N4.5 Rules Question/Comment thread

[Delta Force]

Carthaginian, I think you inadvertently edited your response into the bottom of my post instead of quoting.

[Carthaginian]

(b)   a vessel with no more than two guns of 5"/120mm, and which mounts an equal or greater number of secondary guns greater than 3"/76mm.

You are bang on with one of the reasons that why we don't have any aircraft on ships.

The metric measurement is a mistake.
When Metric and Imperial are in disagreement, then my conversion is in error and IMPERIAL units are right.

[Delta Force]

Where are the rules for starting fleets and the start date itself? I've looked in the rules thread and all over the site but have not been able to find this. Some people have 1920s ships up but I was thinking we were starting in 1910.

[Carthaginian]

Treaty states 1910.
Original discussion was 1920, but 1910 is the start date.

Starting fleet - 500,000 tons.

[Delta Force]

Treaty states 1910.
Original discussion was 1920, but 1910 is the start date.

Starting fleet - 500,000 tons.

What about tonnage for specific ship types and dates of construction?

[Carthaginian]

Treaty states 1910.
Original discussion was 1920, but 1910 is the start date.

Starting fleet - 500,000 tons.

What about tonnage for specific ship types and dates of construction?

Your nation has a production figure.
Don't go over.
Please note that 100% of everything isn't posted yet. We are still working a bit.
Draw up your fleet on the assumption of Snips indicated production capacity and a 500,000 ton limit.

[Delta Force]

Treaty states 1910.
Original discussion was 1920, but 1910 is the start date.

Starting fleet - 500,000 tons.

What about tonnage for specific ship types and dates of construction?

Your nation has a production figure.
Don't go over.
Please note that 100% of everything isn't posted yet. We are still working a bit.
Draw up your fleet on the assumption of Snips indicated production capacity and a 500,000 ton limit.

I've found where the 500,000 ton limit is talked about, but where can we find the production capacity information? Manually looking and search function hasn't shown anything.

[Walter]

It can be found here: http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5791.msg75280.html#msg75280
Download the pdf file. On page 5, it says that we all have 32 Military Factories at the start. Each MF can produce 1 Production Point which equals 1,000 tons shipping materials for building ships, so if you use all factories for shipping materials, you would end up with 32,000 tons. Of course, you can't actually use all that for building ships since you would also need some PPs to produce land and air units if you want to expand them and use PPs to pay for the maintenance of all units.

[Delta Force]

It can be found here: http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5791.msg75280.html#msg75280
Download the pdf file. On page 5, it says that we all have 32 Military Factories at the start. Each MF can produce 1 Production Point which equals 1,000 tons shipping materials for building ships, so if you use all factories for shipping materials, you would end up with 32,000 tons. Of course, you can't actually use all that for building ships since you would also need some PPs to produce land and air units if you want to expand them and use PPs to pay for the maintenance of all units.

Thanks for helping out with that. I have been on that page and scrolled past that post dozens of times. It's been hiding in plain sight quite well.

[Walter]

Yes. Very suspicious that it was hidden that way.  ;D

[snip]

*emeges from cloud of dust*
moving apartments this weekend *cough* will get the revised document posted one I have a chance to go over it with Carth

[Jefgte]

"500 000t from 1910 to 1920..."

Why not 50 000t per year to have regular SS progression ?


Jef

[Walter]

1910-1920? From what I understand from the rules, Turn 0 is 15 years, not 10 years (originally from 1905 to 1920, not 1910-1920). I guess that Jef wants a bigger fleet. :)

[snip]

the years at 1895 to 1910, so fifteen years. The 1920 dates are an artifact of an earlier draft.

[Darman]

I'm glad its 1895 because that is when my first ships are being designed from