1915 musings - Armoured Cruiser

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Borys

November 11, 2008, 06:21:16 AM
Fearful and full of trepidation about all those enermous cruisers with battleship guns out there, the new Panzerkreuzer will be just as fast.

It is to serve in the Atlantic. In the last war many merchants disapearred there. The colonial avizos have certain limitations, like not being able to stand up to a small cruiser ...

The Main Belt is enough against 6" shells.
The End and Upper Belts protects from the odd 4"-5" shells making holes.

Seakeeping rating is lower than I'd like, but hopefully still reasonable.

Turrets are:
Anton - fore, deck level
Berta - fore, superfiring
Ceasar and Dora - aft, back to back

Will be laid down in 2/1915, after the Small Cruisers are fully paid for with both money and metal.

The coal is for easier availability.

At 8500 tonnes, I should be able to build three, maybe even six of these ships.


Habsburgs PanzerKreuzer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   8 524 t light; 8 913 t standard; 9 795 t normal; 10 501 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   540,00 ft / 540,00 ft x 62,00 ft x 20,00 ft (normal load)
   164,59 m / 164,59 m x 18,90 m  x 6,10 m

Armament:
      6 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (3x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (1x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline forward, all raised guns - superfiring
      8 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 35,00lbs / 15,88kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns in single mounts, 0,98lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2 042 lbs / 926 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,25" / 83 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   174,00 ft / 53,04 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 104% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,50" / 89 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm         -         1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,00" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 59 622 shp / 44 478 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 588 tons (33% coal)

Complement:
   491 - 639

Cost:
   £1,230 million / $4,921 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 243 tons, 2,5%
   Armour: 1 964 tons, 20,1%
      - Belts: 1 171 tons, 12,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 347 tons, 3,5%
      - Armour Deck: 417 tons, 4,3%
      - Conning Tower: 30 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 2 451 tons, 25,0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 666 tons, 37,4%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 271 tons, 13,0%
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 156 lbs / 4 607 Kg = 48,1 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 15,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,45
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,512
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,24 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,00 ft / 8,53 m
      - Forecastle (25%):   24,00 ft / 7,32 m
      - Mid (30%):      24,00 ft / 7,32 m (16,00 ft / 4,88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,80 ft / 5,73 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,2%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124,0%
   Waterplane Area: 22 553 Square feet or 2 095 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 512 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,40
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

The Rock Doctor

#1
November 11, 2008, 12:51:07 PM
Generally, I like her. 

I'm not sure I'd bother with the 4" - if it spends most of the time out in the Atlantic protecting shipping, you won't encounter many torpedo-boats.

Would you not want to provide for BB/AC fire control?

Borys

#2
November 11, 2008, 01:04:21 PM
Thanks for pointing out that I erroneously used the "small cruiser FC".
Swapped the 4" for 5,3" guns, which can be a bigger nuisance to AMCs or smaller cruisers.
Borys

Habrburg Kreuzer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   8 925 t light; 9 323 t standard; 10 228 t normal; 10 952 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   540,00 ft / 540,00 ft x 63,50 ft x 20,00 ft (normal load)
   164,59 m / 164,59 m x 19,35 m  x 6,10 m

Armament:
      6 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (3x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (1x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline forward, all raised guns - superfiring
      4 - 5,30" / 135 mm guns in single mounts, 75lbs / 33,76kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns in single mounts, 0,98lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2 060 lbs / 934 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,25" / 83 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   174,00 ft / 53,04 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 104% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,50" / 89 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm         -         1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,25" / 32 mm, Conning tower: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 61 762 shp / 46 074 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 629 tons (33% coal)

Complement:
   508 - 661

Cost:
   £1,275 million / $5,099 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 248 tons, 2,4%
   Armour: 2 079 tons, 20,3%
      - Belts: 1 173 tons, 11,5%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 336 tons, 3,3%
      - Armour Deck: 539 tons, 5,3%
      - Conning Tower: 30 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 2 539 tons, 24,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 759 tons, 36,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 303 tons, 12,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2,9%
250 FC
25 heavy w/t set
24 tonnes torpedos +1 set of reloads

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 585 lbs / 4 801 Kg = 50,2 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 3,1 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 15,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,09

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,522
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,24 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,00 ft / 8,53 m
      - Forecastle (25%):   24,00 ft / 7,32 m
      - Mid (30%):      24,00 ft / 7,32 m (16,00 ft / 4,88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,80 ft / 5,73 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124,4%
   Waterplane Area: 23 313 Square feet or 2 166 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 515 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,39
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

P3D

#3
November 11, 2008, 01:15:35 PM
What do you want to achieve with two 5.35" guns on a broadside?
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

Borys

#4
November 11, 2008, 01:25:13 PM
I suppose you're right - they'd be only useful for warning shots ...
So either delete secondary battery, or leave the 4"?
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

P3D

#5
November 11, 2008, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: Borys on November 11, 2008, 01:25:13 PM
I suppose you're right - they'd be only useful for warning shots ...
So either delete secondary battery, or leave the 4"?
Borys

I'd leave the 4" battery.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

Borys

#6
November 11, 2008, 01:59:13 PM
Final version, hopefully - with the 4" battery restored.

KKK SMS Schwantzlutscher, Habsburgs Panzerkreuzer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   8 999 t light; 9 398 t standard; 10 307 t normal; 11 034 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   540,00 ft / 540,00 ft x 63,50 ft x 20,00 ft (normal load)
   164,59 m / 164,59 m x 19,35 m  x 6,10 m

Armament:
      6 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (3x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (1x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline forward, all raised guns - superfiring
      8 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 35,00lbs / 15,88kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns in single mounts, 0,98lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2 042 lbs / 926 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,25" / 83 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   174,00 ft / 53,04 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 104% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,50" / 89 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm         -         1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,25" / 32 mm, Conning tower: 4,00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 62 175 shp / 46 382 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 636 tons (33% coal)

Complement:
   510 - 664

Cost:
   £1,276 million / $5,103 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 243 tons, 2,4%
   Armour: 2 102 tons, 20,4%
      - Belts: 1 174 tons, 11,4%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 347 tons, 3,4%
      - Armour Deck: 541 tons, 5,3%
      - Conning Tower: 41 tons, 0,4%
   Machinery: 2 556 tons, 24,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 777 tons, 36,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 308 tons, 12,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 320 tons, 3,1%
250 FC
25 heavy w/t set
24 tonnes torpedos +1 set of reloads
21 tonnes - long patrol amenities
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 799 lbs / 4 898 Kg = 51,2 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 3,1 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 15,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,526
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,24 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,00 ft / 8,53 m
      - Forecastle (25%):   24,00 ft / 7,32 m
      - Mid (33%):      24,00 ft / 7,32 m (16,00 ft / 4,88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   19,04 ft / 5,80 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127,4%
   Waterplane Area: 23 400 Square feet or 2 174 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 514 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,40
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Borys

#7
December 14, 2008, 02:47:10 AM Last Edit: December 14, 2008, 03:00:20 AM by Borys
The Finall-Final version:
KKK SMS Schwantzlutscher, Habsburgs Panzerkreuzer laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   9 141 t light; 9 556 t standard; 10 478 t normal; 11 215 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   550,00 ft / 550,00 ft x 63,50 ft x 20,00 ft (normal load)
   167,64 m / 167,64 m x 19,35 m  x 6,10 m

Armament:
      6 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (3x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm guns (1x2 guns), 220,00lbs / 99,79kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline forward, all raised guns - superfiring
      8 - 4,50" / 114 mm guns in single mounts, 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 1,25" / 31,8 mm guns in single mounts, 1,00lbs / 0,45kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2 162 lbs / 981 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,25" / 83 mm   364,00 ft / 110,95 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   186,00 ft / 56,69 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   364,00 ft / 110,95 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 102% of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,75" / 70 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,25" / 83 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm         -         1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,30" / 33 mm, Conning tower: 4,00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 62 150 shp / 46 364 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 659 tons (33% coal)

Complement:
   517 - 673

Cost:
   £1,299 million / $5,197 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 257 tons, 2,5%
   Armour: 2 120 tons, 20,2%
      - Belts: 1 179 tons, 11,3%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 327 tons, 3,1%
      - Armour Deck: 573 tons, 5,5%
      - Conning Tower: 41 tons, 0,4%
   Machinery: 2 555 tons, 24,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 859 tons, 36,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 337 tons, 12,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 3,3%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11 161 lbs / 5 063 Kg = 52,9 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
   Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 15,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,525
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,66 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,45 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28,00 ft / 8,53 m
      - Forecastle (25%):   24,00 ft / 7,32 m
      - Mid (32%):      24,00 ft / 7,32 m (16,00 ft / 4,88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   18,96 ft / 5,78 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,3%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127,3%
   Waterplane Area: 23 811 Square feet or 2 212 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 517 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,36
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

250 tonnes for 1912 AC FC
25 tonnes for large w/t
25 tonnes for torpedos and one set of reloads
50 tonnes for reserve/whatnots
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Borys

#8
December 14, 2008, 02:50:13 AM Last Edit: December 14, 2008, 02:58:41 AM by Borys
Ahoj!
I plan to lay down two such vessels in 2/1915, and another pair in 1/1916.
The turret arrangement is like on the HMS Tiger.

BTW - in 2/1915 I will join the "1000 tonnes destroyer" club.

Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Sachmle

#9
December 14, 2008, 10:31:31 AM
QuoteArmour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,25" / 83 mm   364,00 ft / 110,95 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   186,00 ft / 56,69 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   364,00 ft / 110,95 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 102% of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

May not want to build two of these.
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#10
December 14, 2008, 10:37:21 AM
Typically - 1,5ft. Now corrected:

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,25" / 83 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   184,00 ft / 56,08 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   2,00" / 51 mm   366,00 ft / 111,56 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 102% of normal length

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!
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