Rebuilt too...

Started by Jefgte, March 05, 2009, 04:36:17 PM

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Jefgte

Just one condition to scratch Peruvian Warship.

"a Glorious Life"


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"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Minor drawing corrections & modifs




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"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#32
Late in the 20' with multi platform bridge, new rangefinders, funnel caps & 4mounts 2x40AA



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"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Borys

I will make cute "ooooo" and "aaaah" and "olalala!" noises ...
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Jefgte

For Peru, BPs are precious so, I have studying economical rebuilt.

Here is Antofagasta the last drawing with no superfiring B turret.
The BB rebuilt was 16200t & is now 14500t

Autofagasta - LD 1905 - engine 1906 - com in 1908 - rebuilt 1917-1918
La Paz - LD 1908 - engine 1909 - com in 1911 - rebuilt 1918-1919

Displacement:
   14 500 t light; 15 310 t standard; 15 987 t normal; 16 529 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 78.74 ft x 21.24 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 170.00 m x 24.00 m  x 6.47 m

Armament:
      6 - 13.39" / 340 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1 200.00lbs / 544.31kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward
      10 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8 287 lbs / 3 759 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 104

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   393.70 ft / 120.00 m   9.19 ft / 2.80 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   124.67 ft / 38.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     39.37 ft / 12.00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   2.36" / 60 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   7.55 ft / 2.30 m
     Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.18" / 30 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   20.96 ft / 6.39 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   2.36" / 60 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 11.02" / 280 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 30 000 shp / 22 380 Kw = 22.23 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 220 tons

Complement:
   710 - 924

Cost:
   £1.534 million / $6.135 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 035 tons, 6.5 %
   Armour: 5 758 tons, 36.0 %
      - Belts: 2 308 tons, 14.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 301 tons, 1.9 %
      - Armament: 1 244 tons, 7.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 755 tons, 11.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 151 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1 118 tons, 7.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 269 tons, 39.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 487 tons, 9.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 320 tons, 2.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     20 836 lbs / 9 451 Kg = 17.4 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 3.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.08 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      20.34 ft / 6.20 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Mid (50 %):      13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Stern:      13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.13 ft / 4.61 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 32 120 Square feet or 2 984 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 718 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Rebuilt cost: 4.27BP + 9.56$



The 16200t rebuilt
Cost :7.06BP + 14.34$


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#35
 Identical  easy rebuilt for the 1911 EC Tupac Yupanqui

Was 6000t



Rebuilt to 7200t



Note, the rebuilt is made with new exellent T2x275 from GC in place of the old T2x305
Total cost rebuilt : 2.05BP – 4.7$

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6000T EC rebuilt to 7200t, Peru Escort Cruiser laid down 1911 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   7 200 t light; 7 673 t standard; 8 308 t normal; 8 816 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   456.04 ft / 456.04 ft x 71.52 ft x 17.31 ft (normal load)
   139.00 m / 139.00 m x 21.80 m  x 5.28 m

Armament:
      6 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (3x2 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward
      6 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1911 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 4 496 lbs / 2 039 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   6 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   311.68 ft / 95.00 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   2.36" / 60 mm   131.23 ft / 40.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     13.12 ft / 4.00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.51" / 140 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.18" / 30 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24 000 shp / 17 904 Kw = 23.01 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 143 tons

Complement:
   434 - 565

Cost:
   £0.832 million / $3.329 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 542 tons, 6.5 %
   Armour: 1 631 tons, 19.6 %
      - Belts: 715 tons, 8.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 393 tons, 4.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 481 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 42 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 894 tons, 10.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 833 tons, 46.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 108 tons, 13.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 3.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 880 lbs / 4 935 Kg = 17.1 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.18

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.515
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.38 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.36 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.31 ft / 6.80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.03 ft / 5.80 m
      - Mid (40 %):      14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Stern:      14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 033 Square feet or 2 047 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 627 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform



;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf