Ships of the Royal Navy: Pre-Start

Started by snip, September 11, 2012, 11:56:16 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

snip

Designs under consideration for use in the Royal navy at the beginning of the sim.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Illustrious Class, United Kingdom Battleship laid down 1895

Displacement:
   13,127 t light; 13,682 t standard; 14,500 t normal; 15,154 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (390.00 ft / 390.00 ft) x 75.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.03 ft)
   (118.87 m / 118.87 m) x 22.86 m  x (8.23 / 8.54 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 35.0 cal guns - 850.00lbs / 385.55kg shells, 70 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 4,800 lbs / 2,177 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   253.50 ft / 77.27 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   9.00" / 229 mm   136.48 ft / 41.60 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   253.50 ft / 77.27 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -         4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -         3.00" / 76 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 2.50" / 64 mm  Quarter deck: 2.50" / 64 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 14.00" / 356 mm, Aft 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,967 ihp / 7,435 Kw = 16.37 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,472 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   659 - 858

Cost:
   £0.993 million / $3.970 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 746 tons, 5.1 %
      - Guns: 746 tons, 5.1 %
   Armour: 6,470 tons, 44.6 %
      - Belts: 3,486 tons, 24.0 %
      - Armament: 1,159 tons, 8.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,544 tons, 10.6 %
      - Conning Towers: 282 tons, 1.9 %
   Machinery: 1,689 tons, 11.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,972 tons, 27.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,373 tons, 9.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 250 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     26,632 lbs / 12,080 Kg = 30.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.35
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 13.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.643 / 0.647
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.20 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 57.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 122.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,256 Square feet or 2,068 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 647 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.75
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Based on the OTL Majestic class, I felt it would be a safe place to start.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Darman

Quote from: snip on September 11, 2012, 11:57:15 PM
Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 35.0 cal guns - 850.00lbs / 385.55kg shells, 70 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
-snipped-
Don't you need 2 twin mounts? 
Quote
Based on the OTL Majestic class, I felt it would be a safe place to start.
Could the IJN order themselves one or two of these? 

snip

Yes, aside from the fact a computer restart ate the sim :-[ will redo her at some point soon
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Darman

lol thats fine.  you could probably borrow mine if you wanted.  it would be the true "export" version of the Majestic class anyways

snip

Aphrodite, Royal Navy  Second Class Cruiser laid down 1890

Displacement:
   2,950 t light; 3,054 t standard; 3,397 t normal; 3,672 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (314.00 ft / 300.00 ft) x 43.00 ft x (17.50 / 18.59 ft)
   (95.71 m / 91.44 m) x 13.11 m  x (5.33 / 5.67 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 500 lbs / 227 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.50" / 114 mm   0.50" / 13 mm            -
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 19.94 kts
   Range 4,002nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 618 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   222 - 289

Cost:
   £0.348 million / $1.390 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 68 tons, 2.0 %
      - Guns: 68 tons, 2.0 %
   Armour: 377 tons, 11.1 %
      - Armament: 64 tons, 1.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 298 tons, 8.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,593 tons, 46.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 912 tons, 26.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 447 tons, 13.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,734 lbs / 787 Kg = 16.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.82
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 9.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.40

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.527 / 0.536
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.98 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 158.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 90.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,807 Square feet or 818 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 87 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 67 lbs/sq ft or 329 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.08
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Since we are only going from 1895 now...

Aphrodite, Royal Navy Second Class Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   3,000 t light; 3,104 t standard; 3,419 t normal; 3,671 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (314.00 ft / 300.00 ft) x 43.00 ft x (17.50 / 18.50 ft)
   (95.71 m / 91.44 m) x 13.11 m  x (5.33 / 5.64 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 500 lbs / 227 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   291.00 ft / 88.70 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 149 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.50" / 114 mm   0.50" / 13 mm            -
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 19.91 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 566 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   223 - 290

