Rollcall and Other Misc. Statistics

[Walter]

Well, I have simmed the ships and gave an estimate as to how big the Chinese army would be. It should not be too hard to figure out how to break down the nation into a number of pieces. Not sure what to do with fortifications and coast defenses. Should I try to figure something out what seems to be acceptable to have at the start or should I just forget about that and just begin from scratch in 1900?

[snip]

Well, I have simmed the ships and gave an estimate as to how big the Chinese army would be. It should not be too hard to figure out how to break down the nation into a number of pieces. Not sure what to do with fortifications and coast defenses. Should I try to figure something out what seems to be acceptable to have at the start or should I just forget about that and just begin from scratch in 1900?

Your call on that. I would think there would be some things in existance, at least covering harbors.

[Darman]

I paid for my coast defenses, so I didn't have to worry about what was there historically or not.  China presents a different challenge as far as fortresses goes though because a lot of the ports will have been under foreign occupation. 

[Logi]

Question :
Looking at the map, I've noted that the large British and French African Empires are mostly, but not completely gone, but Portugals remain, Belgium lacks the Kongo, and Germany has lost her colonies...but Italy has picked up the German East African coastline and part of Somalia ?  Then, NE of South Afrika there are an inland light green, coastal pale pink, and an inland umber...which are...independent Africans?? Also, which nation is the yellowish south of French Algeria ?
Is that a correct interpretation ?

I used the default 1870 distribution Victoria 2 gives which came with the map. I didn't modify the distribution of colonies because of the existence of a stronger Ottoman Empire, I had intended those colonies to be part of the diplomatic maneuvers leading up to the first sim report.

As for the South African states, they are as Darman indicated.

How far along is anyone else on their startup information and first sim reports?

Mostly everything is assembled, save for the question of fortifications and coast defenses. We still haven't decided on the fortification/coast-defense rules. That was what I've been meaning to talk to Snip about. I'm also now on a semi-reliable connection in a normal timezone, so you guys should be able to find me in the IRC as usual.

Well, I have simmed the ships and gave an estimate as to how big the Chinese army would be. It should not be too hard to figure out how to break down the nation into a number of pieces. Not sure what to do with fortifications and coast defenses. Should I try to figure something out what seems to be acceptable to have at the start or should I just forget about that and just begin from scratch in 1900?

My stance is the same as Snip's.

[Logi]

I've added Fortification/Coast Defense & Army rules to the N6 rules, the ruleset is now complete for starting

I will post a complete example sim report (excel doc) tomorrow.

[snip]

complete for starting

In our review. If something major is missing, Im sure you will all be vocal about it.

[Guinness]

Holy cow. Good show everyone.

I feel neglectful, as up till about the time this thread got cranking, I'd managed to at least catch up quietly on what was going on.

I just got done putting up about 50k air miles, almost all Trans-Atlantic in the first half of the year, but looking at my calendar, I've got no travel planned for the rest of the year. That'll change, but I don't expect to flying back and forth to Europe every other week....

I was just thinking about how I hadn't opened Springsharp in a while, either.

So, if Rocky wants to play, got room for one more? Or I suppose I could lurk and speak for the NPCs when they need speaking for.

I'm looking into the Twitter terms of service related to joint accounts, and I'll be renewing this website's hosting this month.  ;)

[Guinness]

Oh and on rules.

I personally enjoyed obsessing over naval engagments, but they are very time consuming. Our custom ships are of course part of the problem and really the point.

I wonder though if we might boil them down to a simple rating system for simulation. Something like 5 attributes, size, speed, protection, firepower, and combat worthiness. Then we can reduce all combat to weighted rolls fairly easily (I think). How do we get those weights. Well, the Mods probably assign them, but I see no reason why we couldn't do a spreadsheet and share them with the involved players (and give them a chance to object). Fun narratives can still happen, but we can keep things moving along.

Now with real time chat, I suppose an interactive battle or two with some more involved set of rules could get fought too....

[Darman]

We've been working on some rules for ground combat.  We started a simulation, but i think week-long increments for orders is too short an amount of time to keep things moving. 

[snip]

So, if Rocky wants to play, got room for one more? Or I suppose I could lurk and speak for the NPCs when they need speaking for.

All hail Czar Guinness! (Russia is the spot that is to be filled before others, and I assume that Logi would be ok with this *awaits fish slapping if wrong*)

[snip]

We've been working on some rules for ground combat.  We started a simulation, but i think week-long increments for orders is too short an amount of time to keep things moving.

Was I the one who fracked that up?

[Logi]

Was I the one who fracked that up?

Might have been me...

So, if Rocky wants to play, got room for one more? Or I suppose I could lurk and speak for the NPCs when they need speaking for.

All hail Czar Guinness! (Russia is the spot that is to be filled before others, and I assume that Logi would be ok with this *awaits fish slapping if wrong*)

No problems with that, we'd be glad to have you on board.

[Guinness]

Russia might not have been my first choice, but I'm warming to it. I suppose the Bolsheviks could come early...

I see on the map that Sakhalin Island is divided. In our timeline that didn't happen until the 1904 Russo-Japanese war. This probably isn't a big deal, but I thought it deserved asking/pointing out.

[snip]

Russia might not have been my first choice, but I'm warming to it. I suppose the Bolsheviks could come early...

The only reason we want to prod you in that direction is due to Russia being involved basically everywhere important due to being so large, while Germany is not. I support early 1900's Cold War (tho the sides could be different...)

heh, warming to it

[Guinness]

It's just in such a disadvantageous position is all. It helps to think of the Pacific coast as a colony, I guess. Holding Finland helps a little with the situation in the Baltic. The Black Sea will depend on the Ottomans, but with Rocky staffing the Ottomans, that's one of biggest plusses to me.

Also, I guess I'm not too motivated by land armies, but Germany would have the same problem, so that nets out as a wash.

I found the startup BP, but can someone point me to each nation's first year IC and BP budget? Or does that depend on what you spend on to start with?