Army Uniforms

Started by Desertfox, November 28, 2009, 10:00:19 PM

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miketr

The standard rifle is the Mannlicher in 8x50mm produced in Iberia under license, all other rifles such as mauser's and lebel have been discarded. 

The heavy machine gun is a maxim chambered to fire the 8mm rifle round.

After the Balkan War the need for a lighter machine gun was clear.  The first attempt was a striped down Maxim developed in 1913, but it was still very heavy at 18kg.   So foreign designs were sought and Isaac Lewis presented his design; which was rechambered for 8mm.  The Lewis gun at 13kg is much lighter compared to the MG-05/13 but isn't belt feed and isn't as rugged.  Currently light troops use the Lewis Gun as it can be operated by a single person at need.   

The most recent addition to the Iberian Military is the Thompson Sub Machinegun, designed by a John T. Thompson and produced under license.  Continued studies have shown the need for heavy close range firepower.  Recently a request went out for a light autofiring weapon, firing a pistol round.  Of all designs submitted the Thompson was the clear winner.  The weapon is expected to enter service this year.

The Llama Pistol is a 45 cal weapon and has six rounds.




Desertfox

Photobucket is proving annoying...

Anyway, the complete Swiss Infantry sheet.
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miketr

Besides the Thompson what are the other weapons DF?

Michael

Desertfox

The Mauser G 01 is an ahistorical Swiss development of the Mauser G 98. The Swiss -Mondragon is the historical weapon, world's first semi-automatic rifle. The automatic and LMG versions are ahistorical.

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl26-e.htm
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miketr

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Do not go to the site that Desertfox provided there is an active X virus in one of the ads there and it just took out my laptop.  I am using my desktop for the moment but my laptop is my main computer and has all my game files on it. 

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miketr

OK Desertfox now that I have my 3rd anti-virus scan of the day finished on the laptop and I have some hope that I will fix the machine I can reply.

I have been at the site you shown before and as I recall there was an Italian Semi-Auto rifle that was done before the Mondragon.  The problem with all of these early semi-auto weapons is two fold.

1) They suffered from mechanical reliability issues, note the section on dirt fowling the Mondragon in WW1.  Early assault weapons had the same problem.

2) There was a lack of tactics to make full use of the new weapons.

In my opinion tactics matter more as the Germans in WW1 and WW2 went very far with less than the very best in weapons.  In WW2 in particular the US Army had better rifles but the Germans had better tactics.

In any event its an interesting choice but our tech levels are what matters and not the flavor text.  I do like that we have both choosen the Thompson as our armies SMG, he is going to get rich in royalties.

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The A-26 is a conventional short-recoil operated semi-automatic pistol design, a licensed derivative of the work of one Mr. John Browning. It has an eight-round single-column magazine and grip and (right handed) manual safeties. Visually it can be identified by its prominent blade sights and blocky, full-length frame. Empty, it weighs 1,190 grams. The hammer and firing pin are entirely internal, as the design is closely related to the Colt 1903 Hammerless. Heavy and inelegant, its power can make it difficult to control, but reliability is very high and the safeties are flawless.

The A-27's three variations all share the same underlying metal frame and long recoil action. All actions and barrels are tested and zeroed before final assembly as part of the production process; the two most accurate weapons out of any group of nine are fitted to wooden stocks as marksman weapons, while the least accurate is factory modified as a select-fire rather than semi-automatic weapon. The standard and marksman versions cannot accept the belt feeds or forty-round box magazines produced for the LMG variant; otherwise parts commonality is extremely high. Empty, the standard variant weighs about three kilograms; the marksman weapon's heavier stock typically puts it at about four, while the built-in bipod and altered action of the LMG gives it an empty weight of five and a half kilograms.

The A-27 has a reputation as an inaccurate but durable weapon, designed around the principle of putting down more fire rather than better fire; the stamped metal frame of the standard version tends to work slightly, while the LMG's light weight, especially relative to the high-velocity 8mm Maori round, can make it difficult to control during fully automatic fire. Marksman versions are as accurate as any other sniper-use rifle in service, however, and retain their larger magazine capacity as an advantage. The A-27's exotic layout, with the magazine and receiver laid out behind the trigger group and integrated into the stock, is credited as the secret to their light weight relative to comparable weapons.
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Desertfox

Quote1) They suffered from mechanical reliability issues, note the section on dirt fowling the Mondragon in WW1.  Early assault weapons had the same problem.
They are also inaccurate. Which is why the standard Swiss rifle remains the extremely reliable and accurate (and heavy) Mauser. The only ones using the Mondragon are the special Assault troops (which need the firepower and have the tactics), the Marines (where reliability is not an issue), cavalry (which likes not having to oprate a bolt on horseback) and selected Special Ops (which can spend the money on better rifles).

QuoteIn my opinion tactics matter more as the Germans in WW1 and WW2 went very far with less than the very best in weapons.  In WW2 in particular the US Army had better rifles but the Germans had better tactics.
True, but NS as I've created it is a tech crazy nation, its got to be top notch. NS cannot afford quantity so they go for quality.

I've got an Airsoft M1 Thomson, and its a really nice gun. Wouldn't have any other SMG.
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Guinness

Why don't Marines care about the reliability of their rifles?

Tanthalas

Quote from: Guinness on January 04, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
Why don't Marines care about the reliability of their rifles?

This Marine would like to ask the same question... I would 100 times rather have a weapon I can count on when the chips are down than one that is likley to jam from the first spec of dust (or salt, or rust) that gets in its action.  Trust me at sea Rust is your mortal foe and it wins no matter how much you clean/oil a weapon
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Desertfox

Cause the weapons will spend most of the time locked up aboard ships and used mainly for harbor patrol and ship boardings. These are not the US Marines that we see hitting beaches and fighting in the mud. The rifles will see a lot less action and can be mantained much easier. Also the extra firepower might be useful in boardings and the rifles are smaller than the Mausers.
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Kaiser Kirk

With the 1915 tech the Bavarians have been including the Bergmann MP18 and Bergmann MG15nA LMG in formations for light fire power. I need to update my TOEs. :(
An equivalent of the Mondragon has been in use as a specialist rifle for some time with mountain troops, where snow and grit keep it from general issue.
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Tanthalas

Quote from: Desertfox on January 04, 2010, 08:24:23 PM
Cause the weapons will spend most of the time locked up aboard ships and used mainly for harbor patrol and ship boardings. These are not the US Marines that we see hitting beaches and fighting in the mud. The rifles will see a lot less action and can be mantained much easier. Also the extra firepower might be useful in boardings and the rifles are smaller than the Mausers.

actualy the most usefull weapon for shipboard use is the 12 gauge shotgun, followed closely by the Pistol.
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Or his desserts are small,
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Royalist General during the English Civil War

Kaiser Kirk

well my poor marines will just have to rely on their Bergmanns :)
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Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest