Italia 1900 restart

[Kaiser Kirk]

The cruiser design under Vulcano is missing her name, laydown date and engine date...

Thanks, fixed.

[eltf177]

Thanks.

BTW, for St. Bon shouldn't those be twin turrets?

[Kaiser Kirk]

Thanks.

BTW, for St. Bon shouldn't those be twin turrets?

Why yes, yes they should. Good Catch.
once I get done with the auxiliaries and the fleet list, I'll get a reworked St. Bon up.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Well, if my spreadsheet is correct, I've used the 240BP allocated to the Italians. Most of which will be in reserve until the economy improves a couple years into the sim.
Had some issues when I realized misc weight for troops did count against cost, good thing I reread that part.

So, corrected St. Bon, just changed the turrets to twin, and reduced the construction reserve.
Deleted a couple ships from my projected OOB to free up tonnage for a transport, a tender/collier, a fleet tug/tender/collier (rescue vessel), some harbor tug/net tenders and a small hospital ship. 

So first the repost of St. Bon, who has kinda wound up a slower, better armored Swiftsure, rather than a modest one-up on Wien

Ammiraglio St Bon, Italia Battleship laid down 1896 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   11,762 t light; 12,340 t standard; 14,125 t normal; 15,553 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (439.63 ft / 433.07 ft) x 66.44 ft x (28.22 / 30.57 ft)
   (134.00 m / 132.00 m) x 20.25 m  x (8.60 / 9.32 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10.00" / 254 mm 40.0 cal guns - 500.45lbs / 227.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1894 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      16 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 165.35lbs / 75.00kg shells, 114 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1887 Model
     16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 14.33lbs / 6.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1893 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.99lbs / 0.45kg shells, 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,766 lbs / 2,162 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 255 mm   262.47 ft / 80.00 m   10.01 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   170.57 ft / 51.99 m   10.01 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   4.72" / 120 mm   196.85 ft / 60.00 m   16.01 ft / 4.88 m
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 255 mm   4.72" / 120 mm      4.72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   5.31" / 135 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks: 3.15" / 80 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.04" / 255 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 16,285 ihp / 12,148 Kw = 19.00 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,213 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   647 - 842

Cost:
   £1.163 million / $4.652 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 909 tons, 6.4 %
   Armour: 3,737 tons, 26.5 %
      - Belts: 1,999 tons, 14.1 %
      - Armament: 637 tons, 4.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 974 tons, 6.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 126 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 3,016 tons, 21.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,639 tons, 25.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,363 tons, 16.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 462 tons, 3.3 %
      - Hull below water: 162 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,498 lbs / 7,484 Kg = 33.0 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.66

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.609 / 0.619
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.52 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -12.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   30.00 %,  12.76 ft / 3.89 m,  12.76 ft / 3.89 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  20.77 ft / 6.33 m,  20.77 ft / 6.33 m
      - Aft deck:   20.00 %,  20.77 ft / 6.33 m,  20.77 ft / 6.33 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00 %,  12.76 ft / 3.89 m,  12.76 ft / 3.89 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.36 ft / 4.99 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 21,221 Square feet or 1,971 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 617 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.25
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Warning: Calibre too large for machine gun - 4th battery


Armor :
Upper belt covers from +6.33 to +1.45
With double casements spaced 20m apart, 1-2-3-4, 60m is needed
Main belt covers from +1.45m past the next deck at -0.99 to -1.6m
A 30mm deck caps the casements and upper belt,
while a 50mm deck caps the main belt.
Outside the citadel, a 30mm deck is fitted, capping the end belts. 

Decks:
+6.33
+3.89
+1.45
-0.99
-3.43
-5.87
-8.31


Miscellaneous weight is as follows :
132 Torpedo nets
30  2x Bow Tubes, 2 tubes each beam, 5x torps

300 construction reserve
BP : 11.762-0.3= 11.462

Next a solitary collier-tender, so that if fleet units run out of fuel or break down somewhere, or need to be refueled not in a port, this can be done without the ever-so-embarrasing hiring of commercial services.

Carbonia, Italia Tender-Collier laid down 1891 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   7,650 t light; 7,836 t standard; 8,309 t normal; 8,687 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (344.49 ft / 344.49 ft) x 68.90 ft x (18.04 / 18.75 ft)
   (105.00 m / 105.00 m) x 21.00 m  x (5.50 / 5.72 m)

Armament:
      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 47.18lbs / 21.40kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 47.18lbs / 21.40kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1892 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.99lbs / 0.45kg shells, 250 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 287 lbs / 130 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Box over magazines: 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,422 ihp / 1,807 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 4,975nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 851 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   434 - 565

Cost:
   £0.346 million / $1.384 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 56 tons, 0.7 %
   Armour: 52 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 27 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 25 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 449 tons, 5.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,023 tons, 24.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 658 tons, 7.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5,070 tons, 61.0 %
      - Hull below water: 2,500 tons
      - Hull above water: 2,500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 70 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,091 lbs / 5,484 Kg = 232.9 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.64
   Metacentric height 6.5 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.679 / 0.683
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 32 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.57 ft / 4.44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,668 Square feet or 1,734 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 407 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.72
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Warning: Calibre too large for machine gun - 3rd battery

Built to Mercantile standards.

Guns/Mounts amount to 56tons
Magazine to 19tons
30mm Box over magazines : 25t
Total : 100t  (vs. 162 allowed)

Decks at
+4.44
+2.00
-0.44
-2.88
-5.32

2500t : Coal
2500t : Tender capacity & workshops, up to 10,000ton of vessels
70t on deck : 3x 20 ton lighters, extra cranes & coaling equipment

BP cost : (7.65-2.5)/4= 1.2875

Then the little hospital ship, St. Raphael who's overriding consideration was being designed to use all the remaining tonnage in my budget.

St. Raphael, Italia Hospital Ship laid down 1891 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   1,348 t light; 1,380 t standard; 1,575 t normal; 1,732 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (199.57 ft / 196.85 ft) x 45.93 ft x (11.48 / 12.37 ft)
   (60.83 m / 60.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (3.50 / 3.77 m)

Armament:
      4 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 688 ihp / 513 Kw = 11.00 kts
   Range 6,030nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 352 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   124 - 162

Cost:
   £0.065 million / $0.260 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 127 tons, 8.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 476 tons, 30.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 227 tons, 14.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 740 tons, 47.0 %
      - Hull above water: 720 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,972 lbs / 1,348 Kg = 230,863.9 x 0.3 " / 8 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 11.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.531 / 0.542
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m,  12.99 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.19 ft / 4.02 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 123.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 6,199 Square feet or 576 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 158 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 53 lbs/sq ft or 260 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.86
      - Longitudinal: 3.66
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Warning: Raised guns + low guns > total guns - 3rd battery

Named after the patron saint of healing, the ArchAngel Raphael.
This vessel is used to bring relief to coastal areas,  as well as show a "kind face" to Italian diplomacy.

Built to Mercantile standards.

Doubling the troop requirement to 8t/ patient, the 720 tons is sufficient for a 90bed hospital.

20t on deck : 1x 20 ton lighters.

BP cost : 1.348/4 =  0.337

Then a troop transport.
Considering the length of coastline, and the various islands, having a dedicated troop transport- in addition to the expensive to run Italia class, seems like a good idea. I'd love a dozen, but there's this budget thing, and I really don't want to scrap a battleship.

Pasquale di Paoli, Italia Transport laid down 1891 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   7,650 t light; 7,836 t standard; 8,309 t normal; 8,687 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (344.49 ft / 344.49 ft) x 68.90 ft x (18.04 / 18.75 ft)
   (105.00 m / 105.00 m) x 21.00 m  x (5.50 / 5.72 m)

Armament:
      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 47.18lbs / 21.40kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 47.18lbs / 21.40kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1892 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.99lbs / 0.45kg shells, 250 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 287 lbs / 130 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Box over magazines: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,422 ihp / 1,807 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 4,975nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 851 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   434 - 565

Cost:
   £0.346 million / $1.384 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 56 tons, 0.7 %
   Armour: 69 tons, 0.8 %
      - Armament: 27 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 42 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 449 tons, 5.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,016 tons, 24.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 658 tons, 7.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5,060 tons, 60.9 %
      - Hull below water: 2,500 tons
      - Hull above water: 2,500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,059 lbs / 5,470 Kg = 232.3 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.65
   Metacentric height 6.6 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.679 / 0.683
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 32 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m,  14.57 ft / 4.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.57 ft / 4.44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,668 Square feet or 1,734 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 406 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.71
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Warning: Calibre too large for machine gun - 3rd battery

Named after Pasquale di Paoli a Corsican (France) patriot

Built to Mercantile standards.

Guns/Mounts amount to 56tons
Magazine to 19tons
50mm Box over magazines : 42t
(Note : these are 25mm boxes, but doubled in size to fit the Army's munitions safely.
Total : 126t  (vs. 161 allowed)

Decks at
+4.44
+2.00
-0.44
-2.88
-5.32
5,000t : Troop capacity for 1250 long term (Regiment + kit).
60t on deck : 3x 20 ton lighters.

BP cost : 7.65/4 = 1.9125

Next is a fleet tug to be based out of Taranto.
Battleship broken? Call a tow!
Torpedo boat broken ? Can fix on site !
Named after an actual Tug :)   

Pietro Micca, Italy Steam Tug laid down 1895 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   1,050 t light; 1,074 t standard; 1,112 t normal; 1,141 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (196.85 ft / 196.85 ft) x 39.37 ft x (9.84 / 10.04 ft)
   (60.00 m / 60.00 m) x 12.00 m  x (3.00 / 3.06 m)

Armament:
      1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal gun - 14.33lbs / 6.50kg shells, 100 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1893 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      2 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 115.0 cal guns - 10.02lbs / 4.54kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 34 lbs / 16 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   0.79" / 20 mm     32.81 ft / 10.00 m   24.84 ft / 7.57 m
     45.93 ft / 14.00 m Unarmoured ends

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 1,000 ihp / 746 Kw = 12.93 kts
   Range 2,380nm at 6.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 67 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   96 - 125

Cost:
   £0.066 million / $0.264 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 1.1 %
   Armour: 26 tons, 2.4 %
      - Belts: 24 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 185 tons, 16.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 376 tons, 33.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 62 tons, 5.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 40.5 %
      - Hull below water: 100 tons
      - Hull above water: 250 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,778 lbs / 807 Kg = 131.7 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.40
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.510 / 0.513
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  14.99 ft / 4.57 m,  14.99 ft / 4.57 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.99 ft / 4.57 m,  14.99 ft / 4.57 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  6.99 ft / 2.13 m,  6.99 ft / 2.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.99 ft / 2.13 m,  6.99 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.39 ft / 3.47 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 5,211 Square feet or 484 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 51 lbs/sq ft or 248 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 3.04
      - Overall: 1.10
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Warning: Armour belts too tall for hull

A fleet tug, equipped with 1000shp to move anything needed around.
The primary use to to retrieve broken down torpedo boats, and she is fitted for repairing and refueling them as needed.

Built to Mercantile Standards.
Hull is slightly overbuilt, and is reinforced in the bow : the 20mm "End Armor" is actually just prow reinforcement, covering keel to prow and back 10m, just steel not functional armor.

Guns come to 12t+2t magazines = 14t of the allowed 22.24t
The oddball 65/115 that occured historically is fitted here, just so it gets used.

100t is reserve coal for refueling
250tons is for tender ability, allowing repair of smaller vessels - torpedo boats and destroyers on site.
50 tons is for above deck cranes/repair/refueling gear.
50 tons is construction reserve.

Last, and pretty much least, are 4 harbor tug/netminders.
These are categories generally handwaved as typical harbo functions- but these represent the ability to go elsewhere and do it, the rest are presumed to be even less seaworthy.

Rimorchiatore I-IV, Italy Harbor Tug - Netminder laid down 1895 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   450 t light; 460 t standard; 467 t normal; 472 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (131.23 ft / 131.23 ft) x 32.81 ft x (6.56 / 6.62 ft)
   (40.00 m / 40.00 m) x 10.00 m  x (2.00 / 2.02 m)

Armament:
      1 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 115.0 cal gun - 10.02lbs / 4.54kg shells, 100 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1894 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward evenly spread
      2 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 10 lbs / 5 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   0.79" / 20 mm     32.81 ft / 10.00 m   14.76 ft / 4.50 m
     15.75 ft / 4.80 m Unarmoured ends

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 1,000 ihp / 746 Kw = 13.93 kts
   Range 500nm at 6.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 11 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   49 - 65

Cost:
   £0.041 million / $0.166 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 5 tons, 1.1 %
   Armour: 17 tons, 3.7 %
      - Belts: 14 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 174 tons, 37.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 154 tons, 33.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 16 tons, 3.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 21.4 %
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     500 lbs / 227 Kg = 59.6 x 2.6 " / 65 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.65
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 9.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.96

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.578 / 0.579
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 11.46 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.20 ft / 2.50 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 123.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,085 Square feet or 287 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 38 lbs/sq ft or 187 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 3.13
      - Overall: 1.08
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

A harbor tug, equipped with 1000shp to move anything needed around.


Built to Mercantile Standards.
Hull is slightly overbuilt, and is reinforced in the bow : the 20mm "End Armor" is actually just prow reinforcement, covering keel to prow and back 10m, just steel not functional armor.

Guns come to 5t+1t magazines = 6t of the allowed 9.34t
The oddball 65/115 that occured historically is fitted here, just so it gets used.

100 tons is for above deck cranes & net tending gear

BP cost : 0.45/4 = 0.1125

and with that...I realized I put 0.125 into my sheet not 0.1125, so I have an additional 50 tons...what to make? Another battleship?...

[The Rock Doctor]

Maybe a 1:200 scale model battleshhip?

[Guinness]

Racing yacht.

[snip]

Statues of the King.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Well,

Went back and made a master list from the final ships, wound up dropping the Ram to fit the Partenope class and another tug.
Attached is the excel sheet listing the vessels

Summary[/i]
4 Armored Cruisers, with 3 more building, 
7 Protected cruisers
2 Scout Cruisers
6 Torpedo Brigs
10* Predreads, with 2 more building
2 monitors
6 destroyers
112 MTBs
6 tugs
1 collier
1 transport
1 hospital ship

*two additional historic ones have been scrapped

Weaponry currently fielded includes :
  4 x 17"
24 x 13.5"
16 x 10"
16 x 8"
68 x 194mm
70 x 6"
136 x 4.7"
129 x 3"
and assorted smaller guns.

Combatant speeds range from a slow of 18 to a high of 27.14 for the new destroyers.

[Kaiser Kirk]

So, getting my fleet posted up etc.

Noted that the Regina Margherita had the same single gun mount issue as the St. Bons. In their case I just raised the displacement to compensate as they aren't fully built yet.

Decided I really disliked the Castore design relative to the Umbria design, so dropped 1/2 knot and changed the armanent & armor.

After assembling my Army weaponry realized how silly it would be for the Navy to use 11.4mm Gardners while the Army used 10.4mm Gardners. Granted, similar things have happened, but I just went through my Sims and manually edited the 11.4mm to 10.4mm. I'm pretty darn sure it doesn't effect the light tonnage of anything to loose that 1 mm on those MGs.

Just noted that the Regina Margherita had all 2x 2t12" all superimposed. "Fixing" that saved a ton of comp hull, allowing me to re-add the construction reserve and still winding up at the 15,200 light they were before the first fix. 
This won't be reflected in the draft budget, but will in the final.

edit : Started checking other sims, found St. Bon had the same isse as Regina, un-superimposed the main battery, raised the speed to suck up the comp hull, same light weight.

[Kaiser Kirk]

So this should be the final post in the pre-1900 ships....but I thought that of the last.

So the saga :

Originally, I was going to have 3 Garibaldis  and 2 Reginas building at 1900, with the Garibaldis completing 1901-1902, and the Regina Margeritas 1903ish.  A little slow, but I can only use 4.5 of my 8BP right now due to budget issues, I won't get to all 8BP utilized until 1903.

Then the nice bonus of a 1900 tech fell in my lap. Previously, I couldn't have planned on KC until 1902-3, and I was going to work on Army Reserves.....but here I took it with the stated purpose of being able to complete the ships building with KC....neglecting that consideration that here one should have the tech by laydown.

Retrofitting them in the ways is expensive, as it involves over 17BP of armor and $2.4 on ships where only 12BP has been committed to building them. That's two Garibaldis in reconstruction and would kick my completions back 1.5 years to 1903 & 1905 or so.

So, in 1898 when they "started research" in KC... and so knew that soonish (in 1900-1901) they'd have a new armor to put on new construction...I will just build Garibaldis, which can finish up by 1900. I won't have them start the Regina Margeritas, I'll do that in 1900, and they should still complete in 1903 as I can put most of my BP into them.

So that gives me 12BP in pre-1900 construction to reallocate.
You *can( spend up to 20% of your "start" BP in infrastructure, and I had a floating T2 dock that was under construction at Taranto, for 5.5BP.
Removing the 5 ships and floating dock leaves a total of ~214.4860BP expended....or 25.51 to go.

So, I've tweaked the Garibaldis by 500 tons, raising displacement to 9000light, with 300 unused, so $8.7/8.7BP.
That dispenses with the minedeck which apparently was a bit early, and provides more armor, albeit "compound".  The irony is I was happy with their armor before I got the armor tech, but once the mental picture became one that "lessening" the armor by reverting to "compound" I really felt the need to compensate- funny.

So I will just make the Garibaldis a class of 4x 8700, under construction in 1900, but 6,000 tons committed each and near completion, which will drop that floating dock to 1.514BP, which is fine, I'm mainly building it because they did historically, not because I really want to invest BPs there.

For the Reginas, I'll just edit the encyclopedia entry to read laid down 1900....


Below I include the revised Garibaldis design, and an attached Navy list showing how the BP was expended.

Guiseppi Garibaldi, Italy Armored Cruiser laid down 1898 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   9,000 t light; 9,375 t standard; 10,142 t normal; 10,756 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.70 ft / 387.14 ft) x 59.06 ft x (24.61 / 25.86 ft)
   (120.00 m / 118.00 m) x 18.00 m  x (7.50 / 7.88 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 504.86lbs / 229.00kg shells, 105 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 47.18lbs / 21.40kg shells, 125 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1892 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 47.18lbs / 21.40kg shells, 125 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 0.99lbs / 0.45kg shells, 850 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,778 lbs / 1,260 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.09" / 180 mm   314.96 ft / 96.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     72.15 ft / 21.99 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   4.72" / 120 mm   262.47 ft / 80.00 m   11.91 ft / 3.63 m
     Main Belt covers 125 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.09" / 180 mm   2.36" / 60 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   4.72" / 120 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks: 2.36" / 60 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.09" / 180 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20,659 ihp / 15,412 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5,510nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,382 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   504 - 656

Cost:
   £0.942 million / $3.767 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 467 tons, 4.6 %
   Armour: 2,510 tons, 24.8 %
      - Belts: 1,416 tons, 14.0 %
      - Armament: 336 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 687 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 72 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,228 tons, 31.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,356 tons, 23.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,143 tons, 11.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 438 tons, 4.3 %
      - Hull below water: 138 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,617 lbs / 3,002 Kg = 15.7 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.631 / 0.637
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.65 ft / 6.60 m,  17.85 ft / 5.44 m
      - Forward deck:   38.00 %,  17.85 ft / 5.44 m,  17.85 ft / 5.44 m
      - Aft deck:   27.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.79 ft / 4.51 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 120.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 17,210 Square feet or 1,599 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 99 lbs/sq ft or 482 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.05
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Warning: Calibre too large for machine gun - 4th battery


Upper belt covers from from the upmost deck (+3m aft of break, +5.44 for of break) to top of main belt at +0.59. An average distance of 3.63m
A 30mm armored deck caps the upper belt.
Main belt covers between the deck at 0.59m and -1.84m
A 30mm Armored deck meets the upper edge of the main belt and extended fore/aft at the top of the end belts.

Decks:
+5.44
+3.03
+0.59
-1.85
-4.79
-6.73

Miscellaneous Weight :
118 is torpedo nets
20 is  2 beam tubes per side, 5 torpedoes each.


300 is construction reserve.