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Walter

Celtic class, Norse Ocean Liner laid down 1901


Displacement:
   24,033 t light; 24,599 t standard; 28,274 t normal; 31,214 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (718.17 ft / 704.00 ft) x 75.50 ft x (29.00 / 31.55 ft)
   (218.90 m / 214.58 m) x 23.01 m  x (8.84 / 9.62 m)

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 15,243 ihp / 11,371 Kw = 17.00 kts
   Range 4,500nm at 17.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6,615 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   1,089 - 1,417

Cost:
   £1.166 million / $4.665 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 2,322 tons, 8.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,012 tons, 24.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,240 tons, 15.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 14,700 tons, 52.0 %
      - Hull below water: 3,700 tons
      - Hull above water: 6,500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 4,000 tons
      - Above deck: 500 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     46,223 lbs / 20,967 Kg = 428.0 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 3.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 16.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.642 / 0.652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.53 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 26 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 4.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   14.40 %,  31.00 ft / 9.45 m,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.60 %,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.23 ft / 8.30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 66.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 190.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 40,419 Square feet or 3,755 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 146 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 509 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.45
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Walter

Olympic class, Norse Ocean Liner laid down 1908


Displacement:
   38,728 t light; 39,774 t standard; 52,310 t normal; 62,339 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (882.80 ft / 863.00 ft) x 92.50 ft x (36.00 / 41.81 ft)
   (269.08 m / 263.04 m) x 28.19 m  x (10.97 / 12.74 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, reciprocating cruising steam engines and steam turbines
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 72,117 ihp / 53,799 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 24.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 22,565 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1,729 - 2,248

Cost:
   £2.052 million / $8.207 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 4,974 tons, 9.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,254 tons, 27.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 13,583 tons, 26.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 19,500 tons, 37.3 %
      - Hull below water: 1,755 tons
      - Hull above water: 4,000 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 13,238 tons
      - Above deck: 507 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     138,259 lbs / 62,713 Kg = 1,280.2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 8.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.637 / 0.654
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.38 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 37 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 25
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 3.70 degrees
   Stern overhang: 16.50 ft / 5.03 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   14.40 %,  51.00 ft / 15.54 m,  47.00 ft / 14.33 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  41.00 ft / 12.50 m,  35.00 ft / 10.67 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  35.00 ft / 10.67 m,  38.00 ft / 11.58 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.60 %,  45.00 ft / 13.72 m,  48.00 ft / 14.63 m
      - Average freeboard:      39.98 ft / 12.19 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 44.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 249.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 60,431 Square feet or 5,614 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 178 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 615 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Walter

... and with the Olympic sim, I think I have finally run out of sims to post...

Walter

#108
The various shipping yards of the Norse Kingdom...

Originally I was going to use the same approach to the yards like I did with China with all docks (like Kirk will be doing with Parthia) as they are a lot more useful than slips. But then you cannot really use photos of ships being built on slips so I decided to use some slips as well this time.

Harland & Wolff Heavy Industries, Belfast, Ireland (*)
- Slip 270 m
- Slip 270 m
- Dock 270 m
- Dock 150 m
- Dock 120 m
- Slip 90 m

Workman, Clark and Company, Belfast, Ireland
- Dock 120 m
- Slip 90 m
- Slip 90 m

William Beardmore and Company, Dalmuir, Scotland
- Dock 150 m
- Slip 90 m
- Slip 90 m

John Brown and Company, Clydebank, Scotland
- Dock 220 m
- Dock 120 m
- Slip 90 m
- Dock 90 m

Stephens & Sons, Dundee, Scotland
- Dock 220 m
- Slip 120 m
- Dock 90 m

Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company, Limited, Govan, Scotland
- Slip 220 m
- Dock 120 m
- Slip 90 m
- Dock 90 m

Rosyth Dockyard, Rosyth, Scotland
- Slip 180 m
- Dock 150 m
- Dock 90 m

Armstrong Whitworth, Edinburgh, Scotland (**)
- Slip 180 m
- Dock 120 m
- Dock 90 m

Bergens Mekaniske Verksted, Bergen, Norway
- Dock 180 m
- Dock 120 m
- Dock 90 m

A/S Framnæs mek Værksted, Sandefjord,  Norway
- Dock 150 m
- Dock 120 m
- Dock 90 m

Moss Verft, Moss, Norway
- Dock 180 m
- Slip 120 m
- Dock 90 m

Haugesund Mekaniske Verksted, Haugesund, Norway
- Dock 180 m
- Slip 120 m
- Dock 90 m

Kaldnes Mekaniske Verksted, Tønsberg, Norway
- Slip 150 m
- Slip 120 m
- Dock 90 m

Polyarny Severnaya Verf, New Novgorod, Novgorod (***)
- Slip 150 m
- Dock 120 m
- Dock 90 m



(*) While it would be pretty much the same like the OTL company, in Navalism the firm was created by two guys who happened to be called Harland and Wolff (since the actual Harland is Roman and the actual Wolff is Swedish).
(**) OTL it is in Newcastle which would put it right on the border with them crazy Romans to the south... so I relocated it.
(***) New Novgorod is roughly where OTL Murmansk is located.

Walter

Did a little bit of shuffling which allowed for a few more small designs because of a certain target being achievable...

YF-1, Norse Yard Ferry laid down 1907


Displacement:
   91 t light; 93 t standard; 96 t normal; 99 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (85.24 ft / 85.00 ft) x 20.00 ft x (3.00 / 3.08 ft)
   (25.98 m / 25.91 m) x 6.10 m  x (0.91 / 0.94 m)

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 83 shp / 62 Kw = 9.00 kts
   Range 500nm at 9.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6 tons

Complement:
   14 - 19

Cost:
   £0.004 million / $0.015 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 5 tons, 4.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 26 tons, 27.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 tons, 5.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 62.3 %
      - Hull above water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     355 lbs / 161 Kg = 3.3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.80

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.661 / 0.664
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 9.22 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  2.75 ft / 0.84 m,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m,  2.60 ft / 0.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      2.61 ft / 0.80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 28.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 46.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,299 Square feet or 121 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 139 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 87 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.01
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Walter

#110
PB-1, Norse Pilot Boat (sail) laid down 1875

(or at least something like that... I used the values of the pilot cutter Madcap as base and used the image of the pilot cutter Cariad which is slightly newer, longer, wider and heavier than Madcap)

Displacement:
   29 t light; 30 t standard; 30 t normal; 30 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (47.07 ft / 43.10 ft) x 12.15 ft x (5.00 / 5.01 ft)
   (14.35 m / 13.14 m) x 3.70 m  x (1.52 / 1.53 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 0 ihp / 0 Kw = 0.00 kts
   Range 0nm at 0.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   6 - 8

Cost:
   £0.001 million / $0.004 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 tons, 34.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 2.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 19 tons, 63.5 %
      - Hull below water: 2 tons
      - Hull above water: 1 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 6 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     204 lbs / 92 Kg = 2.4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
   Metacentric height 0.2 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 3.55 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 6.57 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 0 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 25
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m,  4.50 ft / 1.37 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  4.50 ft / 1.37 m,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m,  4.50 ft / 1.37 m
      - Average freeboard:      4.29 ft / 1.31 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 12.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 39.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 305 Square feet or 28 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 157 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 87 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.77
      - Longitudinal: 10.64
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Walter

PB-41, Norse Pilot Boat laid down 1897

http://www.mels-place.com/mmm/Nostalgia/slides/2032-Pilot-Boat-New-York-1910.jpg

Displacement:
   492 t light; 503 t standard; 599 t normal; 675 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (158.94 ft / 154.00 ft) x 28.00 ft x (12.00 / 13.06 ft)
   (48.44 m / 46.94 m) x 8.53 m  x (3.66 / 3.98 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 1,010 ihp / 753 Kw = 14.20 kts
   Range 3,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 171 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   59 - 78

Cost:
   £0.040 million / $0.161 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 166 tons, 27.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 166 tons, 27.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 107 tons, 17.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 26.7 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     623 lbs / 283 Kg = 5.8 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.35
   Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.405 / 0.420
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.41 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.33 ft / 2.84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 74.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,519 Square feet or 234 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 36 lbs/sq ft or 177 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.85
      - Longitudinal: 4.39
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Walter

PB-58, Norse Pilot Boat laid down 1907


Displacement:
   24 t light; 24 t standard; 27 t normal; 29 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (61.97 ft / 58.00 ft) x 10.00 ft x (4.00 / 4.21 ft)
   (18.89 m / 17.68 m) x 3.05 m  x (1.22 / 1.28 m)

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 53 shp / 40 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 1,300nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5 tons

Complement:
   5 - 7

Cost:
   £0.001 million / $0.005 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 3 tons, 11.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 tons, 32.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 tons, 11.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 44.7 %
      - Hull above water: 2 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     75 lbs / 34 Kg = 0.7 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 0.2 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 9.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.405 / 0.414
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 7.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 26
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  5.50 ft / 1.68 m,  4.50 ft / 1.37 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  4.50 ft / 1.37 m,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m,  4.50 ft / 1.37 m
      - Average freeboard:      4.29 ft / 1.31 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 45.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 53.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 339 Square feet or 31 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 12 lbs/sq ft or 60 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.80
      - Longitudinal: 7.49
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Walter

The ship numbers and costs and the slips/docks costs....

Jefgte

Interresting.
I suppose that civilian ships are over the budget.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Walter

Not sure what you mean with civilian ships being over the budget...

I do not think it is necessary to include civilian ships and I would think that the Norse Kingdom has a bunch more than the ones posted above. It is just that the ones above are also used to support the Navy one way or another (whether it is to bring a pilot aboard to safely maneuver a battleship into a treacherous port or moving personnel from a shipbuilding yard from the front gate to the slip where they need to work on a battleship or extra space to transport troops or something else) while the others are not (or fall under the costs of the Deployment Points).

Also with the ability to spend 20 points on 200 BP extra for the Navy for a total of 680 BP, it allows me to make it divers with the various different types of ships, both military, auxiliaries and civilian ships that occasionally support the navy. There is still 0.0192375 BP left and I have not determined yet which vessel will get that little bit of leftovers. I am also not sure to leave things as they are or to shift the tugs and pilot boats so those duties will become part of the duties of the Norse Coast Guard. The lighthouse tenders probably should be shifted to the Coast Guard as well as I see the lighthouse duties as being part of the Norse Coast Guard's duties and the lighthouse vessels are listed under Coast Guard.

Jefgte

QuoteAlso with the ability to spend 20 points on 200 BP extra for the Navy for a total of 680 BP, it allows me to make it divers with the various different types of ships, both military, auxiliaries and civilian ships that occasionally support the navy.

Yeh, Baseline is 480BP for ships & shipyards.
200BP are for Super Norse Navy !!!

;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Walter

Well...

... There is a lot of water between Iceland and the other parts of the Norse Kingdom...
... There is a lot of water between Ireland and the other parts of the Norse Kingdom...
... There is a lot of water between Scotland and the other parts of the Norse Kingdom...
... There is a lot of water between Norway/Novgorod and the other parts of the Norse Kingdom...
... There is a lot of water between Svalbard and the other parts of the Norse Kingdom...
... There is a lot of water between... uhm... *looks at Navalism text file* ... Olaf Sveinsson Land and the other parts of the Norse Kingdom...

... so basically what I am saying is that there is a lot of water between all the parts of the Kingdom so I thought that that would require the extra 200 BPs to protect those waters. Calculating things yesterday, I noticed that I had about 4 times the number of ships compared to China and over 10 times the total displacement compared to China.

Jefgte

...There is a lot of water between Norse and Byzance

A Norse Squadron is welcome to call in Marmara see.

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Quote from: Walter on April 21, 2017, 11:34:30 AM


Also with the ability to spend 20 points on 200 BP extra for the Navy for a total of 680 BP, it allows me to make it divers with the various different types of ships, both military, auxiliaries and civilian ships that occasionally support the navy. There is still 0.0192375 BP left and I have not determined yet which vessel will get that little bit of leftovers. I am also not sure to leave things as they are or to shift the tugs and pilot boats so those duties will become part of the duties of the Norse Coast Guard. The lighthouse tenders probably should be shifted to the Coast Guard as well as I see the lighthouse duties as being part of the Norse Coast Guard's duties and the lighthouse vessels are listed under Coast Guard.

When I wander past, I have enjoyed the sheer variety that you put forth. I have no problems with your specifying what your support vessels look like.
I will caution that by my understanding of the rules, which was supplemented by my asking direct questions and resulted in the "Fleet Support tonnage" rule,
that you don't need to pay for the "auxiliaries and civilian ships that occasionally support the navy", etc - you just have them :)

That said, it is lovely assortment.  Had I more free time it would spur me to mimic you a bit. As it is, I took advantage of several unbooked weekends to rush out my sims and now I just wander on past every so often.
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Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest