coal or wood are alternate fuel supplies.



Misc weight

Void
50t - Construction Reserve

Above deck
25 - LR radio
9 - 1910 FC (plotting tables to assist fire support)

On Deck
6 - Windcatcher evaporative cooling
80 - provisions for 2 x 40t troop carrying motor launches

Above Water

60t - Marines
20t - brig
25t - Fleet Supply for 2500tons (self).

Below Water
94- Turbogenerators

+4.60 15mm Weather deck
+2.00 25mm Armor deck, top main belt.
-0.50 1st Deck,
-1.00 bottom main belt.
-3.50 Engineering

[maddox]

Pity the Byzantine entry goes over the cap of 10Ktons.  (Yes i know, it's not in the specs from the idea, but it's a pet peeve of Sapa Inca), But it is an interesting ship.



The Japanese rotating cannon, can we arrange for an order of a 100? 
One thing tough, 280 shells ain't that impressive for an autocannon. The older 3 pounder fired 68 shells a minute. That's 4 minutes fire.    In bursts of 20 seconds, the ship would be dry after 1 action of 12 minutes.

The Parthian river boats will need some thoughts.

[eltf177]

It can either be two rotating twins on centerline or four fixed tubes.

Thanks.

[maddox]

3000 tons is about the maximum size that could operate on the upper Amazon from Iquitos. On the other hand, that would be a very very powerfull ship in her "home territory".
It's about the size I had in mind for the Loreseeker class cruisers.

But the 250 tons boats have a big advantage.  They are cheap.

I would replace the 90mm with a 100mm, or even more radical, replace evey gun, except the houwitser, with the Japanese 57mm rotators.   I think 6 of'm will make any rivership or attacking ground force think twice.
Especialy if the shells are incendiary....

[Desertfox]

The Japanese rotating cannon, can we arrange for an order of a 100?
One thing tough, 280 shells ain't that impressive for an autocannon. The older 3 pounder fired 68 shells a minute. That's 4 minutes fire.    In bursts of 20 seconds, the ship would be dry after 1 action of 12 minutes.

Order coming right up, do the Inca want the the 3 barrel one available now, or do they want to wait for the improved 5 barrel version?

The design can easily be modified for more shells if the Inca are interested in that particular TB.

As for the Thonburi-type coast defense cruiser, would the Inca perhaps be interested in a cheaper more coast defense focused version? Or perhaps a bigger more cruiser focused version?

[maddox]

Wavering between OOC and IC.

Sapa Inca specified the Shogunates 57mm.

The "infomertial" Sapa Inca did see is about a smaller sized gun, the 37mm, and is very impressed by the idea.

Explaining why the delivered 5 barreled 57mm's don't work as advertised.
Fun for me.  Yma will be displeased...

Desertfox already dodged that bullet by stating that the "big" 5 barreled version is experimental and that the 3 barelled version is ready for deployment. 

Of course, Sapa Inca nor the Lorekeepers know for sure this is true, and it could just be a big embezzlement sceme.

[Jefgte]

Proposed by Byzantine Empire, a 10 000t version of 1913 AC7 project
2 hulls could be laid down in Byzantine shipyards in 1913

Atahualpa, Inca Empire CBB laid down 1913

Displacement:
   10 000 t light; 10 570 t standard; 11 395 t normal; 12 055 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (488,00 ft / 488,00 ft) x 70,00 ft x (21,23 / 22,20 ft)
   (148,74 m / 148,74 m) x 21,34 m  x (6,47 / 6,77 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships alterned
      12 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 140 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5 505 lbs / 2 497 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,05" / 230 mm   331,00 ft / 100,89 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Ends:   3,55" / 90 mm   157,00 ft / 47,85 m   6,00 ft / 1,83 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   331,00 ft / 100,89 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,37" / 35 mm   338,00 ft / 103,02 m   19,00 ft / 5,79 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,00 ft / 18,29 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,0" / 280 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   2nd:   11,0" / 280 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   3rd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,57" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,37" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,37" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,02" / 280 mm, Aft 5,72" / 145 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 28 302 ihp / 21 113 Kw = 23,00 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 485 tons (80% coal)

Complement:
   550 - 716

Cost:
   £1,149 million / $4,597 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 120 tons, 9,8 %
      - Guns: 1 120 tons, 9,8 %
   Armour: 3 546 tons, 31,1 %
      - Belts: 1 544 tons, 13,5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 326 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 475 tons, 4,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 019 tons, 8,9 %
      - Conning Towers: 183 tons, 1,6 %
   Machinery: 1 831 tons, 16,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 231 tons, 28,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 395 tons, 12,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 272 tons, 2,4 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 79 tons
      - Above deck: 135 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12 109 lbs / 5 493 Kg = 24,2 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 2,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 14,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,97 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,09 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  18,00 ft / 5,49 m,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m,  12,10 ft / 3,69 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  12,10 ft / 3,69 m,  12,10 ft / 3,69 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  12,10 ft / 3,69 m,  12,10 ft / 3,69 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,09 ft / 3,99 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 23 840 Square feet or 2 215 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 127 lbs/sq ft or 621 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,29
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

8t for 4 subTT x 18''
50t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for additionnal air equipement
114t for top fire control
25t for Marconi

[Desertfox]

A 57mm Hotchkiss rotary armed gunboat design:

Export, Japan River Gunboat laid down 1913

Displacement:
   249 t light; 263 t standard; 278 t normal; 290 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (170.00 ft / 170.00 ft) x 27.00 ft x (4.00 / 4.13 ft)
   (51.82 m / 51.82 m) x 8.23 m  x (1.22 / 1.26 m)

Armament:
      6 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 5.70lbs / 2.58kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Triple mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 - 3.94" / 100 mm 25.0 cal gun - 27.71lbs / 12.57kg shells, 50 per gun
     Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1913 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      20 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     20 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 62 lbs / 28 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   0.50" / 13 mm   170.00 ft / 51.82 m   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
   Upper:   1.00" / 25 mm     40.00 ft / 12.19 m   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.00" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 186 ihp / 139 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 27 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   33 - 44

Cost:
   £0.016 million / $0.066 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 4.2 %
      - Guns: 12 tons, 4.2 %
   Armour: 42 tons, 15.3 %
      - Belts: 28 tons, 10.0 %
      - Armament: 14 tons, 5.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 12 tons, 4.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 123 tons, 44.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 29 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 21.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,303 lbs / 591 Kg = 230.6 x 2.2 " / 57 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 11.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.530 / 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13.04 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 29 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   50.00 %,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m
      - Aft deck:   5.00 %,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m
      - Average freeboard:      5.50 ft / 1.68 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 32.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,144 Square feet or 292 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 163 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 164 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.19
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

40t - 20 x marines w/30cal rifles
20t - 2 x 5t boats

1200 rounds of 57mm ammo per battery (400x3)

[Jefgte]

Revised Atahualpa with 3T2x305 - 21kts

Atahualpa, Inca Empire BB-6x305 laid down 1913

Displacement:
   9 995 t light; 10 618 t standard; 11 365 t normal; 11 963 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (488,00 ft / 488,00 ft) x 70,00 ft x (21,17 / 22,05 ft)
   (148,74 m / 148,74 m) x 21,34 m  x (6,45 / 6,72 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12,00" / 305 mm 41,0 cal guns - 832,64lbs / 377,68kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 12,00" / 305 mm 41,0 cal guns - 832,64lbs / 377,68kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mount, 1913 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      12 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,93lbs / 49,41kg shells, 140 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6 467 lbs / 2 933 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,05" / 230 mm   331,00 ft / 100,89 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Ends:   3,55" / 90 mm   157,00 ft / 47,85 m   6,00 ft / 1,83 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   331,00 ft / 100,89 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,37" / 35 mm   338,00 ft / 103,02 m   19,00 ft / 5,79 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,00 ft / 18,29 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,0" / 280 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   2nd:   11,0" / 280 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   3rd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,57" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,37" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,37" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,02" / 280 mm, Aft 5,72" / 145 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19 883 ihp / 14 833 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 345 tons (50% coal)

Complement:
   549 - 715

Cost:
   £1,112 million / $4,449 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 046 tons, 9,2 %
      - Guns: 1 046 tons, 9,2 %
   Armour: 3 594 tons, 31,6 %
      - Belts: 1 544 tons, 13,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 326 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 523 tons, 4,6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 019 tons, 9,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 182 tons, 1,6 %
   Machinery: 1 250 tons, 11,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 733 tons, 32,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 370 tons, 12,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 372 tons, 3,3 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 179 tons
      - Above deck: 135 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14 134 lbs / 6 411 Kg = 16,4 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 3,7 ft / 1,1 m
   Roll period: 15,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 91 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,79
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,37

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,97 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,09 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  18,00 ft / 5,49 m,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m,  13,00 ft / 3,96 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  13,00 ft / 3,96 m,  13,00 ft / 3,96 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  13,00 ft / 3,96 m,  13,00 ft / 3,96 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,94 ft / 4,25 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 23 840 Square feet or 2 215 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 137 lbs/sq ft or 669 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,49
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

8t for 4 subTT x 18''
50t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for additionnal air equipement
114t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
100t reserved

[Jefgte]

Revised Atahualpa with 5T2x240

Atahualpa, Inca Empire BB-10x240 laid down 1913

Displacement:
   9 960 t light; 10 574 t standard; 11 320 t normal; 11 917 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (490,00 ft / 490,00 ft) x 70,00 ft x (21,00 / 21,87 ft)
   (149,35 m / 149,35 m) x 21,34 m  x (6,40 / 6,67 m)

Armament:
      6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 41,0 cal guns - 486,01lbs / 220,45kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
      4 - 9,45" / 240 mm 41,0 cal guns - 486,01lbs / 220,45kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,93lbs / 49,41kg shells, 140 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6 331 lbs / 2 872 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,05" / 230 mm   331,00 ft / 100,89 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Ends:   3,55" / 90 mm   157,00 ft / 47,85 m   6,00 ft / 1,83 m
     2,00 ft / 0,61 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   331,00 ft / 100,89 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,37" / 35 mm   338,00 ft / 103,02 m   19,00 ft / 5,79 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,00 ft / 18,29 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,0" / 280 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   2nd:   11,0" / 280 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   3rd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,57" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,37" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,37" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,02" / 280 mm, Aft 5,72" / 145 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19 813 ihp / 14 780 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 343 tons (50% coal)

Complement:
   548 - 713

Cost:
   £1,025 million / $4,100 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 056 tons, 9,3 %
      - Guns: 1 056 tons, 9,3 %
   Armour: 3 705 tons, 32,7 %
      - Belts: 1 544 tons, 13,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 326 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 630 tons, 5,6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 024 tons, 9,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 182 tons, 1,6 %
   Machinery: 1 245 tons, 11,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 640 tons, 32,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 361 tons, 12,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 312 tons, 2,8 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 119 tons
      - Above deck: 135 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15 263 lbs / 6 923 Kg = 36,2 x 9,5 " / 240 mm shells or 3,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
   Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 14,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,28

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,14 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  20,00 ft / 6,10 m,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,24 ft / 4,04 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 23 938 Square feet or 2 224 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 138 lbs/sq ft or 676 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,37
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

8t for 4 subTT x 18''
50t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for additionnal air equipement
114t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
40t reserved

[Jefgte]

Final proposition from Byzantine Shipyards

Atahualpa, Inca Empire BB-10x240 laid down 1913

Displacement:
   10 000 t light; 10 588 t standard; 11 334 t normal; 11 932 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (490,00 ft / 490,00 ft) x 70,00 ft x (21,03 / 21,90 ft)
   (149,35 m / 149,35 m) x 21,34 m  x (6,41 / 6,68 m)

Armament:
      6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 41,0 cal guns - 486,01lbs / 220,45kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
      4 - 9,45" / 240 mm 41,0 cal guns - 486,01lbs / 220,45kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      10 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,93lbs / 49,41kg shells, 130 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 160 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6 086 lbs / 2 760 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,05" / 230 mm   311,00 ft / 94,79 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Ends:   3,15" / 80 mm   179,00 ft / 54,56 m   6,00 ft / 1,83 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   311,00 ft / 94,79 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,37" / 35 mm   338,00 ft / 103,02 m   19,00 ft / 5,79 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,00 ft / 18,29 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10,2" / 260 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   2nd:   10,2" / 260 mm   2,77" / 70 mm      9,05" / 230 mm
   3rd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,57" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,37" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,37" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9,05" / 230 mm, Aft 5,72" / 145 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19 827 ihp / 14 791 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 344 tons (50% coal)

Complement:
   549 - 714

Cost:
   £1,014 million / $4,056 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 036 tons, 9,1 %
      - Guns: 1 036 tons, 9,1 %
   Armour: 3 831 tons, 33,8 %
      - Belts: 1 478 tons, 13,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 326 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 826 tons, 7,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 041 tons, 9,2 %
      - Conning Towers: 161 tons, 1,4 %
   Machinery: 1 246 tons, 11,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 640 tons, 32,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 334 tons, 11,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 247 tons, 2,2 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 129 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15 274 lbs / 6 928 Kg = 36,2 x 9,5 " / 240 mm shells or 3,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 15,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,67
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,14 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  20,00 ft / 6,10 m,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Aft deck:   34,00 %,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m
      - Quarter deck:   18,00 %,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m,  9,00 ft / 2,74 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,06 ft / 3,98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 23 938 Square feet or 2 224 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 138 lbs/sq ft or 676 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,32
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

8t for 4 subTT x 18''
50t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for additionnal air equipement
104t for top fire control
25t for Marconi

[maddox]

As most realise, the Inca think Big. One idea proposed by the Lorekeepers. And they did send out Chasqui.

Message tubes appear again.

The wished project. A Costal defence base.

• Able to meet battleships of the same era on equal terms as a coastal defender.
• Support the 2 hands of MTB's or more carried behind armor.  (10 MTB A)