Nova Francia Fleet

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SS	technos	TYPE	NORMAL DISP.	ships Qty	total tonnage	Tonnage Fleet	DIM	ARMAMENT	SPEED & RANGE	ARMOR
ok	1895	Patrol Gunboat	1000t	16	16000		58x11,6x2,56	4x100	16kts-5000nm/12kts	bow-20mm
ok	1896	Gunboat	2500t	6	15000		96x13,7x3,69	4x140+6x100	18kts-5000nm/12kts	bow-20mm
	1897	Cruiser Lome class	8000t max	4	32000			4T1x164+8x140	21kts-5000nm/12kts
	1898	Liberté class BB	15000t	4	60000			2T2x305+12x140	18kts-5000nm/12kts
	1899	light Cruisers	60000t max	6	36000			8x140	21kts-5000nm/12kts
					159000	159000
	1900	light Cruisers	60000t max	4	24000			8x140	21kts-5000nm/12kts
	1901	Armored Cruiser	12500t	4	50000			6T1x240+8x140	21kts-5000nm/12kts
	1902	Coastal Defender	6500t max	4	26000			2T2x240+8x140	16kts-5000nm/12kts
	1903	Torpedo boat	1000t max	24	24000			3x75+4TTx450	27kts-5000nm/12kts
	1904	Danton class BB	18000t max	2	36000			2T2x305+4T2x240	21kts-5000nm/12kts
					160000	160000
	1905	Armored Cruiser	15000t max	2	30000			6T2x240+8x140	21kts-5000nm/12kts
	1906	Cruiser Dupleix	8000t max	4	32000			4T2x164	25kts-5000nm/12kts
	1907	Torpedo Boat (Chasseur)	1500t	12	18000			3x100+4TTx450	27kts-5000nm/12kts
	1907	Patrol Gunboat	500t	20	10000			3x100	16kts-5000nm/12kts
	1908	Courbet class BB	20000t max	2	40000			6T2x305-Study5	21kts-5000nm/12kts
	1909	BC	20000t max	2	40000			4T2x305	27kts-5000nm/12kts
					170000	170000
						489000

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Here is the 1st class of Armored cruiser for Nova Francia
Plan update from 8000 to 8500t.

Delome, Nova Francia 8500t-AC laid down 1897

Displacement:
   7 197 t light; 7 499 t standard; 8 500 t normal; 9 301 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (442.92 ft / 436.35 ft) x 65.61 ft x (18.07 / 19.44 ft)
   (135.00 m / 133.00 m) x 20.00 m  x (5.51 / 5.93 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.76lbs / 102.40kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.76lbs / 102.40kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      8 - 5.50" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 83.91lbs / 38.06kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 575 lbs / 714 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.628 t each, 2.513 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.95" / 100 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   9.20 ft / 2.80 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     60.00 ft / 18.29 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     26.35 ft / 8.03 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1.57" / 40 mm     59.07 ft / 18.00 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      3.95" / 100 mm
   2nd:   4.72" / 120 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      3.95" / 100 mm
   3rd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.40" / 10 mm      1.57" / 40 mm
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.99" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.99" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 17 554 ihp / 13 095 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 802 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   442 - 575

Cost:
   £0.772 million / $3.087 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 359 tons, 4.2 %
      - Guns: 355 tons, 4.2 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 1 362 tons, 16.0 %
      - Belts: 609 tons, 7.2 %
      - Armament: 205 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 548 tons, 6.4 %
   Machinery: 2 878 tons, 33.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 489 tons, 29.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 303 tons, 15.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 110 tons, 1.3 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 124 lbs / 3 232 Kg = 31.8 x 7.7 " / 194 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.58
   Metacentric height 5.7 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 11.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 91 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.63

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.89 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.65 ft / 6.60 m,  19.68 ft / 6.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  14.43 ft / 4.40 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  14.43 ft / 4.40 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.13 ft / 4.92 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 123.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 20 454 Square feet or 1 900 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 94 lbs/sq ft or 459 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.49
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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In 1898, 4 battleships of the Liberté class are laid down.
in 1899 & 1900, Nova Francia start to built 10 light cruisers of the Othuau class.
They carry 10x140mm guns at 21kts on a 5500t hull.

