Aircraft of New Switzerland as of 1918

[Walter]

'Borrowing' a plane from a certain company from a certain nation as your own is one thing. License building a plane from a company while that company is from another nation that has never given permission to you to license build it in the first place is another thing. If for example you want to use an A6M clone, that's fine. If you want to license build an A6M but do not ask me permission for that license, that's a no-no. And I get the impression that that is the case.

[Kaiser Kirk]

DF again I can have an Aircraft that looks and quacks like the Curtiss, its just flavor text.

Just like the New Swiss aircraft use images of everyone else's aircraft.
I do find it amusing that the "Swiss" have a bunch of companies with Anglo-Saxon names and presumably founders.

[Desertfox]

DF again I can have an Aircraft that looks and quacks like the Curtiss, its just flavor text.

But if you call it a Curtiss, you better pay royalties.

Just like the New Swiss aircraft use images of everyone else's aircraft.
I do find it amusing that the "Swiss" have a bunch of companies with Anglo-Saxon names and presumably founders.

I have too, not like there's a bunch of OTL New Swiss aircraft I can use, and you'll complain if I use any OTL Swiss aircraft. I'm not saying anything against using OOC pictures of other aircraft, but I am pointing out the use of an IC Swiss manufacturer without permission.

As for Anglo-Saxon names, all of Australia is populated by Anglo-Saxons, and there's a fair bunch of them in New Switzerland proper. People travel. But don't worry, Zeppelin Inc will soon start making airplanes... ;)

[Kaiser Kirk]

I have too, not like there's a bunch of OTL New Swiss aircraft I can use, and you'll complain if I use any OTL Swiss aircraft.

Actually I haven't found any period Swiss aircraft makers. Still, what I find humorous is you take Curtiss, and Hawker etc, then make up planes and then use pictures of yet other planes. Why not just call the companies "Bernoulli" and "Euler" and "Clavière" after descendents of folks who may have been expelled from Old Switzerland?

Plus I thought the New Swiss left Europe in the early 1800s, which would be before the Anglo-Saxons got to Australia. Or am I mis-remembering.

And yes, I see the dig about Zeppelin, he's cozy in Friedrichshafen while the company exists with subsidiaries elsewhere, much like several other 'Bavarian' companies.

[Desertfox]

The Curtiss planes are the same as OTL (with slight differences of course). N-verse Hawker is not the same as OTL Hawker, only connection is the founder which was Australian, and I can't use any OTL Hawker aircraft untill 1923. And I'll be d***** if I make a company called after Euler.  

And yes, I see the dig about Zeppelin, he's cozy in Friedrichshafen while the company exists with subsidiaries elsewhere, much like several other 'Bavarian' companies.

I still can not see a viable scenario in which you can steal him. NS has not stopped building zeppelins and remains at the forefront of that area of aviation. So unless you directly kidnapped him...

Oh BTW Im calling dibs on the Hafeli DH-5.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Simple he, like others, left in the first place to make franchises/subsidiaries/foreign companies. In his case he already came home while New Switzerland was NPC.
Hardly 'stealing' to have him come home to where he was born.

Oh BTW Im calling dibs on the Hafeli DH-5.

On the one hand I find "calling dibs" just obnoxious in this setting. It's not a dibs thing.
However, if you want August Häfeli and his DH-5, I'll let you have them.

Now watch, I'll get to the 1920s, cast about for a name for a new Recon bird, go "oh here's a Swiss one !" and wind up on the other end of this discussion. :)

edit : As for the names, they were famous actual Swiss folks from the late 1700s. Leonhard Euler was a pioneering Swiss mathematician and physicist, seemed a good person to eventually have a grandkid found an aviation firm.

[Desertfox]

Per N-verse history, Count Zeppelin was never born in Bavaria. How would he go back 'home' to a place he never knew?

Now watch, I'll get to the 1920s, cast about for a name for a new Recon bird, go "oh here's a Swiss one !" and wind up on the other end of this discussion.

Go ahead, if you beat me to it, you are welcome to have it. I'd say first come, first serve.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Per N-verse history, Count Zeppelin was never born in Bavaria. How would he go back 'home' to a place he never knew?

Now watch, I'll get to the 1920s, cast about for a name for a new Recon bird, go "oh here's a Swiss one !" and wind up on the other end of this discussion.

Go ahead, if you beat me to it, you are welcome to have it. I'd say first come, first serve.

Haven't read all the histories. Stuck to that of Europe. Perhaps I have the cousin and he just came to visit. New Swiss was still NPC then, so just as fair as your taking him from NPC Bavaria.

And no, I don't buy the first come first serve. Folks born in my boundaries, and companies founded there, I "get dibs" on. There- claimed.

[Desertfox]

Curtiss (based in Phoenix) is a subdivision of the Wright Corporation, specializing in flying boats and liquid-cooled aero engines.




Curtiss N.II Finback

The latest Curtiss flying boat, the Finback is also the largest and most powerful version yet. It forms the mainstay of the Swiss Navy long range reconnaissance.

Type: Long Range Reconnaissance, ASW

Crew: 4
Length: 46 ft 3 in
Wingspan: 95 ft 7 in
Wing area: 1,120 ft²
Empty weight: 7,540 lb
Gross weight: 10,970 lb
Powerplant: 2 × Curtiss Eagle VII Liquid-cooled V12 , 340 hp 

Maximum speed: 94 mph
Service ceiling: 9,400 ft
Endurance: 6 hours

Weapons: 4 x 7.62mm machine-guns, up to 400 lbs of bombs

[Desertfox]

Wright is the largest aircraft manufacturer in New Switzerland and quite possibly the world. It is known for its heavy bomber designs, but also has designed and built single engine fighters and bombers. All of its aircraft are powered by Curtiss liquid-cooled engines.




Wright A.IV Ferret I

This multi-purpose reliable aircraft forms the mainstay of the Swiss Air Force. It is the first to use a semi-monocoque fuselage.

Type: Army Cooperation, Reconnaissance, Light Bomber

Crew: 2
Length: 24 ft 5 in
Wingspan: 42 ft 8 in
Wing area: 398 ft²
Empty weight: 2,090 lb
Gross weight: 3,070 lb
Powerplant: 1 × Curtiss Falcon IV Liquid-cooled I6 , 200 hp 

Maximum speed: 105 mph
Service ceiling: 21,300 ft
Range: 240 miles

Weapons: 2 x 7.62mm machine-guns, up to 200 lbs of bombs


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Wright A.V Ferret II

A radical development of the Ferret I, uses a full-monocoque fuselage. The few planes built are in service with elite squadrons.

Type: Army Cooperation, Reconnaissance, Light Bomber

Crew: 2
Length: 29 ft 4 in
Wingspan: 41 ft 11 in
Wing area: 467 ft²
Empty weight: 2,350 lb
Gross weight: 3,490 lb
Powerplant: 1 × Curtiss Osprey IV Liquid-cooled I8 , 220 hp 

Maximum speed: 110 mph
Range: 290 miles

Weapons: 2 x 7.62mm machine-guns, up to 400 lbs of bombs

[Desertfox]

Wright D.II Foxhound

A reliable if unspectacular fighter, the Foxhound together with the Thomas-Morse Swift forms the bulk of the Swiss fighter force. Was the first aircraft to use a full-monocoque fuselage.

Type: Fighter

Crew: 1
Length: 23 ft 4 in
Wingspan: 27 ft 11 in
Wing area: 264 ft²
Empty weight: 1,400 lb
Gross weight: 1,950 lb
Powerplant: 1 × Curtiss Falcon III Liquid-cooled I6 , 170 hp 

Maximum speed: 110 mph
Service Ceiling: 16,700 ft
Endurance: 1.5 hours

Weapons: 2 x 7.62mm machine-guns

[Desertfox]

Wright B.IV Fathom II

This bomber, the latest decendant of the Wright Fighter family, forms the core of the Swiss Air Force. All other aircraft are just for support.

Type: Bomber

Crew: 3
Length: 31 ft 10 in
Wingspan: 60 ft 4 in
Wing area: 675 ft²
Empty weight: 5,300 lb
Gross weight: 8,000 lb
Powerplant: 2 × Curtiss Osprey V Liquid-cooled I8 , 250 hp  

Maximum speed: 105 mph
Service Ceiling: 14,790 ft
Endurance: 5 hours

Weapons: 2 x 7.62mm machine-guns, 900 lbs of bombs


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Wright B.V Flagon

This bombe has only been built in small numbers and equips only two squadrons.

Type: Heavy Bomber

Crew: 3
Length: 40 ft 11 in
Wingspan: 77 ft 9 in
Wing area: 962 ft²
Empty weight: 6,100 lb
Gross weight: 9,000 lb
Powerplant: 2 × Curtiss Osprey Va Liquid-cooled I8 , 270 hp  

Maximum speed: 90 mph
Service Ceiling: 21,200 ft
Range: 520 miles

Weapons: 3 x 7.62mm machine-guns, 1,200 lbs of bombs

[Walter]

Wright is the largest aircraft manufacturer in New Switzerland and quite possibly the world.

Looking at the figures, it is smaller than Kawasaki, which is the smallest of the 4 Japanese manufacturers. So largest in the world? I doubt it. :)

Japan's aviation has its roots in New Switzerland, but it is quite apparent that the apprentice has surpassed the master. ;D

[Logi]

The RRC's airforce is relatively small and only headed by a few companies but still manages to prodcue more airplanes than Wright.

[Walter]

So it's not even the 5th or 6th largest company in the world... :)