Cost:
   £0.332 million / $1.328 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 68 tons, 2.0 %
      - Guns: 68 tons, 2.0 %
   Armour: 598 tons, 17.5 %
      - Belts: 181 tons, 5.3 %
      - Armament: 74 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 329 tons, 9.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,469 tons, 43.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 865 tons, 25.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 419 tons, 12.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,998 lbs / 906 Kg = 18.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.72
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 9.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.530 / 0.538
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.98 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   1.50 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   67.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   1.50 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 90.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,835 Square feet or 821 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 312 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.07
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Redone version

Illustrious, United Kingdom First Class Battleship laid down 1895

Displacement:
   13,100 t light; 13,655 t standard; 14,472 t normal; 15,126 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (390.00 ft / 390.00 ft) x 75.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.03 ft)
   (118.87 m / 118.87 m) x 22.86 m  x (8.23 / 8.54 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 35.0 cal guns - 850.00lbs / 385.55kg shells, 70 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 4,800 lbs / 2,177 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   210.60 ft / 64.19 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   9.00" / 229 mm   179.38 ft / 54.68 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   210.60 ft / 64.19 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 83 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 2.50" / 64 mm  Quarter deck: 2.50" / 64 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 14.00" / 356 mm, Aft 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,000 ihp / 7,460 Kw = 16.39 kts
   Range 7,009nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,471 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   659 - 857

Cost:
   £0.992 million / $3.970 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 643 tons, 4.4 %
      - Guns: 643 tons, 4.4 %
   Armour: 6,458 tons, 44.6 %
      - Belts: 3,501 tons, 24.2 %
      - Armament: 1,187 tons, 8.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,489 tons, 10.3 %
      - Conning Towers: 281 tons, 1.9 %
   Machinery: 1,695 tons, 11.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,054 tons, 28.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,372 tons, 9.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 250 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     26,674 lbs / 12,099 Kg = 30.9 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
   Metacentric height 5.6 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.98

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.641 / 0.646
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.20 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 36
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.50 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Aft deck:   24.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.50 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 122.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,231 Square feet or 2,065 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 645 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.66
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Cant say I am thrilled with this. Trying to put to much on the hull I think.

Albion, United Kingdom First Class Battleship laid down 1897

Displacement:
   14,100 t light; 14,715 t standard; 15,552 t normal; 16,221 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (420.00 ft / 420.00 ft) x 75.00 ft x (27.00 / 27.98 ft)
   (128.02 m / 128.02 m) x 22.86 m  x (8.23 / 8.53 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 35.0 cal guns - 850.00lbs / 385.55kg shells, 70 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 9.20" / 234 mm 40.0 cal guns - 380.00lbs / 172.37kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      10 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 5,845 lbs / 2,651 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   216.30 ft / 65.93 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   7.00" / 178 mm   203.68 ft / 62.08 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   216.30 ft / 65.93 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 79 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   7.00" / 178 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   4th:   3.00" / 76 mm         -         3.00" / 76 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13.00" / 330 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 14,500 ihp / 10,817 Kw = 17.98 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,506 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   696 - 905

Cost:
   £1.226 million / $4.905 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 949 tons, 6.1 %
      - Guns: 949 tons, 6.1 %
   Armour: 6,141 tons, 39.5 %
      - Belts: 3,055 tons, 19.6 %
      - Armament: 1,390 tons, 8.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,522 tons, 9.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 175 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 2,377 tons, 15.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,433 tons, 28.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,452 tons, 9.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 1.3 %
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21,802 lbs / 9,889 Kg = 25.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 14.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.72

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.640 / 0.644
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   26.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Aft deck:   21.50 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Quarter deck:   22.50 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,921 Square feet or 2,222 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 139 lbs/sq ft or 676 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Remembrance, United Kingdom Second Class Battleship laid down 1895

Displacement:
   9,780 t light; 10,215 t standard; 11,323 t normal; 12,210 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (380.00 ft / 380.00 ft) x 72.00 ft x (26.00 / 27.61 ft)
   (115.82 m / 115.82 m) x 21.95 m  x (7.92 / 8.42 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10.00" / 254 mm 32.0 cal guns - 500.00lbs / 226.80kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 3,150 lbs / 1,429 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   209.00 ft / 63.70 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   170.98 ft / 52.11 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   209.00 ft / 63.70 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8.00" / 203 mm, Aft 4.50" / 114 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,000 ihp / 8,952 Kw = 17.96 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,995 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   548 - 713

Cost:
   £0.801 million / $3.203 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 453 tons, 4.0 %
      - Guns: 453 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 3,933 tons, 34.7 %
      - Belts: 2,192 tons, 19.4 %
      - Armament: 757 tons, 6.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 848 tons, 7.5 %
      - Conning Towers: 136 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 2,034 tons, 18.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,310 tons, 29.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,543 tons, 13.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.4 %
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,406 lbs / 7,895 Kg = 34.8 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.99

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.557 / 0.566
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.28 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,226 Square feet or 1,786 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 120 lbs/sq ft or 585 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 3.01
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Ariadne, United Kingdom First Class Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   9,485 t light; 9,895 t standard; 11,000 t normal; 11,884 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (435.00 ft / 435.00 ft) x 69.00 ft x (25.50 / 27.04 ft)
   (132.59 m / 132.59 m) x 21.03 m  x (7.77 / 8.24 m)

Armament:
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      14 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,575 lbs / 714 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   282.75 ft / 86.18 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   152.23 ft / 46.40 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm            -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 4.00" / 102 mm
   Forecastle: 2.50" / 64 mm  Quarter deck: 2.50" / 64 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18,000 ihp / 13,428 Kw = 20.45 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,990 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   536 - 698

Cost:
   £0.828 million / $3.312 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 222 tons, 2.0 %
      - Guns: 222 tons, 2.0 %
   Armour: 2,695 tons, 24.5 %
      - Belts: 905 tons, 8.2 %
      - Armament: 271 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,392 tons, 12.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 128 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 3,051 tons, 27.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,992 tons, 27.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,515 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 525 tons, 4.8 %
      - Hull above water: 225 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 250 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,073 lbs / 6,383 Kg = 130.3 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.47
   Metacentric height 5.6 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 12.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.12
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.503 / 0.512
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.86 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.85 ft / 6.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,053 Square feet or 1,863 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs/sq ft or 475 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.53
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Darman

How much would it cost the Ottomans to purchase 2 of these?

snip

Cressy, United Kingdom First Class Cruiser laid down 1898

Displacement:
   10,980 t light; 11,413 t standard; 12,551 t normal; 13,462 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (440.00 ft / 440.00 ft) x 69.50 ft x (26.00 / 27.49 ft)
   (134.11 m / 134.11 m) x 21.18 m  x (7.92 / 8.38 m)

Armament:
      2 - 9.20" / 234 mm 40.0 cal guns - 380.00lbs / 172.37kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2,110 lbs / 957 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   294.80 ft / 89.86 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   145.18 ft / 44.25 m   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   294.80 ft / 89.86 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      53.0" / 1,346 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,000 ihp / 16,412 Kw = 21.02 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,049 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   592 - 770

Cost:
   £1.002 million / $4.009 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 375 tons, 3.0 %
      - Guns: 375 tons, 3.0 %
   Armour: 3,562 tons, 28.4 %
      - Belts: 1,963 tons, 15.6 %
      - Armament: 470 tons, 3.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,059 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 70 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 3,548 tons, 28.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,269 tons, 26.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,571 tons, 12.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 225 tons, 1.8 %
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 175 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,759 lbs / 6,695 Kg = 37.9 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 12.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.24
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.96

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.553 / 0.560
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.98 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Forward deck:   50.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   17.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      21.12 ft / 6.44 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 21,392 Square feet or 1,987 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 502 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.46
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

Quote from: Darman on September 26, 2012, 09:41:09 PM
How much would it cost the Ottomans to purchase 2 of these?

The way it is working out, Im going to have lots of leftover cash and no BP. Maintenance costs will correct this after game start.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Darman

I thought it was supposed to be the the way around?