Croatoan General Fleet

[Carthaginian]

:)I'll take two.:)

[Valles]

Depends on what the revised starting tonnage allowance ends up being. For the original version, we'd probably end up seeing fourteen or so of the class.

[Carthaginian]

Well, recall, the oldest ships in play at the time the game starts will be laid down in 1895.

[Valles]

*opens mouth*

*pauses*

*doublechecks*

...damned typos.

This ended up as a much smaller ship than I'd really intended.

Ah, well.


Hand, Croatoa Ship of the Line laid down 1895

Displacement:
   10,234 t light; 10,839 t standard; 11,543 t normal; 12,106 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (364.17 ft / 360.89 ft) x 65.62 ft x (26.25 / 27.33 ft)
   (111.00 m / 110.00 m) x 20.00 m  x (8.00 / 8.33 m)

Armament:
      3 - 10.83" / 275 mm 40.0 cal guns - 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 190 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      30 - 3.94" / 100 mm 40.0 cal guns - 33.07lbs / 15.00kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     30 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      10 raised mounts
      10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 2,976 lbs / 1,350 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   269.03 ft / 82.00 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm     91.86 ft / 28.00 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   164.04 ft / 50.00 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 9.84" / 250 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20,000 ihp / 14,920 Kw = 20.11 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,267 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   556 - 723

Cost:
   £1.022 million / $4.088 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 505 tons, 4.4 %
      - Guns: 505 tons, 4.4 %
   Armour: 3,420 tons, 29.6 %
      - Belts: 2,085 tons, 18.1 %
      - Armament: 496 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 622 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Towers: 217 tons, 1.9 %
   Machinery: 3,390 tons, 29.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,769 tons, 24.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,309 tons, 11.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1.3 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,725 lbs / 3,958 Kg = 13.7 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.19

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.650 / 0.655
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   65.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 113.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,141 Square feet or 1,685 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 542 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.56
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Laid down 3895, refitted and regunned 3905

[Carthaginian]

Not sure there's room for thirty secondary guns- I'd have to see it drawn out.
Kinda makes me wonder how she'd fare against one of my planned CBB's...

http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5790.msg75422.html#msg75422

[Valles]

I think that there should be - it's the same footprint as the 20 gun battery, just stacked in three decks rather than two.

And probably not that well. The intent is that ships like this be obsolete for a reason, after all.

[snip]

ok, good. Im not the only one trying to stack guns into tripple-deck casemates

[Jefgte]

Shells hoists installation is an interresting challenge for the engineers.

Jef

[Valles]

There are three underwater decks to put magazine rooms on. I figure that the bottom magazines will feed to the bottom guns, middle to the middle with that hoist next to and just aft of the first hoist, and so on.