Imperial Russia Breakdown

[Blooded]

Hello All!

I have been trying to breakdown Russias economy into Regional information.

For example:
Grand Duchy of Finland: POP:3   IC:6   BP:1   Rev:

I have been able to locate Population estimates for 1915 broken down into oblasts and such. Unfortunately my limited knowledge of the Russian regional systems is making it difficult to connect oblasts into regions. I would like to break it into maybe 12 Regions or so(Would more be better? perhaps 20 or so?).

If someone might have an easy way to guesstimate a breakdown of Regional Figures, it would be of great assistance. I will trudge through if necessary but the knowledge you folks have amazes me at times.  ;)

I did something similar for the UKA http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2658.0

Thanks

[Guinness]

Not sure if this helps or not, but here's a map I found of russian regions, with their component oblasts:

[Blooded]

How does this look?

Imperial Russian Federal Districts - 1916


Grand Duchy of Finland:
Pop: 3.2    IC: 5    BP: 1

Estonia Governate:
Pop: 0.95   IC: 2    BP: 0.5

Livonia Governate:
Pop: 1.2    IC: 2    BP: 0.5

Karelia:
Pop: 2.67   IC: 1    BP: -

St. Petersburg:
Pop: 6.3    IC: 10   BP: 2.5

Smolensk:
Pop: 8.5    IC: 8    BP: 2

Moscow:
Pop: 14.1   IC: 14   BP: 3.5

Kursk:
Pop: 10.3   IC: 10   BP: 2

Caucausus:
Pop: 12.71  IC: 6    BP: 1

Volga:
Pop: 14.6   IC: 6.5  BP: 1

Kazan:
Pop: 6.0    IC: 4    BP: 1

Orenburg:
Pop: 9.3    IC: 6    BP: 1

Omsk:
Pop: 6.0    IC: 3    BP: -

Irkutsk:
Pop: 2.49   IC: 2    BP: 0.5

Amur:
Pop: 0.58   IC: 0.5  BP: -

Primorsky:
Pop: 1.0    IC: 2    BP: 0.5

[Guinness]

Is the idea that you'd break out all of these as separates territories (for lack of a better word) in Russia's reports? Or maybe just band them together as makes sense?

At any rate, I can't say that I know enough about most of these individual economies to know if they are right or wrong without doing a bunch of research that you've probably already done...

[Walter]

As you have it:
Population: 99.9
BP: 17
IC: 82
Revenue: $160.90

As it was in the H1/1916 report:
Population: 99.902
BP: 17
IC: 81
Revenue: $165.7804

... so you lose almost $5 if you were to split everything up like that...

[Logi]

The reason I don't split my provinces ;)

[Blooded]

I was not planning a formal split for reports. I just wanted to get an idea of how the economy would be effected if an area was lost, sold or whatever (Finland breaks free,etc.).

At any rate, I can't say that I know enough about most of these individual economies to know if they are right or wrong without doing a bunch of research that you've probably already done...

The only data that is true (or close too it) is the population (based off of 1915 data). The rest I made up.

... so you lose almost $5 if you were to split everything up like that...

The whole is greater than the parts?  ;D

[ctwaterman]

I like the breaking it all up part its make since for if an area is in revolt and to determine how much IC and BP a region can support.

Plus it means I cant make a profit buy a country and selling it for its component parts.


Basically yes Italia would have I highter Income if all the IC and Poulation were counted as a single location but it doesnt make sense to do it that way.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
A laudable effort. I'd love to see the 1915 population breakdown!
Now, my comments:
- a rough recreation of OTL is good enough, no need for perfection;
- I'd lump Livonia with Estonia, as very little of the former is in Russian hands;
- 1/2 to 2/3rds of the heavy industry could be concentrated in Moscow and St. Peterburg.

Some data can be gleamed from here:
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Russia
Borys