Galendan Navy

[Walter]

Might want to check the main guns on the Cumbria, the layout is a bit messed up.

Must have slipped through while I was busy with the other guns... :-[

I love that pic

Scharnhorst? Yes, a nice picture of a nice ship. :)

You'll probably recognize this one right away without having to check the name of the picture file.  :D

Saxony, Galendan Battleship laid down 1907


Displacement:
   16,023 t light; 17,054 t standard; 18,103 t normal; 18,942 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (476.00 ft / 476.00 ft) x 85.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.01 ft)
   (145.08 m / 145.08 m) x 25.91 m  x (8.23 / 8.54 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 9.00" / 229 mm 40.0 cal guns - 349.34lbs / 158.46kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1907 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      16 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1907 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      40 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm 58.0 cal guns - 0.04lbs / 0.02kg shells, 800 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1907 Model
     4 x 2 row decuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 8,022 lbs / 3,639 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   310.00 ft / 94.49 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   166.00 ft / 50.60 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
   Upper:   8.00" / 203 mm   310.00 ft / 94.49 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      2.00" / 51 mm   310.00 ft / 94.49 m   26.00 ft / 7.92 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 75.00 ft / 22.86 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   7.00" / 178 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 22,708 ihp / 16,940 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,888 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   779 - 1,014

Cost:
   £1.605 million / $6.419 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,658 tons, 9.2 %
      - Guns: 1,658 tons, 9.2 %
   Armour: 6,742 tons, 37.2 %
      - Belts: 2,949 tons, 16.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 596 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armament: 1,438 tons, 7.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,462 tons, 8.1 %
      - Conning Towers: 297 tons, 1.6 %
   Machinery: 2,498 tons, 13.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,024 tons, 27.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,080 tons, 11.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21,426 lbs / 9,719 Kg = 24.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 14.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.33

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.580 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Forward deck:   50.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Aft deck:   15.00 %,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m,  9.50 ft / 2.90 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.99 ft / 4.57 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 29,043 Square feet or 2,698 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 723 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.71
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Jefgte]

12 - 9.00" / 229 mm 40.0 cal guns - 349.34lbs / 158.46kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread


;)

[Walter]

:o
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... I will fix that one tomorrow. I need to sleep now... -_-;;

[snip]

*reworks the Faiths to be faster* Need more speed to counter these boats.

[Walter]

Those are actually the slower boats. ;D

[snip]

*is very thankful for the fist Capital ship that he has planed*

[KWorld]

I think the rule is that no "strengthened torpedo bulkheads" can be used, because they seem to have some math issues.  It's possible that it's the same "save first, then they're OK" type thing that torpedoes and DCs have, but we haven't checked that yet.

[Walter]

Hmmm... I thought I had thrown that one off completely... Need to fix that as well when I get back home.

When it was mentioned earlier, I checked it and as far as I could see, it does not add anything even if you reload it. You can also see that I forgot about it since the main belt and upper belt are both 310 feet long while the tbh is 309.4 feet long (and with a normal armor layout, I always use the same length for main/upper belt and tbh).

[Walter]

Should be correct now.

[KWorld]

Might want to check the Moltke's casemate layout, there's a lot of guns being fit into the forward end of the ship there.

[Carthaginian]

Might want to check the Moltke's casemate layout, there's a lot of guns being fit into the forward end of the ship there.

Nah, all the casemates are just on the forward part of the break.
Considering that is 70% of the ships length...

[Walter]

Nah, all the casemates are just on the forward part of the break.
Considering that is 70% of the ships length...

Quite right. From what I understand, the borderline between foredeck and aft deck in SS is determined by the midbreak, so if it is as far back as 70% (which is actually a bit of a guess), the majority of the weapons will be located in front of the midbreak instead of behind it. When you look at the linedrawing of the Diadem (which I based the Moltke on), you will see that with the exception of a pair of 6" guns and a pair of 12 pounders, everything is in front of the mid break.

[Walter]

River, Galendan Destroyer laid down 1903


Displacement:
   680 t light; 698 t standard; 785 t normal; 854 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (232.00 ft / 232.00 ft) x 23.50 ft x (10.50 / 11.18 ft)
   (70.71 m / 70.71 m) x 7.16 m  x (3.20 / 3.41 m)

Armament:
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm 58.0 cal guns - 0.04lbs / 0.02kg shells, 800 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mount, 1903 Model
     1 x 2 row decuple mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      Weight of broadside 29 lbs / 13 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 18.1" / 460 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 0.798 t each, 1.597 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, reciprocating cruising steam engines and steam turbines
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,386 ihp / 9,240 Kw = 26.50 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 156 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   73 - 96

Cost:
   £0.094 million / $0.376 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 8 tons, 1.0 %
      - Guns: 6 tons, 0.7 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 489 tons, 62.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 163 tons, 20.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 105 tons, 13.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 2.5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     154 lbs / 70 Kg = 11.4 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.07
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.480 / 0.491
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.23 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.70 ft / 3.26 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 203.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,568 Square feet or 331 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 23 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 107 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.12
      - Overall: 0.58
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Top Speed: 28 knots

[Walter]

Arthur, Galendan Light Cruiser laid down 1905


Displacement:
   4,228 t light; 4,413 t standard; 5,034 t normal; 5,530 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (450.00 ft / 450.00 ft) x 47.00 ft x (17.00 / 18.24 ft)
   (137.16 m / 137.16 m) x 14.33 m  x (5.18 / 5.56 m)

Armament:
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 114.33lbs / 51.86kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      20 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm 58.0 cal guns - 0.04lbs / 0.02kg shells, 800 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x 2 row decuple mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,001 lbs / 454 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 18.1" / 460 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 0.862 t each, 1.723 t total
   In 3 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   385.00 ft / 117.35 m   8.23 ft / 2.51 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm     65.00 ft / 19.81 m   8.23 ft / 2.51 m
     Main Belt covers 132 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19,596 shp / 14,619 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,117 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   298 - 388

Cost:
   £0.476 million / $1.902 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 289 tons, 5.7 %
      - Guns: 287 tons, 5.7 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 708 tons, 14.1 %
      - Belts: 412 tons, 8.2 %
      - Armament: 58 tons, 1.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 212 tons, 4.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1,617 tons, 32.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,555 tons, 30.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 805 tons, 16.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 1.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,884 lbs / 1,762 Kg = 36.0 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 13.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 85 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.43

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.490 / 0.502
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.21 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.48 ft / 4.41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 122.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,965 Square feet or 1,297 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 77 lbs/sq ft or 374 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Walter]

Albatross, Galedan Minelayer laid down 1905


Displacement:
   2,086 t light; 2,151 t standard; 2,480 t normal; 2,744 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (324.82 ft / 316.00 ft) x 37.00 ft x (15.00 / 16.19 ft)
   (99.01 m / 96.32 m) x 11.28 m  x (4.57 / 4.93 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 32.28lbs / 14.64kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      20 - 0.45" / 11.4 mm 58.0 cal guns - 0.04lbs / 0.02kg shells, 800 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x 2 row decuple mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 187 lbs / 85 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7,110 ihp / 5,304 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 592 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   175 - 228

Cost:
   £0.227 million / $0.909 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 32 tons, 1.3 %
      - Guns: 32 tons, 1.3 %
   Armour: 9 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armament: 9 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,030 tons, 41.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 714 tons, 28.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 395 tons, 15.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 12.1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,601 lbs / 726 Kg = 50.0 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
   Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.495 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.54 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.78 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m,  13.60 ft / 4.15 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.79 ft / 4.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 138.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 7,755 Square feet or 720 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 52 lbs/sq ft or 256 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.31
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather