1930s Dutch Ships

[Delta Force]

On the 5.25" guns, are you sure you want them in turret on barbette mounts rather than mount and hoist?

What's the difference between the two? Can you have enclosed mount and hoist guns?

[KWorld]

On the 5.25" guns, are you sure you want them in turret on barbette mounts rather than mount and hoist?

What's the difference between the two? Can you have enclosed mount and hoist guns?

Sure you can have enclosed mount and hoist guns.  The difference is weight: turret on barbette is heavier, but it can also scale up to larger weapons. The biggest mount & hoist mounts I can think are the twin 6" mounts on the USS Omahas.

[Delta Force]

I guess I mean more along the lines of what is the difference in layout. I've seen some secondary mount diagrams where it appears they use shell and powder rooms like the bigger guns, while others seem to store the shells in a carousel similar to modern autoloader tanks (perhaps they are modern autoloading naval cannons).

Also, what does beam between bulkheads mean? I think I know what it means, but it doesn't explain why you can have numbers that don't evenly divide into a beam. For example, a 50 foot beam separation on a ship with a 100 foot beam would seem to imply two outer bulkheads, but I can actually set a 60 foot beam between bulkheads. You can't set a 100 foot beam bulkhead though, so I don't know how the World War I style bulkheads that simply ran down the middle of a ship are handled.

[KWorld]

I guess I mean more along the lines of what is the difference in layout. I've seen some secondary mount diagrams where it appears they use shell and powder rooms like the bigger guns, while others seem to store the shells in a carousel similar to modern autoloader tanks (perhaps they are modern autoloading naval cannons).

From http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/Gun_Data.htm:
Turret - There is always a controversy about whether a particular rotating enclosed gun emplacement should be called a "Turret" or a "Mount."  In the USN, the difference between a turret and a mount is that a "Turret" is built into the ship, has a stalk that extends well below the weather deck and includes a barbette, while a "Mount" is not part of the ship's structure and does not include a barbette.  As a general rule, 5 inch (12.7 cm) and smaller guns are in "Mounts" while 6 inch (15.2 cm) and larger guns are in "Turrets."  Other navies had similar distinctions.

Also, what does beam between bulkheads mean? I think I know what it means, but it doesn't explain why you can have numbers that don't evenly divide into a beam. For example, a 50 foot beam separation on a ship with a 100 foot beam would seem to imply two outer bulkheads, but I can actually set a 60 foot beam between bulkheads. You can't set a 100 foot beam bulkhead though, so I don't know how the World War I style bulkheads that simply ran down the middle of a ship are handled.

It basically means the distance between the torpedo bulkheads, if any.  A pre-WWI ship with a single lengthwise bulkhead would, for SS3, have it's "beam between bulkeads" set to the full beam width (and it's bulkhead type set to strengthened and the thickness to 0 since this feature doesn't work in SS3b3).

[Nobody]

Also, what does beam between bulkheads mean? I think I know what it means, but it doesn't explain why you can have numbers that don't evenly divide into a beam. For example, a 50 foot beam separation on a ship with a 100 foot beam would seem to imply two outer bulkheads, but I can actually set a 60 foot beam between bulkheads. You can't set a 100 foot beam bulkhead though, so I don't know how the World War I style bulkheads that simply ran down the middle of a ship are handled.

It's basically the space that remains for your engine and magazines.

Examples:
Bismarck, had a 6 m wide torpedo protection system. So, from her 36 m width, 24 m between those bulkhead remained for the engine.
Hood. You have tho deduct the torpedo bulges. 31.7 minus 2x3.05 is 25.6 between bulkheads.

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I've decided to give the battlecruiser and cruiser killer concepts the same powerplants to simplify logistics and training. Since the 200,000 horsepower ships are faster than anything else afloat even in tropical conditions, I'm going to look into less powerful engines to help save money. It's unnecessary to have capital ships that can realistically outrun a destroyer or light cruiser.

Dutch East Indies Battleshipv5 Long Hull, Netherlands Fast Battleship laid down 1939

Displacement:
   40,253 t light; 42,500 t standard; 46,391 t normal; 49,504 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (870.72 ft / 860.00 ft) x 100.00 ft x (32.00 / 33.68 ft)
   (265.39 m / 262.13 m) x 30.48 m  x (9.75 / 10.27 m)

Armament:
      9 - 15.00" / 381 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,940.00lbs / 879.97kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 18,804 lbs / 8,529 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   610.00 ft / 185.93 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   610.00 ft / 185.93 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 64.00 ft / 19.51 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   5.00" / 127 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 5.00" / 127 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 200,000 shp / 149,200 Kw = 33.12 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7,004 tons

Complement:
   1,579 - 2,054

Cost:
   £21.685 million / $86.738 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,867 tons, 6.2 %
      - Guns: 2,867 tons, 6.2 %
   Armour: 13,551 tons, 29.2 %
      - Belts: 5,668 tons, 12.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,083 tons, 2.3 %
      - Armament: 3,474 tons, 7.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,159 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Towers: 167 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 5,411 tons, 11.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,424 tons, 39.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,137 tons, 13.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     70,649 lbs / 32,046 Kg = 41.9 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 9.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 5.9 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 17.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.90
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.590 / 0.598
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  40.00 ft / 12.19 m,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.44 ft / 8.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 202.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 64,930 Square feet or 6,032 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 208 lbs/sq ft or 1,014 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.31
      - Overall: 1.02
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Ship capable of approximately 32.25 knots in tropical waters.

Dutch East Indies Cruiser Killer, Netherlands Cruiser Killer laid down 1939

Displacement:
   28,734 t light; 30,600 t standard; 33,804 t normal; 36,367 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (802.72 ft / 792.00 ft) x 88.00 ft x (28.00 / 29.68 ft)
   (244.67 m / 241.40 m) x 26.82 m  x (8.53 / 9.05 m)

Armament:
      9 - 12.00" / 305 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1,140.01lbs / 517.10kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 11,284 lbs / 5,119 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   514.00 ft / 156.67 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   514.00 ft / 156.67 m   28.00 ft / 8.53 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72.00 ft / 21.95 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 4.00" / 102 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 200,000 shp / 149,200 Kw = 34.51 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,767 tons

Complement:
   1,246 - 1,620

Cost:
   £15.810 million / $63.239 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,873 tons, 5.5 %
      - Guns: 1,873 tons, 5.5 %
   Armour: 8,554 tons, 25.3 %
      - Belts: 3,106 tons, 9.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 799 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armament: 1,843 tons, 5.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,671 tons, 7.9 %
      - Conning Towers: 135 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 5,411 tons, 16.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,896 tons, 38.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,070 tons, 15.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     48,642 lbs / 22,064 Kg = 56.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 6.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.82
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.606 / 0.615
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32.02 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  40.00 ft / 12.19 m,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.44 ft / 8.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 211.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 53,446 Square feet or 4,965 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 843 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.40
      - Overall: 1.01
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Ship capable of approximately 33.5 knots in tropical waters.

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180,000 horsepower designs.

Dutch East Indies Battleship 180000 HP, Netherlands Fast Battleship laid down 1939

Displacement:
   39,275 t light; 41,500 t standard; 45,334 t normal; 48,401 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (870.72 ft / 860.00 ft) x 100.00 ft x (32.00 / 33.67 ft)
   (265.39 m / 262.13 m) x 30.48 m  x (9.75 / 10.26 m)

Armament:
      9 - 15.00" / 381 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,940.00lbs / 879.97kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 18,804 lbs / 8,529 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   590.00 ft / 179.83 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   590.00 ft / 179.83 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 64.00 ft / 19.51 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   5.00" / 127 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 5.00" / 127 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 180,000 shp / 134,280 Kw = 32.39 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6,902 tons

Complement:
   1,553 - 2,019

Cost:
   £21.044 million / $84.178 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,867 tons, 6.3 %
      - Guns: 2,867 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 13,171 tons, 29.1 %
      - Belts: 5,507 tons, 12.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,048 tons, 2.3 %
      - Armament: 3,474 tons, 7.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,978 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Towers: 164 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 4,870 tons, 10.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,367 tons, 40.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,060 tons, 13.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     71,411 lbs / 32,392 Kg = 42.3 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 9.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 17.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.94
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.577 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33.58 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  40.00 ft / 12.19 m,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.44 ft / 8.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 203.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 64,099 Square feet or 5,955 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 209 lbs/sq ft or 1,020 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.33
      - Overall: 1.02
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Ship capable of approximately 31.5 knots in tropical waters.

Dutch East Indies Cruiser Killer 180000 HP, Netherlands Cruiser Killer laid down 1939

Displacement:
   27,903 t light; 29,750 t standard; 32,898 t normal; 35,417 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (802.72 ft / 792.00 ft) x 88.00 ft x (28.00 / 29.68 ft)
   (244.67 m / 241.40 m) x 26.82 m  x (8.53 / 9.04 m)

Armament:
      9 - 12.00" / 305 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1,140.01lbs / 517.10kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 11,284 lbs / 5,119 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   514.00 ft / 156.67 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   514.00 ft / 156.67 m   28.00 ft / 8.53 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72.00 ft / 21.95 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 4.00" / 102 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 180,000 shp / 134,280 Kw = 33.81 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,667 tons

Complement:
   1,220 - 1,587

Cost:
   £15.200 million / $60.799 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,873 tons, 5.7 %
      - Guns: 1,873 tons, 5.7 %
   Armour: 8,392 tons, 25.5 %
      - Belts: 3,101 tons, 9.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 799 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armament: 1,843 tons, 5.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,515 tons, 7.6 %
      - Conning Towers: 133 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 4,870 tons, 14.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,768 tons, 38.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,996 tons, 15.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     49,340 lbs / 22,380 Kg = 57.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 6.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.86
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.590 / 0.599
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32.07 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  40.00 ft / 12.19 m,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.44 ft / 8.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 212.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 52,622 Square feet or 4,889 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 844 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.43
      - Overall: 1.01
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Ship capable of approximately 33 knots in tropical waters.

[Delta Force]

160,000 horsepower designs.

Dutch East Indies Battleship 160000 HP, Netherlands Fast Battleship laid down 1939

Displacement:
   37,904 t light; 40,100 t standard; 43,854 t normal; 46,858 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (870.72 ft / 860.00 ft) x 100.00 ft x (32.00 / 33.67 ft)
   (265.39 m / 262.13 m) x 30.48 m  x (9.75 / 10.26 m)

Armament:
      9 - 15.00" / 381 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,940.00lbs / 879.97kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 18,804 lbs / 8,529 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   574.00 ft / 174.96 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   574.00 ft / 174.96 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 64.00 ft / 19.51 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   5.00" / 127 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 5.00" / 127 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 160,000 shp / 119,360 Kw = 31.64 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6,759 tons

Complement:
   1,514 - 1,969

Cost:
   £20.325 million / $81.298 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,867 tons, 6.5 %
      - Guns: 2,867 tons, 6.5 %
   Armour: 12,833 tons, 29.3 %
      - Belts: 5,374 tons, 12.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,019 tons, 2.3 %
      - Armament: 3,474 tons, 7.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,804 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Towers: 161 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 4,329 tons, 9.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 17,875 tons, 40.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,951 tons, 13.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     71,061 lbs / 32,233 Kg = 42.1 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 10.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 5.7 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 17.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.99
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.558 / 0.566
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33.65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  40.00 ft / 12.19 m,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.44 ft / 8.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 204.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 62,951 Square feet or 5,848 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 206 lbs/sq ft or 1,008 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.34
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Ship capable of approximately 30.75 knots in tropical waters.

Dutch East Indies Cruiser Killer 160000 HP, Netherlands Cruiser Killer laid down 1939

Displacement:
   26,973 t light; 28,800 t standard; 31,886 t normal; 34,354 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (802.72 ft / 792.00 ft) x 88.00 ft x (28.00 / 29.67 ft)
   (244.67 m / 241.40 m) x 26.82 m  x (8.53 / 9.04 m)

Armament:
      9 - 12.00" / 305 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1,140.01lbs / 517.10kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 11,284 lbs / 5,119 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   514.00 ft / 156.67 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   514.00 ft / 156.67 m   28.00 ft / 8.53 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72.00 ft / 21.95 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 4.00" / 102 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 160,000 shp / 119,360 Kw = 33.03 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,554 tons

Complement:
   1,192 - 1,550

Cost:
   £14.570 million / $58.278 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,873 tons, 5.9 %
      - Guns: 1,873 tons, 5.9 %
   Armour: 8,225 tons, 25.8 %
      - Belts: 3,096 tons, 9.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 799 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armament: 1,843 tons, 5.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,357 tons, 7.4 %
      - Conning Towers: 130 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 4,329 tons, 13.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,546 tons, 39.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,913 tons, 15.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     49,809 lbs / 22,593 Kg = 57.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 6.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.90
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.572 / 0.581
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  40.00 ft / 12.19 m,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  32.00 ft / 9.75 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Average freeboard:      27.44 ft / 8.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 213.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 51,714 Square feet or 4,804 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 123 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 172 lbs/sq ft or 841 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.45
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Ship capable of approximately 32.25 knots in tropical waters.

[KWorld]

The big one has an issue:

>      Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

[Delta Force]

The big one has an issue:

>      Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

I edited in the fix.

[Delta Force]

This battlecruiser design is intended to be capable of fighting two enemy battleships at once. Since IJN battleships were mostly armed with 14 inch guns and were of slower speed, these ships will actually be rather competitive. Any thoughts on the design?

Dutch East Indies Battlecruiser, Netherlands Battlecruiser laid down 1939

Displacement:
   39,596 t light; 42,000 t standard; 45,944 t normal; 49,100 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (787.50 ft / 780.00 ft) x 108.00 ft x (32.00 / 33.73 ft)
   (240.03 m / 237.74 m) x 32.92 m  x (9.75 / 10.28 m)

Armament:
      16 - 13.00" / 330 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1,235.01lbs / 560.19kg shells, 110 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x Quad mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      12 - 5.25" / 133 mm 50.0 cal guns - 80.01lbs / 36.29kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1939 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      32 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm 39.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,800 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1939 Model
     4 x 2 row octuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 20,784 lbs / 9,428 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   542.00 ft / 165.20 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.50" / 38 mm   542.00 ft / 165.20 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 76.00 ft / 23.16 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   3rd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   5.00" / 127 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 5.00" / 127 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 180,000 shp / 134,280 Kw = 31.94 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7,100 tons

Complement:
   1,568 - 2,039

Cost:
   £23.836 million / $95.342 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3,837 tons, 8.4 %
      - Guns: 3,837 tons, 8.4 %
   Armour: 12,950 tons, 28.2 %
      - Belts: 5,165 tons, 11.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 963 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 3,684 tons, 8.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,916 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Towers: 221 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 4,870 tons, 10.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 17,939 tons, 39.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,348 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     68,530 lbs / 31,085 Kg = 62.4 x 13.0 " / 330 mm shells or 9.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 7.0 ft / 2.1 m
   Roll period: 17.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.85
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.597 / 0.605
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.22 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32.38 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m,  28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Average freeboard:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 217.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 64,000 Square feet or 5,946 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 216 lbs/sq ft or 1,057 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.69
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Ship capable of approximately 31 knots in tropical waters.

[KWorld]

Lots of main guns, but I'm not sure of the wisdom of going hunting 14" gunned BBs with a 13" gunned ship.

Question: why are you using "box over magazine and machinery" deck armor vs armored decks?

[Delta Force]

Lots of main guns, but I'm not sure of the wisdom of going hunting 14" gunned BBs with a 13" gunned ship.

Question: why are you using "box over magazine and machinery" deck armor vs armored decks?

The French 330 mm Model 1931 actually had very high armor penetration for its size and a rather flat trajectory, so it's closer to an oversized 11 inch gun in performance. Deck penetration isn't the best though. As for the armor box, I thought that was for the all or nothing armor scheme?

[Delta Force]

What does box over machinery/magazine deck armor represent?

[Nobody]

What does box over machinery/magazine deck armor represent?

I believe it's what some destroyers in the 1940s had. It means that some, probably internal walls, around engine rooms and magazines are slightly armored, but nothing else.