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Started by Guinness, June 16, 2014, 08:01:36 PM

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Guinness

The Baltic contemporary to Rostislav:

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Tsesarevich, Russia Battleship laid down 1890

Displacement:
   10,900 t light; 11,484 t standard; 12,421 t normal; 13,170 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (387.14 ft / 370.73 ft) x 72.83 ft x (26.39 / 27.71 ft)
   (118.00 m / 113.00 m) x 22.20 m  x (8.04 / 8.45 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 35.0 cal guns - 805.62lbs / 365.42kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1889 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      14 - 5.98" / 152 mm 35.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1880 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 25.0 cal guns - 3.31lbs / 1.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1887 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 20.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,554 lbs / 2,066 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      1 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedo - 0.177 t total
   In a deck mounted carriage/fixed tube
      2nd Torpedoes
      6 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedoes - 0.177 t each, 1.061 t total
   In 6 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   15.7" / 400 mm   370.73 ft / 113.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Upper:   11.8" / 300 mm   220.64 ft / 67.25 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   7.87" / 200 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   7.87" / 200 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13.78" / 350 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 16.31 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,687 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   587 - 764

Cost:
   £0.909 million / $3.637 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 602 tons, 4.8 %
      - Guns: 601 tons, 4.8 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 4,911 tons, 39.5 %
      - Belts: 3,097 tons, 24.9 %
      - Armament: 902 tons, 7.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 753 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 159 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 1,748 tons, 14.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,487 tons, 28.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,521 tons, 12.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 152 tons, 1.2 %
      - Hull below water: 52 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,724 lbs / 7,586 Kg = 19.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 19.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.95

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.610 / 0.616
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.54 ft / 4.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,934 Square feet or 1,852 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 635 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc weights:
Below water: 7t Torpedos, 40t the Ram, 5t Vodka
Above water: 50t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Admiral's launches, 25t Reserve
Above deck: 25t Admiral's bridge

Walter

4 tons is 4471 liters of Vodka. With 1 liter per day for each crewmember, you would have enough for about 7 days if the ship has a crew of 635 men.

Looking at it now, maybe I should have added some miscellaneous tonnage on my ships for Buddhist purposes...

The Rock Doctor

It's probably reasonable for work in the Black Sea, but for extended cruises...

Walter

That is assuming that they drink 1 liter per day. Looking at the Tsesarevich, it has 5 tons so it looks like they drink more than 1 liter per day. They'll probably last for only 5 days. :)

BTW, I expect to see some minarets in your Ottoman battleships, Rocky. ;D

Guinness

#19
Successor to Tsesarevich in the Baltic:

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Borodino, Russia Battleship laid down 1895 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   11,300 t light; 11,936 t standard; 12,933 t normal; 13,730 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (400.26 ft / 383.86 ft) x 73.29 ft x (26.81 / 28.17 ft)
   (122.00 m / 117.00 m) x 22.34 m  x (8.17 / 8.59 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 731.27lbs / 331.70kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 5.98" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 25.0 cal guns - 3.31lbs / 1.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1887 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 20.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      4 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 224.68lbs / 101.91kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1890 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 4,787 lbs / 2,171 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      1 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedo - 0.177 t total
   In a deck mounted carriage/fixed tube
      2nd Torpedoes
      6 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedoes - 0.177 t each, 1.061 t total
   In 6 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   203.41 ft / 62.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   9.84" / 250 mm   180.45 ft / 55.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Upper:   9.84" / 250 mm   203.41 ft / 62.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
     Main Belt covers 82 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   7.87" / 200 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   7.87" / 200 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -
   5th:   9.45" / 240 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.84" / 250 mm

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.81" / 300 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 16.27 kts
   Range 5,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,793 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   606 - 788

Cost:
   £1.052 million / $4.209 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 944 tons, 7.3 %
      - Guns: 943 tons, 7.3 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 4,921 tons, 38.0 %
      - Belts: 2,675 tons, 20.7 %
      - Armament: 1,328 tons, 10.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 778 tons, 6.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 140 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 1,748 tons, 13.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,533 tons, 27.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,632 tons, 12.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 155 tons, 1.2 %
      - Hull below water: 55 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15,974 lbs / 7,245 Kg = 18.5 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 17.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 94 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.70

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.606
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.59 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.54 ft / 4.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,577 Square feet or 1,912 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 652 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.36
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc weights:
Below water: 7t Torpedos, 40t the Ram, 8t Vodka
Above water: 50t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Admiral's launches, 25t Reserve
Above deck: 25t Admiral's bridge

(modified for increased vodka reserves)

Guinness

The Vodka storage is extra, on top of what alcohol reserves would normally be shipped by other nations.

Walter

Oh, I thought that all the weight of the stores in " Fuel, ammunition & stores" was dedicated to Caviar so there was no place for Vodka and thus required miscellaneous weights. :)

The Rock Doctor

Quote from: Walter on June 18, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
That is assuming that they drink 1 liter per day. Looking at the Tsesarevich, it has 5 tons so it looks like they drink more than 1 liter per day. They'll probably last for only 5 days. :)

BTW, I expect to see some minarets in your Ottoman battleships, Rocky. ;D

That'd be in "Hull, fittings, and equipment", methinks.

Guinness

#23
For the Black Sea fleet, 2nd class battleships (or are they armored cruisers?), the Peresvet class. I had to figure out a way to get the Russian 10"/45 on a ship. ;-) Future iterations on this them will likely have the 24cm/45.

QuotePeresvet, Russia Battleship laid down 1898 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   9,900 t light; 10,370 t standard; 11,281 t normal; 12,010 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (410.11 ft / 393.70 ft) x 68.90 ft x (26.25 / 27.59 ft)
   (125.00 m / 120.00 m) x 21.00 m  x (8.00 / 8.41 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10.00" / 254 mm 45.0 cal guns - 496.48lbs / 225.20kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1894 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      11 - 5.98" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      24 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 25.0 cal guns - 2.88lbs / 1.31kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     22 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 20.0 cal guns - 1.39lbs / 0.63kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,072 lbs / 1,394 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      1 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedo - 0.250 t total
   submerged side tube
      2nd Torpedoes
      6 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedoes - 0.250 t each, 1.502 t total
   submerged side tubes
      Mines
      50 - 2,204.62 lbs / 1,000.00 kg mines - 49.210 t total
   in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.66" / 220 mm   393.70 ft / 120.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Upper:   7.87" / 200 mm   212.60 ft / 64.80 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   9.84" / 250 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   5.91" / 150 mm            -
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.81" / 300 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12,000 ihp / 8,952 Kw = 18.07 kts
   Range 6,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,640 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   546 - 711

Cost:
   £0.856 million / $3.425 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 699 tons, 6.2 %
      - Guns: 634 tons, 5.6 %
      - Weapons: 65 tons, 0.6 %
   Armour: 3,885 tons, 34.4 %
      - Belts: 1,811 tons, 16.1 %
      - Armament: 1,228 tons, 10.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 718 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 128 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 1,875 tons, 16.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,236 tons, 28.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,381 tons, 12.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 205 tons, 1.8 %
      - Hull below water: 55 tons
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,292 lbs / 7,390 Kg = 32.6 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 11.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 14.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.555 / 0.562
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.80 ft / 6.95 m
      - Forward deck:   60.00 %,  22.80 ft / 6.95 m,  22.64 ft / 6.90 m
      - Aft deck:   10.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.75 ft / 6.33 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,012 Square feet or 1,766 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 575 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.87
      - Longitudinal: 3.31
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc weights:
Below water: 7t Torpedos, 40t the Ram, 8t Vodka
Above water: 50t for 50 mines, 50t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Admiral's launches, 25t Reserve
Above deck: 25t Admiral's bridge

Guinness

#24
On to Armored cruisers... This one for the Baltic:

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Admiral Nakhimov, Russia Armoured Cruiser laid down 1885 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   7,500 t light; 7,861 t standard; 8,517 t normal; 9,042 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (354.33 ft / 337.93 ft) x 60.14 ft x (25.51 / 26.78 ft)
   (108.00 m / 103.00 m) x 18.33 m  x (7.78 / 8.16 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.99" / 203 mm 35.0 cal guns - 193.57lbs / 87.80kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1885 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 5.98" / 152 mm 35.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1885 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      14 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 25.0 cal guns - 3.31lbs / 1.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1887 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 20.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,927 lbs / 874 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      1 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedo - 0.138 t total
   submerged side tube
      2nd Torpedoes
      6 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedoes - 0.138 t each, 0.828 t total
   submerged side tubes
      Mines
      50 - 2,204.62 lbs / 1,000.00 kg mines - 49.210 t total
   in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   337.93 ft / 103.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   182.09 ft / 55.50 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   5.91" / 150 mm            -
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 17.29 kts
   Range 4,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,181 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   443 - 576

Cost:
   £0.607 million / $2.429 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 404 tons, 4.7 %
      - Guns: 341 tons, 4.0 %
      - Weapons: 63 tons, 0.7 %
   Armour: 2,936 tons, 34.5 %
      - Belts: 1,459 tons, 17.1 %
      - Armament: 876 tons, 10.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 549 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 1,667 tons, 19.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,288 tons, 26.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,018 tons, 11.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 205 tons, 2.4 %
      - Hull below water: 55 tons
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,542 lbs / 4,328 Kg = 40.4 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 16.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 13.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 99 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.38
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.78

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.582
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.38 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Forward deck:   60.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Aft deck:   10.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.55 ft / 4.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,519 Square feet or 1,349 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 531 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.74
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc weights:
Below water: 7t Torpedos, 40t the Ram, 8t Vodka
Above water: 50t for 50 mines, 50t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Spar-torpedo launches, 25t Reserve
Above deck: 25t Rigging

Guinness

Contemporary to Admiral Nakhimov, but built in the Black Sea:

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Dmitrii Donskoi, Russia Armoured Cruiser laid down 1885 (Engine 1890)
Central citadel ship

Displacement:
   6,100 t light; 6,379 t standard; 6,920 t normal; 7,353 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (328.08 ft / 311.68 ft) x 54.13 ft x (25.18 / 26.45 ft)
   (100.00 m / 95.00 m) x 16.50 m  x (7.68 / 8.06 m)

Armament:
      1 - 7.99" / 203 mm 35.0 cal gun - 193.57lbs / 87.80kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading gun in turret on barbette mount, 1885 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      11 - 5.98" / 152 mm 35.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1885 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck centre
      14 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 25.0 cal guns - 3.31lbs / 1.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1887 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 20.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,255 lbs / 569 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      1 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedo - 0.138 t total
   submerged side tube
      2nd Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m torpedoes - 0.138 t each, 0.552 t total
   submerged side tubes
      Mines
      50 - 2,204.62 lbs / 1,000.00 kg mines - 49.210 t total
   in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   311.68 ft / 95.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   196.85 ft / 60.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   5.91" / 150 mm            -
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm            -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8,000 ihp / 5,968 Kw = 17.23 kts
   Range 4,100nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 974 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   379 - 493

Cost:
   £0.478 million / $1.913 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 242 tons, 3.5 %
      - Guns: 179 tons, 2.6 %
      - Weapons: 63 tons, 0.9 %
   Armour: 2,398 tons, 34.7 %
      - Belts: 1,260 tons, 18.2 %
      - Armament: 639 tons, 9.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 453 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 46 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 1,482 tons, 21.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,774 tons, 25.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 820 tons, 11.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 205 tons, 3.0 %
      - Hull below water: 55 tons
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,267 lbs / 3,296 Kg = 30.8 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 13.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.60

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.570 / 0.577
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.76 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Forward deck:   59.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m
      - Aft deck:   11.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.68 ft / 4.17 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 86.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,998 Square feet or 1,115 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs/sq ft or 474 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.80
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc weights:
Below water: 7t Torpedos, 40t the Ram, 8t Vodka
Above water: 50t for 50 mines, 50t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Spar-torpedo launches, 25t Reserve
Above deck: 25t Rigging

Jefgte

Why did you SS old 1885 ships ?

Pre start fleet is from 1890 to 1899.

Donkskoi or Nakhimov "ll be better with SS in 1892 or 1895

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

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Quote from: Jefgte on June 22, 2014, 03:44:23 PM
Why did you SS old 1885 ships ?

Pre start fleet is from 1890 to 1899.

Donkskoi or Nakhimov "ll be better with SS in 1892 or 1895

Jef  ;)
He chose to do this.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Guinness

They are going to be scrap come 1901 or so anyway, and they were a fun warm up.

Jefgte

QuoteThey are going to be scrap come 1901 or so anyway, and they were a fun warm up.

IMO, this is a mess of BP and naval power.

Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf