Iberian Navy

[Logi]

For the time being I'm assuming standard history with regard to the battle of the Spanish-American War although with a different peace settlement.

This ship (unnamed right now) was laid down before the start of the Spanish-American war, but work continued slowly due to the huge budget cuts made to the navy after the Rif War and the shift in focus of the Spanish government to the Spanish Army.

Humiliated by the lost colonies after the war, the Spanish government re-instituted a heavy focus on the Spanish navy. In general the series of defeats the Spanish had suffered at the hands of those who were once inferior to them forced great introspection.

Hull-005, Iberia Predreadnought laid down 1895

Displacement:
   6,126 t light; 6,511 t standard; 7,000 t normal; 7,391 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (350.00 ft / 350.00 ft) x 60.00 ft x (21.00 / 21.93 ft)
   (106.68 m / 106.68 m) x 18.29 m  x (6.40 / 6.68 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 637.82lbs / 289.31kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 258.18lbs / 117.11kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.94lbs / 5.87kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 3,688 lbs / 1,673 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   200.00 ft / 60.96 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
   Ends:   3.50" / 89 mm   150.00 ft / 45.72 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   200.00 ft / 60.96 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   10.0" / 254 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,838 ihp / 4,356 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 880 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   382 - 497

Cost:
   £0.666 million / $2.665 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 659 tons, 9.4 %
      - Guns: 659 tons, 9.4 %
   Armour: 2,257 tons, 32.2 %
      - Belts: 1,157 tons, 16.5 %
      - Armament: 507 tons, 7.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 498 tons, 7.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 95 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 990 tons, 14.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,220 tons, 31.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 874 tons, 12.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,587 lbs / 2,988 Kg = 9.9 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.556 / 0.562
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 66.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,732 Square feet or 1,369 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 607 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.69
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[snip]

Quite verticly short belts there

[Logi]

Well it was because the freeboard is so low. The upper belt has to cover a height in multiples of deck height.
I assume 6 ft tall deck heights are the bare minimum and so I had to cut the main belt height (it's 50% above and below waterline by default in SS) so that there was one deck height above the main belt.

I couldn't make the freeboard be higher because that would easily force 500 more tons on the ship.

[Tanthalas]

uhm Logi just a few minor issues that realy jump out at me. 
Issues
1: uhm dont you think that freeboard is just a tad low for an ocean going ship?
2: BC isnt bad (actualy lowish for period BBs) but with that L-B IDK if you would actualy have room for all the guns (im realy concernd about how well your twin 11" turrets would fit at the ends)
3: isnt 16 knots a tad slow realy anything could run it down or run away from it...

Oh and a question who are you buying your 11" guns from? the shell weight is off for the german 11/40 (should be 529)

[snip]

I also note that 8" L45 are just a bit advanced, L40 would be better. That will save some tonnage.

[Logi]

1: uhm dont you think that freeboard is just a tad low for an ocean going ship?

If it ever decides to go for service in Africa, yes. The waves would force no combat on the ship - although SS says it can go through the weather. It would just never be able to fire in the weather.

However in the Mediterranean Sea, the coast off Iberia (Atlantic  side), and the area around the Philippines the waves are relatively calm and this amount of freeboard would have no problems. Of course the slow speed of the ship helps too - it doesn't generate much bow wave.

2: BC isnt bad (actualy lowish for period BBs) but with that L-B IDK if you would actualy have room for all the guns (im realy concernd about how well your twin 11" turrets would fit at the ends)

Well I looked at historical ships. Length is not an issue, although the beam could possibly be trouble. However, the two 8" guns are at midships where there is the widest beam. It also has comparatively fewest guns in total compared to other ships in the period. It carries 8 small secondaries whilst out ships of the period carries 8-10 and eliminates the rest of the guns for 2 twin 8"s.

But I would have preferred a larger BC if I had the composite strength - which is likely once I reduce the secondary to L40 and correct te shell weight (I was indeed thinking of buying from Krupp).

3: isnt 16 knots a tad slow realy anything could run it down or run away from it...

There shouldn't be a need to chase anything - given the lack of capacity and the recent lost of a fleet the Spanish Navy doesn't have the ability to chase. Also, even the 2 kts to 18 kts is expensive - costing about 0.30 composite strength. So until there's improved engine technology the ship won't be getting much faster. The typical pre-dreadnought speed is 18 kts, the fast ones are 20 or faster. But faster are either weaker or significantly larger - which isn't then a concern. The typical enemy ship isn't fast enough to run away.

I know this for sure because in N4 there was a simmed battle between the RRC and Russian navy where the RRC was simmed at not being able to get away due to only 2 kts of speed difference and was thus destroyed. ::)

If a tiny ship can force other ships to run from it, hasn't it completed it mission of area denial? The mission of a battleship is to secure an area, not engage ships - it's just a side-effect of the mission.

Oh and a question who are you buying your 11" guns from? the shell weight is off for the german 11/40 (should be 529)

I also note that 8" L45 are just a bit advanced, L40 would be better. That will save some tonnage.

Thanks guys, I'll fix as soon as possible.

[Logi]

Correct the guns - increased forecastle freeboard, not SS rates as 1.21 seakeeping. BC increased to 0.594 and beam increased from 60' to 62'.

Hull-005, Iberia Predreadnought laid down 1895

Displacement:
   6,149 t light; 6,506 t standard; 7,000 t normal; 7,395 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (350.00 ft / 350.00 ft) x 62.00 ft x (19.00 / 19.88 ft)
   (106.68 m / 106.68 m) x 18.90 m  x (5.79 / 6.06 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.00lbs / 239.95kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 40.0 cal guns - 245.35lbs / 111.29kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.94lbs / 5.87kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 3,201 lbs / 1,452 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   200.00 ft / 60.96 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
   Ends:   3.50" / 89 mm   150.00 ft / 45.72 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   200.00 ft / 60.96 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   10.7" / 273 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,957 ihp / 4,444 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 889 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   382 - 497

Cost:
   £0.655 million / $2.619 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 623 tons, 8.9 %
      - Guns: 623 tons, 8.9 %
   Armour: 2,315 tons, 33.1 %
      - Belts: 1,168 tons, 16.7 %
      - Armament: 518 tons, 7.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 534 tons, 7.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 95 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 1,010 tons, 14.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,202 tons, 31.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 851 tons, 12.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,278 lbs / 3,301 Kg = 10.9 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 13.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.594 / 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.65 ft / 2.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 73.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,786 Square feet or 1,467 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 578 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[KWorld]

I'm dubious about a 6' deck height: that means that anyone over about 5'8" is walking around with a permanent stoop, proabbly want to go to a 2m/7' height here.  The speed is perfectly in-period, certainly the USN has a number of ships of similar speed (USS Indiana, for instance).  Length matches up with the Indianas as well, and the Indianas carried more weapons on that hull (they were wider and substantially deeper).  I would be rather worried about TBs in this design, though, with only 4 quick-firing guns per side you're pretty vulnerable to a charge.

[Jefgte]

...with only 4 quick-firing guns per side you're pretty vulnerable to a charge.

Decrease armor of  belt or turrets to have 12 to 16 guns.
305 to 300
356 to 350

Jef

[Tanthalas]

Having spent a bit of time on a ship or 2 in my life (admitedly modern US ships but ships none the less), and having toured Mikasa a couple times, I figure minimum for a 6 foot useable deck height is 7 foot decks (there are all kinds of pipes and crap in the overhead).

Honestly Logi its a decent effort, that said I think your just trying to do to much on to little tonage.  I made that mistake in N2/N3 as did several others we ended up with ships that all we could realy do with was scrap them when their original service lives were over.

*edit*
My original 6 startup predreads are all gone, si I can't link you to them but none of them were over 7K tons light and while they technicly worked Cramped dosnt even begin to describe their problems LOL.

[Logi]

I'm dubious about a 6' deck height: that means that anyone over about 5'8" is walking around with a permanent stoop, probably want to go to a 2m/7' height here.

Actually very few people on Earth at 1900 were above 5' 8" tall. The average height in Spain in 1895-1900 for example was 164.27 cm or 5' 3.8". This average height increased at about a rate of 1 cm per 5-10 years.