Othuau, Nova Francia Light Cruiser laid down 1899

Displacement:
   4 563 t light; 4 763 t standard; 5 500 t normal; 6 089 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.00 ft / 388.00 ft) x 59.07 ft x (16.31 / 17.64 ft)
   (119.79 m / 118.26 m) x 18.00 m  x (4.97 / 5.38 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 899 lbs / 408 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.748 t each, 2.993 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   347.00 ft / 105.77 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   0.99" / 25 mm     20.00 ft / 6.10 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     21.00 ft / 6.40 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 138 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.57" / 40 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 0.99" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13 639 ihp / 10 175 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 325 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   319 - 415

Cost:
   £0.515 million / $2.060 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 193 tons, 3.5 %
      - Guns: 189 tons, 3.4 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 581 tons, 10.6 %
      - Belts: 328 tons, 6.0 %
      - Armament: 33 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 220 tons, 4.0 %
   Machinery: 2 165 tons, 39.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 544 tons, 28.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 937 tons, 17.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1.5 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 70 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4 318 lbs / 1 959 Kg = 51.9 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.87
   Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 9.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 84 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.69

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.515 / 0.527
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.70 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  18.05 ft / 5.50 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  14.12 ft / 4.30 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  14.12 ft / 4.30 m,  14.12 ft / 4.30 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  14.12 ft / 4.30 m,  14.12 ft / 4.30 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.87 ft / 4.53 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 137.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 15 482 Square feet or 1 438 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 368 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.65
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

6 cruisers in 1899 & 4 cruisers in 1900

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To complete the first part of the Fleet (1895-1900-166.000t)
20x500t Torpedo boat are in the plan.
They are made to protect the coast vs an enemy Fleet, close straits or raids in archipelago...
Note the good seaboat quality to maintain high speed in heavy sea.
The bow is reinforced by light 15mm armor to protect vs big sea predators collision.

TB, Nova Francia TB500t laid down 1896

Displacement:
   430 t light; 443 t standard; 500 t normal; 546 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (225.00 ft / 220.00 ft) x 26.00 ft x (7.65 / 8.10 ft)
   (68.58 m / 67.06 m) x 7.92 m  x (2.33 / 2.47 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.97lbs / 5.88kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.608 t each, 1.215 t total
   In 1 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      Mines
      24 - 500.00 lbs / 226.80 kg mines - 5.357 t total
   in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   0.60" / 15 mm     8.00 ft / 2.44 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     212.00 ft / 64.62 m Unarmoured ends

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 125 ihp / 4 569 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 1 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 102 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   52 - 68

Cost:
   £0.057 million / $0.230 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 13 tons, 2.7 %
      - Guns: 5 tons, 1.1 %
      - Weapons: 8 tons, 1.6 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 0.8 %
      - Belts: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 292 tons, 58.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 108 tons, 21.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 70 tons, 14.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 2.4 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 4 tons
      - Above deck: 4 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     121 lbs / 55 Kg = 9.4 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.64
   Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 8.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.05
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.04

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.412
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   16.00 %,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m
      - Aft deck:   34.00 %,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m,  8.85 ft / 2.70 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.26 ft / 2.82 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 192.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 521 Square feet or 327 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 94 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.46
      - Longitudinal: 1.14
      - Overall: 0.50
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[KWorld]

On the Othau's,

2 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread

Centerline casemates?  Are you..... sure?


On the TBs, cross-sectional strength has to be at least 0.50, so there's some more work to do there.

[Jefgte]

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2 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread



Centerline casemates?  Are you..... sure?

For the moment, 140 in casemate, They could be change to T1x164...

Jef

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Corrections on the 1896 TB

TB, Nova Francia TB500t laid down 1896

Displacement:
   433 t light; 447 t standard; 500 t normal; 543 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (225.00 ft / 220.00 ft) x 26.70 ft x (7.45 / 7.86 ft)
   (68.58 m / 67.06 m) x 8.14 m  x (2.27 / 2.40 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.96lbs / 5.88kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.608 t each, 1.215 t total
   In 1 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      Mines
      20 - 500.00 lbs / 226.80 kg mines - 4.464 t total
   in Above water - Stern racks/rails

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   0.60" / 15 mm     8.00 ft / 2.44 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     212.00 ft / 64.62 m Unarmoured ends

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 154 ihp / 4 591 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 1 400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 96 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   52 - 68

Cost:
   £0.058 million / $0.231 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 2.5 %
      - Guns: 5 tons, 1.1 %
      - Weapons: 7 tons, 1.4 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 0.8 %
      - Belts: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 294 tons, 58.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 121 tons, 24.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 67 tons, 13.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 0.4 %
      - On freeboard deck: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     136 lbs / 62 Kg = 10.6 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.63
   Metacentric height 1.6 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 9.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.05
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.04

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.411
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m
      - Aft deck:   32.00 %,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m,  9.18 ft / 2.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.57 ft / 2.92 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 192.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 616 Square feet or 336 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 103 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.30
      - Overall: 0.55
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Jefgte]

Last update in the 1895-1899 Plan

technos	TYPE	NORMAL DISP.	ships Qty	total tonnage	Tonnage Fleet	DIM	ARMAMENT	SPEED & RANGE	ARMOR
1895	PB-850t	850t	20	17000		58x11,6x2,56	2x75	16kts-3000nm/12kts	bow-15mm
1896	GB-Conquérant class	3000t	6	18000		96x13,7x3,69	4x140+6x75	18kts-5000nm/12kts	bow-15mm
1896	TB-500t	500t	20	10000		68.6x8.14x2.27	2x75+20minen+4TTx450	24kts-1400nm/12kts	bow-15mm
1897	AC-Delome class	8500t	4	34000		133x19x5.56	6T1x194+8x140+8x47	21kts-5000nm/12kts	belt 100
1898	BB-Liberté class	13750t	4	55000		129.8x22.4x7.8	2T2x305+12x140+8x75+8x47	18kts-5000nm/12kts	belt230
1899	CL-Othuau class	5400t	6	32400		119x18x4.98	8x140+4x47	21kts-5000nm/12kts	belt75
				166400	166400

I have add to my ships the French military mast with 47mm guns

[Jefgte]

20x850t PB are the older ships in the navy



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Jef

[KWorld]

Hmmm, the spreadsheet and the picture disagree on the armament of these......

[Jefgte]

the spreadsheet and the picture disagree on the armament of these

Where ?

[KWorld]

The spreadsheet right above the picture says the armament of the 1895 PB-850 is 4x100mm, the picture says the armament is 2x75mm + 4x47mm.

[Jefgte]

Your right, I have reduce original PB from 1000t-4x100 to 850t-2x75+4x47.
I think that 1000t is exessive for a PB.

I have decided to instal military mast with 47mm guns to have a typical look.
47mm are useful to counter TB & to kil directly big seapredators.

Jef  ;)

[Jefgte]

Other Building Plan options

CB-20 000t	2
BB-18000 to 20000t	4
BB-13000t	4
AC-7500t to 7900t	12
AC-12000t to 15000t	6
CL-5000t	10
DD-950t to 1250t	44
TB-500t	20
GB-3000t	6
PB-850t to 500t	40
Total	148

Note, 7000t-7700t ACs were originaly 6500t coastal BBs.
They change from Coastal BBs to ACs in the Treaty classement just to have 18 to 21kts  speed.

Jef

[Jefgte]

Differences between the first ACs & the Coastal BBs are not important so, Nova Francia choose to mixt the 2 concepts to have a 18kts well armed & protected AC. she could be classed now as an Escort Cruiser class.

Classe Capitaines, Nova Francia 7900t Escort Cruiser laid down 1896

Displacement:
   6 869 t light; 7 246 t standard; 7 900 t normal; 8 423 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (392.15 ft / 387.15 ft) x 65.62 ft x (18.14 / 19.13 ft)
   (119.53 m / 118.00 m) x 20.00 m  x (5.53 / 5.83 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 425.56lbs / 193.03kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1896 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
                 En echelon - ala Pothuau
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.96lbs / 5.88kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 52.0 cal guns - 3.38lbs / 1.53kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts on military masts
      8 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 732 lbs / 1 239 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.608 t each, 2.430 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   251.97 ft / 76.80 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
   Ends:   1.95" / 50 mm     80.00 ft / 24.38 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     55.18 ft / 16.82 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1.95" / 50 mm   251.97 ft / 76.80 m   6.56 ft / 2.00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   3.95" / 100 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   1.95" / 50 mm         -         1.95" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.95" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 0.99" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.99" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 6.30" / 160 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9 808 ihp / 7 317 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 177 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   418 - 544

Cost:
   £0.688 million / $2.751 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 669 tons, 8.5 %
      - Guns: 666 tons, 8.4 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 2 184 tons, 27.6 %
      - Belts: 1 110 tons, 14.0 %
      - Armament: 343 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 609 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 121 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 1 635 tons, 20.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 262 tons, 28.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 031 tons, 13.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 1.5 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 512 lbs / 4 315 Kg = 22.5 x 9.5 " / 240 mm shells or 3.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.45
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 12.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.60

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.607
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.90 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  17.05 ft / 5.20 m,  17.05 ft / 5.20 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.71 ft / 4.18 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 581 Square feet or 1 726 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 518 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.65
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather