Possible ships of the USN - post 1899

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KWorld

Oh, is that all?

USS Boulder, United States Armored Cruiser laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   5,084 t light; 5,316 t standard; 5,942 t normal; 6,443 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (435.00 ft / 435.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (21.25 / 22.59 ft)
   (132.59 m / 132.59 m) x 13.72 m  x (6.48 / 6.89 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.00" / 178 mm 45.0 cal guns - 164.99lbs / 74.84kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.00" / 127 mm 50.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.01lbs / 5.90kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,164 lbs / 528 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   435.00 ft / 132.59 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 15,779 ihp / 11,771 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,127 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   337 - 439

Cost:
   £0.623 million / $2.490 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 270 tons, 4.5 %
      - Guns: 270 tons, 4.5 %
   Armour: 841 tons, 14.2 %
      - Belts: 386 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armament: 135 tons, 2.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 299 tons, 5.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 21 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,466 tons, 41.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,471 tons, 24.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 859 tons, 14.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 0.6 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,464 lbs / 1,118 Kg = 14.4 x 7.0 " / 178 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.32
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.510
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.86 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.36 ft / 3.16 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 150.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 73.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,042 Square feet or 1,212 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 373 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.13
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 18" 5m side mounted submerged torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.

Jefgte

Like your last BB class, USS Nebraska, you could have cruisers with AQY turrets.
Just an idea...

Jef ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

KWorld

Quote from: Jefgte on January 03, 2013, 05:21:34 PM
Like your last BB class, USS Nebraska, you could have cruisers with AQY turrets.
Just an idea...

Jef ;)

AXY, actually.  But it is a thought....

Tanthalas

or you could use single mount and hoist mounts and give it say wing turrets.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

KWorld

Quote from: Tanthalas on January 04, 2013, 08:12:55 AM
or you could use single mount and hoist mounts and give it say wing turrets.

That's essentially the current (1899) design: 1 bow centerline mount & hoist shielded gun, port and starboard mount & hoist shielded guns, 2 stern centerline mount & hoist shielded guns (no overhead or side armor on the mounts, just the gun shield and hoist armor).

KWorld

A bigger, faster, collier.


USS Triton, United States Collier laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   10,130 t light; 10,355 t standard; 11,242 t normal; 11,951 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (395.00 ft / 395.00 ft) x 62.50 ft x (25.00 / 26.33 ft)
   (120.40 m / 120.40 m) x 19.05 m  x (7.62 / 8.02 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,748 ihp / 2,050 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,595 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   545 - 709

Cost:
   £0.415 million / $1.659 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 429 tons, 3.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,076 tons, 18.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,111 tons, 9.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7,625 tons, 67.8 %
      - Hull below water: 5,000 tons
      - Hull above water: 2,500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 75 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,760 lbs / 5,334 Kg = 188.2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.46
   Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 87 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.75

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.638 / 0.644
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.87 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 27 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.04 ft / 3.97 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 65.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,696 Square feet or 1,737 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 133 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 369 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.46
      - Overall: 1.01
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

On-deck miscellaneous weight accounts for coaling gantries and hoists.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight includes a long-range wireless and coaling cranes.

Hull miscellaneous weight is all coal (7500 tons).

KWorld

Tweaked to add 500 tons more coal and some light defensive guns.

USS Triton, United States Collier laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   10,742 t light; 10,995 t standard; 11,911 t normal; 12,644 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (390.00 ft / 390.00 ft) x 65.00 ft x (26.00 / 27.34 ft)
   (118.87 m / 118.87 m) x 19.81 m  x (7.92 / 8.33 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.00" / 127 mm 50.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.01lbs / 5.90kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 152 lbs / 69 kg

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,843 ihp / 2,121 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,649 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   569 - 741

Cost:
   £0.448 million / $1.793 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 34 tons, 0.3 %
      - Guns: 34 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 444 tons, 3.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,139 tons, 18.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,168 tons, 9.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 8,125 tons, 68.2 %
      - Hull below water: 6,000 tons
      - Hull above water: 2,000 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 75 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,794 lbs / 5,803 Kg = 204.7 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.62
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 88 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.76

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.633 / 0.638
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 28 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.69 ft / 3.87 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 63.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,109 Square feet or 1,775 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 379 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

On-deck miscellaneous weight accounts for coaling gantries and hoists.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight includes a long-range wireless and coaling cranes.

Hull miscellaneous weight is all coal (8000 tons).

KWorld

A coastal torpedo boat.

USS Preble, United States Coastal Torpedo Boat laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   150 t light; 154 t standard; 163 t normal; 171 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (166.54 ft / 165.00 ft) x 15.00 ft x (6.00 / 6.17 ft)
   (50.76 m / 50.29 m) x 4.57 m  x (1.83 / 1.88 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 5.71lbs / 2.59kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 0.24" / 6.0 mm 118.5 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 800 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 11 lbs / 5 kg

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,355 ihp / 2,503 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 65nm at 24.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 17 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   22 - 29

Cost:
   £0.020 million / $0.080 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 1.5 %
      - Guns: 2 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 101 tons, 62.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 44 tons, 27.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 13 tons, 8.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 1.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     33 lbs / 15 Kg = 5.8 x 2.2 " / 57 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 10.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.385 / 0.391
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.85 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  8.75 ft / 2.67 m,  8.25 ft / 2.51 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Average freeboard:      6.89 ft / 2.10 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 204.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 57.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,508 Square feet or 140 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 15 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 14 lbs/sq ft or 69 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.10
      - Overall: 0.58
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Carries 2 18" 4m torpedoes in fixed deck-mounted tubes.

Trials speed 30.21 knots
Cruise range at 10 knots is 750 nm

KWorld

#23
As turbines become available, they may be tested in various vessels.


USS Burrows, United States Torpedo boat destroyer laid down 1904 (Engine 1903)

Displacement:
   494 t light; 511 t standard; 582 t normal; 638 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (267.82 ft / 265.00 ft) x 24.50 ft x (8.25 / 8.75 ft)
   (81.63 m / 80.77 m) x 7.47 m  x (2.51 / 2.67 m)

Armament:
      5 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 65 lbs / 29 kg

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,529 shp / 7,109 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 170nm at 27.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 127 tons (80% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   58 - 76

Cost:
   £0.068 million / $0.274 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 15 tons, 2.6 %
      - Guns: 15 tons, 2.6 %
   Machinery: 337 tons, 58.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 129 tons, 22.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 88 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 13 tons, 2.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 3 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     118 lbs / 53 Kg = 8.7 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.393
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.82 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.28 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 78
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.03 ft / 2.75 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,944 Square feet or 366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 99 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.96
      - Overall: 0.53
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

On-deck weight accounts for 3 centerline rotatable 18" 5m wet heater torpedo tubes.

Above-deck miscellaneous weight allows for a short-range wireless installation.

Trials speed = 29.69 knots
Cruise range at 12 knots is 1500 nm, at 10 knots 2250 nm.

KWorld

And another test vessel, testing out Fessenden's idea of a turbo-electric drive.


USS Warrington, United States Torpedo boat destroyer laid down 1904 (Engine 1903)

Displacement:
   494 t light; 511 t standard; 582 t normal; 638 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (267.82 ft / 265.00 ft) x 24.50 ft x (8.25 / 8.75 ft)
   (81.63 m / 80.77 m) x 7.47 m  x (2.51 / 2.67 m)

Armament:
      5 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 65 lbs / 29 kg

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 9,529 shp / 7,109 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 170nm at 27.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 127 tons (80% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   58 - 76

Cost:
   £0.068 million / $0.274 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 15 tons, 2.6 %
      - Guns: 15 tons, 2.6 %
   Machinery: 337 tons, 58.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 129 tons, 22.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 88 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 13 tons, 2.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 3 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     118 lbs / 53 Kg = 8.7 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.393
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.82 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.28 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 78
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.03 ft / 2.75 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,944 Square feet or 366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 99 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.96
      - Overall: 0.53
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

On-deck weight accounts for 3 centerline rotatable 18" 5m wet heater torpedo tubes.

Above-deck miscellaneous weight allows for a short-range wireless installation.

Trials speed = 29.69 knots
Cruise range at 12 knots is 1500 nm, at 10 knots 2250 nm.

KWorld

But, in 1904, the reciprocating engine is still comparable to the turbine....

USS Jones, United States Torpedo boat destroyer laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   500 t light; 517 t standard; 582 t normal; 633 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (267.82 ft / 265.00 ft) x 24.50 ft x (8.25 / 8.71 ft)
   (81.63 m / 80.77 m) x 7.47 m  x (2.51 / 2.65 m)

Armament:
      5 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 65 lbs / 29 kg

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,529 ihp / 7,109 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 220nm at 27.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 116 tons (80% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   58 - 76

Cost:
   £0.070 million / $0.279 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 15 tons, 2.6 %
      - Guns: 15 tons, 2.6 %
   Machinery: 344 tons, 59.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 128 tons, 22.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 81 tons, 14.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 13 tons, 2.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 3 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     113 lbs / 51 Kg = 8.4 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.392
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.82 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.28 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 78
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m,  13.75 ft / 4.19 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m,  6.75 ft / 2.06 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.03 ft / 2.75 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 197.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,944 Square feet or 366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 21 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 98 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.95
      - Overall: 0.53
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

On-deck weight accounts for 3 centerline rotatable 18" 5m wet heater torpedo tubes.

Above-deck miscellaneous weight allows for a short-range wireless installation.

Trials speed = 29.71 knots
Cruise range at 12 knots  1900 nm, at 10 knots 2900 nm.

Jefgte

IMO,
These small ships could be built in 70m SL.
Reserve 120m SL to scout cruisers.

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

KWorld

I could, I'm sure, but I have 15 S1s vs only 10 S0s, and only 5 D0s vs 15 D1s.  So I'm not sure it's worthwhile.

Jefgte

This is just to optimize the use of industrial shipyards resources...

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

KWorld

Heh, the way I'll probably optimize those is to enlarge most or all of the S0s to S1s.  :)  That way they'll be useful for later, larger DDs, which 70m S0s aren't.