Finally, an NUS BB design that's not undergunned.

[Sachmle]

Trituradora, NUS Battleship laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Image based on parts by Wes Wilson, modified by me.
Bonus *nothing* for whoever can guess what historical BB I modeled her after.

Displacement:
   22,000 t light; 23,375 t standard; 24,864 t normal; 26,055 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.00 ft / 555.00 ft x 92.90 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
   169.77 m / 169.16 m x 28.32 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
      10 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (5x2 guns), 1,250.00lbs / 566.99kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     14 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 30.00lbs / 13.61kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all forward
   Weight of broadside 14,080 lbs / 6,387 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   366.00 ft / 111.56 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   189.00 ft / 57.61 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   366.00 ft / 111.56 m   33.00 ft / 10.06 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      11.0" / 279 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 3.50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 26,278 shp / 19,604 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,681 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   989 - 1,287

Cost:
   £3.055 million / $12.220 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,751 tons, 7.0 %
   Armour: 9,464 tons, 38.1 %
      - Belts: 3,504 tons, 14.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 670 tons, 2.7 %
      - Armament: 2,668 tons, 10.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,401 tons, 9.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 220 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,141 tons, 4.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,250 tons, 37.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,864 tons, 11.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 395 tons, 1.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     31,747 lbs / 14,400 Kg = 25.8 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 5.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.40

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.582
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.97 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6.35 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forecastle (17 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Quarterdeck (13 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Stern:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 37,080 Square feet or 3,445 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 181 lbs/sq ft or 884 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

250t F/C
25t W/T
20t 20 18" Torpedoes

Now I just have to figure out how to afford it. I'll have the Tech by 2HY/1913 at the earliest, 1HY1914 at the latest, so that's not the problem, it's that 5-5.5BP/HY problem. Anybody have extra BP, a type 2 dock/slip, and an interest in $$?

[The Rock Doctor]

I'd reckon it's 4.258 BP per half-year if evenly spread over the life of construction.

I'll consult my spreadsheet tonight to see what GC's BP situation looks like, but am not optimistic that I could dig up that much.  Finding a slip to build on wouldn't be a problem, though.

[Jefgte]

Nice BB, Well balanced

How many HY to built this Ship?

Actualy in my Board program, I have a 170m slipway at Callao free from 1914H1 to 1916H2 - 6xHY in all.


Jef  ;)

[The Rock Doctor]

Thirty-one months:  five half-years and a month.

[ledeper]

Nice BB, Well balanced

How many HY to built this Ship?

22 months+9months=31 months=5 HY

[Jefgte]

He could take more time...
6HY or 7HY & built regulary a BB.
With 8HY, He could built other warships in parallel.


Jef  ;)

[Valles]

Niiiiiiice. I'd try to identify the OTL counterpart, but I've spend so much time looking at and thinking about Cross Mirage that she's the only thing that comes to mind with that layout.

[Korpen]

She does remind me a bit of HMS Canada.

[Sachmle]

Here's the full view w/ the hull and full depth of the belts.

Image based on parts by Wes Wilson, modified by me.

Any more guesses on the origin of the idea/basis for the layout? Here's a hint: She would have been built on the Atlantic seaboard in the 1910's.

[Jefgte]

That's realy a nice BB


Jef  ;)

[Sachmle]

Slightly updated SS Report w/ the belt extended 2' fore and aft to extend slightly beyond the "A" and "Y" turrets. Also the TDS is a little shorter, without lowering the "Torpedo hits to sink" value. I increase the amount of oil fuel as well to 40% from 10%. For those of you wondering why I went back to partial coal firing the answer is simple, I only get oil from 1 country, and that country wasn't terribly happy w/ The Southern Cross Alliance. (At least the former player wasn't, don't know what the new guy will think.)

Trituradora, NUS Battleship laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Image based on parts by Wes Wilson, modified by me.
Displacement:
   21,885 t light; 23,254 t standard; 24,593 t normal; 25,664 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.00 ft / 555.00 ft x 92.50 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
   169.77 m / 169.16 m x 28.19 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
      10 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (5x2 guns), 1,250.00lbs / 566.99kg shells, 1914 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     14 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 30.00lbs / 13.61kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all forward
   Weight of broadside 14,080 lbs / 6,387 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   4 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   370.00 ft / 112.78 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   185.00 ft / 56.39 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   370.00 ft / 112.78 m   31.00 ft / 9.45 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      11.0" / 279 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 3.50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 26,057 shp / 19,439 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,409 tons (60% coal)

Complement:
   981 - 1,276

Cost:
   £3.042 million / $12.170 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,751 tons, 7.1 %
   Armour: 9,423 tons, 38.3 %
      - Belts: 3,518 tons, 14.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 637 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armament: 2,668 tons, 10.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,382 tons, 9.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 219 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,099 tons, 4.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,217 tons, 37.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,708 tons, 11.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 395 tons, 1.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     31,336 lbs / 14,214 Kg = 25.5 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 5.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.40

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.578
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6.35 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forecastle (17 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Quarterdeck (13 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Stern:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 36,787 Square feet or 3,418 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 181 lbs/sq ft or 886 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

250t F/C
25t W/T
20t 20 18" Torpedoes

[The Rock Doctor]

Partial use of coal is reasonable but bear in mind that you're now allied to another nation with growing petroleum exports...

[Valles]

You could also try building a native coal liquification industry, as I've done.

[ctwaterman]

I Like the BB Nice design.

Hmmm... I will have to go read that thread on Oil because unless It gets found in Libya - Italian North Africa/Tunisia much sooner then in real life I am surely out of luck.... Wonders if Romania sells cheap and if I can get ships their now with the war going on.....

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Libyan oil - I'm afraid the tech to get it out of the ground is 1950s like.
I produce some 7M barrels a year.
Borys