CSA Battlecruisers

Delta Force · February 28, 2011, 03:12:13 PM

So, seeing as the CSA actually does have the shipyard capacity to build battlecruisers, I decided to design one. I actually designed two of them, one is a more balanced battlecruiser design, while the other is a Fisherite design and manages to squeeze out 1.3 more knots in top speed with a good bit less armor.

Balanced Design

CSA Battlecruiser, CSA Battlecruiser laid down 1920

Displacement:
   41,252 t light; 43,661 t standard; 47,820 t normal; 51,147 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   872.70 ft / 872.70 ft x 105.32 ft (Bulges 111.88 ft) x 31.17 ft (normal load)
   266.00 m / 266.00 m x 32.10 m (Bulges 34.10 m) x 9.50 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns (8x2 guns), 75.00lbs / 34.02kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 2.00lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 17,208 lbs / 7,805 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   652.00 ft / 198.73 m   16.50 ft / 5.03 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1.00" / 25 mm   652.00 ft / 198.73 m   27.10 ft / 8.26 m

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 257,495 shp / 192,091 Kw = 34.00 kts
   Range 18,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7,487 tons

Complement:
   1,616 - 2,101

Cost:
   £10.075 million / $40.299 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,855 tons, 3.9 %
   Armour: 10,798 tons, 22.6 %
     - Belts: 3,565 tons, 7.5 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 654 tons, 1.4 %
     - Armament: 2,679 tons, 5.6 %
     - Armour Deck: 3,560 tons, 7.4 %
     - Conning Tower: 341 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 9,003 tons, 18.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 19,095 tons, 39.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,568 tons, 13.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     55,458 lbs / 25,155 Kg = 32.9 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 6.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 7.9 ft / 2.4 m
   Roll period: 16.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      32.48 ft / 9.90 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Mid (50 %):      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Stern:      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Average freeboard:   25.24 ft / 7.69 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 186.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 64,142 Square feet or 5,959 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 206 lbs/sq ft or 1,003 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Fisherite Design

CSA Fisherite Battlecruiser, CSA Battlecruiser laid down 1920

Displacement:
   41,252 t light; 43,661 t standard; 47,820 t normal; 51,147 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   872.70 ft / 872.70 ft x 105.32 ft (Bulges 111.88 ft) x 31.17 ft (normal load)
   266.00 m / 266.00 m x 32.10 m (Bulges 34.10 m) x 9.50 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns (8x2 guns), 75.00lbs / 34.02kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 2.00lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 17,208 lbs / 7,805 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   720.00 ft / 219.46 m   16.50 ft / 5.03 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 127 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1.00" / 25 mm   720.00 ft / 219.46 m   27.10 ft / 8.26 m

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm   1.50" / 38 mm      1.50" / 38 mm

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 299,585 shp / 223,490 Kw = 35.30 kts
   Range 18,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7,487 tons

Complement:
   1,616 - 2,101

Cost:
   £10.562 million / $42.247 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,855 tons, 3.9 %
   Armour: 9,239 tons, 19.3 %
     - Belts: 2,901 tons, 6.1 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 722 tons, 1.5 %
     - Armament: 1,773 tons, 3.7 %
     - Armour Deck: 3,560 tons, 7.4 %
     - Conning Tower: 284 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 10,475 tons, 21.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 19,183 tons, 40.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,568 tons, 13.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     51,331 lbs / 23,283 Kg = 30.4 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 5.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 8.4 ft / 2.6 m
   Roll period: 16.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      32.48 ft / 9.90 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   26.57 ft / 8.10 m
     - Mid (50 %):      26.57 ft / 8.10 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   26.57 ft / 8.10 m
     - Stern:      26.57 ft / 8.10 m
     - Average freeboard:   27.05 ft / 8.24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 200.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 64,142 Square feet or 5,959 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 203 lbs/sq ft or 993 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.22
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

ctwaterman · February 28, 2011, 03:22:08 PM

Before I comment on the Designs which will take more time. The CSA and a bunch of other states sort of came to an agreement. No nation may have more then 2 Ships totaling 40K Tons Light Displacement with a 10% Error Clause. So your 41K ton ships would violate that agreement.

TexanCowboy · February 28, 2011, 03:48:51 PM

1% slack room...

Delta Force · February 28, 2011, 04:23:18 PM

I modified the ship to make it meet the limit. What do you think about it now?

CSA Battlecruiser, CSA Battlecruiser laid down 1920

Displacement:
   40,396 t light; 42,805 t standard; 47,820 t normal; 51,832 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   872.70 ft / 872.70 ft x 105.32 ft (Bulges 111.88 ft) x 31.17 ft (normal load)
   266.00 m / 266.00 m x 32.10 m (Bulges 34.10 m) x 9.50 m

Armament:
8 - 15.00" / 381 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns (8x2 guns), 75.00lbs / 34.02kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 1.58" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 2.00lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 17,208 lbs / 7,805 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   650.00 ft / 198.12 m   16.50 ft / 5.03 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      0.80" / 20 mm   650.00 ft / 198.12 m   27.10 ft / 8.26 m

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 257,495 shp / 192,091 Kw = 34.00 kts
   Range 21,930nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 9,027 tons

Complement:
   1,616 - 2,101

Cost:
   £10.004 million / $40.015 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,855 tons, 3.9 %
   Armour: 10,212 tons, 21.4 %
     - Belts: 3,111 tons, 6.5 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 521 tons, 1.1 %
     - Armament: 2,679 tons, 5.6 %
     - Armour Deck: 3,560 tons, 7.4 %
     - Conning Tower: 341 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 9,003 tons, 18.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,925 tons, 39.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7,424 tons, 15.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     55,553 lbs / 25,198 Kg = 32.9 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 6.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 8.0 ft / 2.4 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      32.48 ft / 9.90 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Mid (50 %):      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Stern:      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Average freeboard:   25.24 ft / 7.69 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 186.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 64,142 Square feet or 5,959 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 204 lbs/sq ft or 994 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.10
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

ctwaterman · February 28, 2011, 04:39:32 PM

Ok...

1. Engine tech limitations of 40,000 HP per Shaft your ship has over 60k Hp per shaft.

2. Jackie Fisher would have been proud Egg Shell armed with Sledge Hammer

Other then those its not a bad ship its faster then anything else afloat because its engines are so much larger then anyone elses more SHP per shaft then anyone else by 50%.

TexanCowboy · February 28, 2011, 05:18:42 PM

Just one thing...

QuoteEnter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1922

Displacement:
40,343 t light; 42,298 t standard; 45,308 t normal; 47,716 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
799.17 ft / 793.96 ft x 107.94 ft x 30.84 ft (normal load)
243.59 m / 242.00 m x 32.90 m x 9.40 m

Armament:
8 - 15.75" / 400 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,204.62lbs / 1,000.00kg shells, 1922 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns (4x3 guns), 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1922 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all aft, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm guns in single mounts, 8.38lbs / 3.80kg shells, 1922 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1922 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 18,681 lbs / 8,474 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 465.88 ft / 142.00 m 16.01 ft / 4.88 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 543.31 ft / 165.60 m 29.07 ft / 8.86 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15.7" / 400 mm 9.84" / 250 mm 15.0" / 380 mm
3rd: 2.95" / 75 mm - -
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 142,000 shp / 105,932 Kw = 29.05 kts
Range 20,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 5,418 tons)

Complement:
1,552 - 2,018

Cost:
£10.463 million / $41.851 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,083 tons, 4.6 %
Armour: 14,981 tons, 33.1 %
- Belts: 4,524 tons, 10.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,150 tons, 2.5 %
- Armament: 4,364 tons, 9.6 %
- Armour Deck: 4,565 tons, 10.1 %
- Conning Tower: 377 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 4,817 tons, 10.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 17,912 tons, 39.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,965 tons, 11.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 550 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
51,994 lbs / 23,584 Kg = 26.6 x 15.7 " / 400 mm shells or 7.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 6.5 ft / 2.0 m
Roll period: 17.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.36 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Forecastle (16 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Mid (75 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m (16.73 ft / 5.10 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Stern: 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Average freeboard: 22.95 ft / 7.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180.5 %
Waterplane Area: 62,680 Square feet or 5,823 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 209 lbs/sq ft or 1,019 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.26
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ah, the fresh smell of boomboom in the morning ;).

Delta Force · February 28, 2011, 05:31:18 PM

Reading the CSA tech list, it said that 1917 technology gave unlimited power per shaft. If that isn't the case, any advice on how I could go about reducing the HP per shaft or otherwise make this ship able to reach a speed of at least 32 knots?

snip · February 28, 2011, 06:07:14 PM

IIRC (which I may not as it was before my time here), the CSA tech list is an older one that should probably be moved over to the new rules (along with a few others)

On the ship itself, well I am an armor junky (almost worse then Valles ;D). Im not opposed to BCs, but I like the German style ones better. Aside from the already pointed out rules and treaty problems, your getting better. What I find helpful is to pick a historical design that is close to what I want and modify it to suit my needs. Do you have access to Conway's All the Worlds Fighting Ships?

Desertfox · February 28, 2011, 06:36:29 PM

*salivating* Now THAT is a manly battlecruiser! Armor is for sissies! ;D

Delta Force · February 28, 2011, 07:12:29 PM

Quote from: snip on February 28, 2011, 06:07:14 PM
IIRC (which I may not as it was before my time here), the CSA tech list is an older one that should probably be moved over to the new rules (along with a few others)

On the ship itself, well I am an armor junky (almost worse then Valles ;D). Im not opposed to BCs, but I like the German style ones better. Aside from the already pointed out rules and treaty problems, your getting better. What I find helpful is to pick a historical design that is close to what I want and modify it to suit my needs. Do you have access to Conway's All the Worlds Fighting Ships?

This is actually a CSA version of a Lexington, with about 70,000 more horsepower and torpedo blisters.

I am in favor of heavy armor myself, but I do love battlecruisers. They are the Rolls Royces of the navy, and far more impressive than the fast battleships because of what they have to give up for their speed.

TexanCowboy · February 28, 2011, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: Desertfox on February 28, 2011, 06:36:29 PM
*salivating* Now THAT is a manly battlecruiser! Armor is for sissies! ;D

Gran Columbia Design: Codename "Now that's a Swissman" :)

QuoteEnter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1920

Displacement:
   42,734 t light; 45,797 t standard; 66,343 t normal; 82,780 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   900.00 ft / 900.00 ft x 120.00 ft x 43.00 ft (normal load)
   274.32 m / 274.32 m x 36.58 m x 13.11 m

Armament:
2 - 31.50" / 800 mm guns in single mounts, 15,622.08lbs / 7,086.06kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 31,244 lbs / 14,172 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   80 - 25.6" / 650 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 5 shafts, 361,601 shp / 269,755 Kw = 35.50 kts
   Range 25,000nm at 20.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 36,983 tons

Complement:
   2,066 - 2,686

Cost:
   £15.473 million / $61.893 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3,906 tons, 5.9 %
   Machinery: 12,643 tons, 19.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 25,185 tons, 38.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23,609 tons, 35.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,000 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     60,249 lbs / 27,329 Kg = 3.9 x 31.5 " / 800 mm shells or 3.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.43
   Metacentric height 12.2 ft / 3.7 m
   Roll period: 14.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      33.00 ft / 10.06 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   27.00 ft / 8.23 m
     - Mid (50 %):      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
     - Stern:      21.00 ft / 6.40 m
     - Average freeboard:   24.88 ft / 7.58 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 39.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 71,958 Square feet or 6,685 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 239 lbs/sq ft or 1,164 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor

Logi · February 28, 2011, 08:13:29 PM

The problem is a 40.4 kton ship is a HUGE ship, you are only allowed to build two ships of 40 kton with 1% leeway under the Richmond Treaty.

Now that you have a 7" MB, that's just a huge national loss waiting to happen. You don't need to go 34 kts, I recommend dropping the speed a bit so you can at least have semi-decent armor.

I would consider a 32 kt design with better protection to be vastly better. Honestly speaking, 2 knots doesn't net much value in exchange for the golden twinky status.

Delta Force · February 28, 2011, 10:29:09 PM

Quote from: Logi on February 28, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
The problem is a 40.4 kton ship is a HUGE ship, you are only allowed to build two ships of 40 kton with 1% leeway under the Richmond Treaty.

Now that you have a 7" MB, that's just a huge national loss waiting to happen. You don't need to go 34 kts, I recommend dropping the speed a bit so you can at least have semi-decent armor.

I would consider a 32 kt design with better protection to be vastly better. Honestly speaking, 2 knots doesn't net much value in exchange for the golden twinky status.

Well, with it being overpowered anyways I will be working on the design tomorrow in order to bring total HP down to 160,000, increasing armor. It will thus become either a fairly high speed battlecruiser or a fast battleship. I will probably make a few lighter battlecruisers with very high speeds later on though.

Logi · March 01, 2011, 06:48:23 AM

8 X 15", isn't overpowered, it's somewhat underpowered for it's displacement vs. it's protection.

For that, it should either have even more firepower or more protection. :-\

Delta Force · March 01, 2011, 07:28:46 AM

I meant in terms of propulsion, not armament. It has twin 15 inch gun turrets because that is the largest gun and turret in the CSA, but I suppose I can always develop 16 or 18 inch guns for the ship. 15 inch guns are pretty good for their weight though, and I do think that armor is more important than more powerful guns. I'll have to see how much weight is added by the 16s and 18s, although 18s are pretty heavy for what they offer in real life and also from what I saw when toying around with my first Springsharp ship.