It's not a worry for a long long time.

Having spent a bit of time on a ship or 2 in my life (admitedly modern US ships but ships none the less), and having toured Mikasa a couple times, I figure minimum for a 6 foot useable deck height is 7 foot decks (there are all kinds of pipes and crap in the overhead).

Interesting so I'll raise the freeboard.

Modified - 7' decks and increase of tertiary guns (3") from 8 to 12. Main belt thickness increased to 14" from 12".
Added 500 tons to normal displacement.

Hull-005, Iberia Predreadnought laid down 1895

Displacement:
   6,615 t light; 6,991 t standard; 7,500 t normal; 7,908 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (350.00 ft / 350.00 ft) x 62.00 ft x (22.00 / 22.94 ft)
   (106.68 m / 106.68 m) x 18.90 m  x (6.71 / 6.99 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.00lbs / 239.95kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 40.0 cal guns - 245.35lbs / 111.29kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.94lbs / 5.87kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 3,253 lbs / 1,475 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   190.00 ft / 57.91 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   160.00 ft / 48.77 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   190.00 ft / 57.91 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 84 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   10.5" / 267 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.10" / 53 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,090 ihp / 4,543 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 917 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   402 - 523

Cost:
   £0.677 million / $2.706 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 631 tons, 8.4 %
      - Guns: 631 tons, 8.4 %
   Armour: 2,662 tons, 35.5 %
      - Belts: 1,464 tons, 19.5 %
      - Armament: 564 tons, 7.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 535 tons, 7.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 99 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 1,032 tons, 13.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,290 tons, 30.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 885 tons, 11.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,048 lbs / 3,650 Kg = 12.1 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 14.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.50 ft / 3.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 75.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,142 Square feet or 1,407 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 590 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.90
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[KWorld]

This one's a good deal better.  Shows a bit of a French influence in the gun layout, which is perfectly appropriate in a 1895 Spanish design.

[Logi]

A later one-off variant -  modification of the Hull-005 design with replacing the secondary 8" with the main caliber.
The main caliber is switched to the new (at 1898) 12"/40 offered by Armstrong Whitworth.

The hull is increased in all dimensions for a total of an additional 2,500 ton of weight over the previous class. The guns are arranged, as before, in the hexagonal style of the French.

Hull-006, Iberia Predreadnought laid down 1898

Displacement:
   8,808 t light; 9,415 t standard; 9,996 t normal; 10,460 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (380.00 ft / 380.00 ft) x 70.00 ft x (24.00 / 24.88 ft)
   (115.82 m / 115.82 m) x 21.34 m  x (7.32 / 7.58 m)

Armament:
      8 - 12.00" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 849.99lbs / 385.55kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 6,971 lbs / 3,162 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   219.00 ft / 66.75 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
   Ends:   4.50" / 114 mm   161.00 ft / 49.07 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   219.00 ft / 66.75 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7,128 ihp / 5,317 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,046 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   499 - 649

Cost:
   £1.028 million / $4.114 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,073 tons, 10.7 %
      - Guns: 1,073 tons, 10.7 %
   Armour: 3,342 tons, 33.4 %
      - Belts: 1,672 tons, 16.7 %
      - Armament: 923 tons, 9.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 627 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 120 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 1,150 tons, 11.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,244 tons, 32.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,187 tons, 11.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,456 lbs / 4,289 Kg = 10.9 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.548 / 0.553
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.92 ft / 3.33 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 75.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,529 Square feet or 1,721 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 702 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 1.93
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Tanthalas]

Espania in 1896, NOPE...   8" twins on the wings no problem, 10" twins on the wings ehhhhh proly ok, 12" twins on the wings just not gona happen.  Its a dreadnaught type and that isnt allowed till like 1905ish per the rules, course if you want 12" twins on the wings you could always put like 13.5" twins for the main guns, and later on jerk them out and refit with a 12" tripple.

[snip]

This design will not be allowed. It violates the capital ship architecture rules for the level that will be allowed at game start (1890: Mixed main armament with double turrets+casemates). Willful ignorance of the rules that are in place will have consequences. You should know better then this.