Design Bureau Guangzhou

[Logi]

It's armored 6" on probably 10 degrees inclined whereas this design is 10" on 20 degrees inclined...

Not to mention my design can fit in a type 2 dock whereas yours needs a type 3 dock.

I hardly think that's similar armor. Let's just face it; we have different approaches to the navy. You can afford raider-cruisers to escort your fast battleships whereas this is already the fast battleship.

BP constraints produces different designs, let's just admit that and move on. I doubt we'll ever agree on this.

[Tanthalas]

It's armored 6" on probably 10 degrees inclined whereas this design is 10" on 20 degrees inclined...

Your right its on a 10 deg. Incline (mostly because its period apropriat)

Not to mention my design can fit in a type 2 dock whereas yours needs a type 3 dock....

I have type 3's coming out my ears... why not use them?

I hardly think that's similar armor. Let's just face it; we have different approaches to the navy. You can afford raider-cruisers to escort your fast battleships whereas this is already the fast battleship.

Thats closer to a Heavy Cruiser but its not a fast BB, it just couldnt go toe to toe with ships like Asfaloth so why claim its in their class?

BP constraints produces different designs, let's just admit that and move on. I doubt we'll ever agree on this.

Yes they do and im not saying your wrong, simply that I think if you allowed yourself a small tonage increase you could do better, I have never said it was a bad ship Logi I do however think it could be alot better

[Logi]

I have type 3's coming out my ears... why not use them?

That's why I said its appropriate for your navy, not mine. I only have one type 3 dock.

Thats closer to a Heavy Cruiser but its not a fast BB, it just couldnt go toe to toe with ships like Asfaloth so why claim its in their class?

Maybe by your standards, by the RRC runs its ship classifications by its own standard. If we ran by European nation's standard there would be nothing even close to a BB in our fleet.

Yes they do and im not saying your wrong, simply that I think if you allowed yourself a small tonage increase you could do better, I have never said it was a bad ship Logi I do however think it could be alot better

Perhaps, the ship was originally 26ktons; I scaled by the ship to 17ktons. That tonnage increase isn't easy to swallow for the RRC.

[TexanCowboy]

Thats closer to a Heavy Cruiser but its not a fast BB, it just couldnt go toe to toe with ships like Asfaloth so why claim its in their class?

Maybe by your standards, by the RRC runs its ship classifications by its own standard. If we ran by European nation's standard there would be nothing even close to a BB in our fleet.

Actually, American standards.  ;D

[Tanthalas]

I just think a small increase in tonage would improve it alot (note I said small not like 9K or anything) maybe kick it up to like 18K and see what you can do.

[The Rock Doctor]

For its size, it's a pretty handy looking ship.  She's as fast or faster than any Iberian, DKB, or Swiss battlecruiser that I can think of, and has a good punch on her.  Armor isn't awesome, but is okay.

I'd suggest trimming the main belt down to 100% of normal - use the savings to bump miscellaneous weight up a little so you can have FC + long-range wireless + flag + torps + a bit of reserve.

I'd normally agree on the matter of torps, but if they're parked aft on the quarterdeck, they don't pose a huge risk to the rest of the ship and could be useful if she wants to get somebody off her tail.

[Logi]

Huangshan, RRC Battleship laid down 1920

Displacement:
   18,000 t light; 19,011 t standard; 20,086 t normal; 20,946 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.00 ft / 550.00 ft x 88.00 ft x 28.00 ft (normal load)
   169.77 m / 167.64 m x 26.82 m  x 8.53 m

Armament:
      6 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x3 guns), 1,650.00lbs / 748.43kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
     on centreline amidships
   Weight of broadside 10,769 lbs / 4,885 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   356.00 ft / 108.51 m   12.80 ft / 3.90 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   194.00 ft / 59.13 m   12.80 ft / 3.90 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 84,175 shp / 62,795 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,936 tons

Complement:
   843 - 1,096

Cost:
   £4.722 million / $18.887 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,138 tons, 5.7 %
   Armour: 4,878 tons, 24.3 %
      - Belts: 2,371 tons, 11.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,230 tons, 6.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,214 tons, 6.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 64 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 2,943 tons, 14.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,663 tons, 43.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,086 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 378 tons, 1.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     23,364 lbs / 10,598 Kg = 17.0 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.78
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.519
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.45 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.05 ft / 0.32 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Mid (60 %):      26.00 ft / 7.92 m (17.00 ft / 5.18 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Stern:      17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.88 ft / 6.97 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 32,808 Square feet or 3,048 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 178 lbs/sq ft or 867 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.55
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

[Tanthalas]

Much better, the belt is a little short for my tastes (as in verticly not horizontaly) but to each his own on that.

[Logi]

If I were to try to match out nation's "fast battleships" this is the product.

The gun arrangement is similar to the Dunkerque.  Armor is inclined at 20 degrees, no decapping plate this time. (Maybe I should....)

Steel Filler, RRC Fast Battleship laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   32,000 t light; 33,350 t standard; 35,162 t normal; 36,612 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721.00 ft / 721.00 ft x 103.00 ft x 28.00 ft (normal load)
   219.76 m / 219.76 m x 31.39 m  x 8.53 m

Armament:
      8 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x4 guns), 1,650.00lbs / 748.43kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (2x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all aft
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (1x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline aft
      12 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (6x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 14,323 lbs / 6,497 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   21.30 ft / 6.49 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   21.30 ft / 6.49 m
     1.00 ft / 0.30 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.00" / 51 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   28.00 ft / 8.53 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   9.00" / 229 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   5th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 109,339 shp / 81,567 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,262 tons

Complement:
   1,283 - 1,669

Cost:
   £6.460 million / $25.839 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,512 tons, 4.3 %
   Armour: 12,076 tons, 34.3 %
      - Belts: 6,027 tons, 17.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 870 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armament: 2,071 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,992 tons, 8.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 116 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 4,074 tons, 11.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,920 tons, 39.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,162 tons, 9.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 418 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     46,864 lbs / 21,257 Kg = 34.2 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 7.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
   Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 17.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.592
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.85 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Mid (50 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.30 ft / 6.19 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 53,902 Square feet or 5,008 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 193 lbs/sq ft or 943 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.25
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Logi]

Most recent update of the ship, getting closer to lay down date, so I'm trying to perfect it.

+2 k tons Displacement

+2 kts Speed
+Main Battery Armored Increased (+2/+1/+2) Face/Other/Barbette
+2" Conning Tower Armor
+2" End Belt spanning rest of the ship (from bow to stern)
+11t misc weight
+ Main Belt increased by 1"

- reduced main battery magazine to 60 per gun as opposed to previous 100 per gun
- removed Decapping Plate of 1.5"
- steadiness reduced
- seakeeping reduced

Main Belt is now external as opposed to the previous internal.

Juren, RRC Battleship laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   28,000 t light; 29,354 t standard; 30,973 t normal; 32,268 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   627.00 ft / 612.00 ft x 103.00 ft x 31.00 ft (normal load)
   191.11 m / 186.54 m x 31.39 m  x 9.45 m

Armament:
     12 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (3x4 guns), 1,650.00lbs / 748.43kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
     12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
     12 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (6x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
     12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 21,674 lbs / 9,831 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 60
   6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   212.00 ft / 64.62 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.00" / 51 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      13.0" / 330 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

  - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 58,277 shp / 43,475 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,914 tons

Complement:
   1,166 - 1,517

Cost:
   £7.003 million / $28.010 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,292 tons, 7.4 %
   Armour: 10,325 tons, 33.3 %
      - Belts: 4,185 tons, 13.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 947 tons, 3.1 %
      - Armament: 2,634 tons, 8.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,452 tons, 7.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 106 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 2,171 tons, 7.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,789 tons, 41.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,973 tons, 9.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 422 tons, 1.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     33,515 lbs / 15,202 Kg = 24.4 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 5.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 17.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.94 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.74 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 29.47 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18.00 ft / 5.49 m (13.00 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (10 %):   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Stern:      13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.33 ft / 4.98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 44,189 Square feet or 4,105 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 218 lbs/sq ft or 1,064 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Main Belt is Sloped at 20 Degrees (External) - So the vertical length of such a belt is 15 feet. The End belt has a gentle slope from 20 degrees back to vertical at the bow and stern of the ship.

Misc Weights (422t):
250t Primary FCS
25t Long-Range Wireless
25t Radar
24t 21" Torpedoes
50t Extra Pumps
15t Flag Facilities
 5t Climatization
28t Reserve Weight

[Sachmle]

Nice ship in  general, but I'd go with a uniform 120mm or 140mm secondary instead of the mix of 152mm and 105mm. And I'd say 12 75mm guns for AA is overkill right now. 2 to 4 should be fine, maybe some 12.7mm or 10mm MGs for effect.

[maddox]

I agree on the AA suite.

What needs a 75mm gun to be shot from the sky?  And in a heavy, bulky ,slow transversing twin turret?

The RRC has a 140mm/5.5" gun, why not a uniform secundary?  Or , if the punch is needed, a uniform 6" secundary?
Improves lay out/fire arcs and facilitates aiming.

Knowing what the most likely opponent has on ships, I would even go for the 4.5" or 5" gun, and load up a gazillion of those.

[Logi]

Juren, RRC Battleship laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   28,000 t light; 29,330 t standard; 30,948 t normal; 32,243 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   627.00 ft / 612.00 ft x 103.00 ft x 31.00 ft (normal load)
   191.11 m / 186.54 m x 31.39 m  x 9.45 m

Armament:
     12 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (3x4 guns), 1,650.00lbs / 748.43kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
     24 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (12x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 6 raised mounts - superfiring
     4 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 21,067 lbs / 9,556 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 60
   6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   212.00 ft / 64.62 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.00" / 51 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      13.0" / 330 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 58,238 shp / 43,445 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,913 tons

Complement:
   1,166 - 1,516

Cost:
   £6.863 million / $27.452 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,216 tons, 7.2 %
   Armour: 10,359 tons, 33.5 %
      - Belts: 4,185 tons, 13.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 947 tons, 3.1 %
      - Armament: 2,648 tons, 8.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,451 tons, 7.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 127 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,170 tons, 7.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,779 tons, 41.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,948 tons, 9.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 476 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     34,151 lbs / 15,491 Kg = 24.9 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 6.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 17.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.64
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.554
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.94 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.74 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 29.47 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18.00 ft / 5.49 m (13.00 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (10 %):   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Stern:      13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.33 ft / 4.98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 44,170 Square feet or 4,104 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 218 lbs/sq ft or 1,064 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Main Belt is Sloped at 20 Degrees (External) - So the vertical length of such a belt is 15 feet. The End belt has a gentle slope from 20 degrees back to vertical at the bow and stern of the ship.

Misc Weights (476t):
250t Primary FCS
25t Long-Range Wireless
25t Radar
24t 21" Torpedoes
100t Extra Pumps
15t Flag Facilities
 5t Climatization
32t Reserve Weight

[maddox]

Now that is a BB I don't want to meet in a dark alley.

[Sachmle]

Now that is a BB I don't want to meet in a dark alley.

I was just thinking the same thing. Very nice job Logi.