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"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

#1

scale is 1 pix = 1 foot

Italia-BB-1905, Italia Light Battle Ship laid down 1905

Displacement:
   17,151 t light; 18,043 t standard; 19,530 t normal; 20,720 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   530.64 ft / 525.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   161.74 m / 160.02 m x 24.38 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      9 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3x3 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (1x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
      20 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8,807 lbs / 3,995 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   2 - 20.0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   304.50 ft / 92.81 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   220.48 ft / 67.20 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   304.50 ft / 92.81 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 23,388 shp / 17,447 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,677 tons (80% coal)

Complement:
   825 - 1,073

Cost:
   £1.793 million / $7.170 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,101 tons, 5.6 %
   Armour: 6,775 tons, 34.7 %
      - Belts: 3,297 tons, 16.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 2,099 tons, 10.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,192 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 187 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,911 tons, 9.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,165 tons, 36.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,379 tons, 12.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     25,103 lbs / 11,387 Kg = 29.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 16.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.80
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.651
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.91 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forecastle (21 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (50 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (21 %):   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Stern:      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.00 ft / 5.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 32,204 Square feet or 2,992 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 158 lbs/sq ft or 770 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

1 in class RM Arminius
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

#2

Scale is 1 pix =1 foot

Italia-BB-1909, Italia Light Battle Ship laid down 1909

Displacement:
   17,555 t light; 18,449 t standard; 19,647 t normal; 20,605 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   530.80 ft / 525.00 ft x 85.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
   161.79 m / 160.02 m x 25.91 m  x 7.62 m

Armament:
      9 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3x3 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1909 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (1x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1909 Model
     Quick firing guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
      20 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1909 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8,807 lbs / 3,995 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   2 - 20.0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   297.36 ft / 90.64 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   227.62 ft / 69.38 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   297.36 ft / 90.64 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 87 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      3.00" / 76 mm   297.36 ft / 90.64 m   23.41 ft / 7.14 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 23,398 shp / 17,455 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,156 tons (80% coal)

Complement:
   829 - 1,078

Cost:
   £1.700 million / $6.799 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,101 tons, 5.6 %
   Armour: 7,650 tons, 38.9 %
      - Belts: 3,364 tons, 17.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 773 tons, 3.9 %
      - Armament: 2,099 tons, 10.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,226 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 188 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,147 tons, 5.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,457 tons, 38.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,092 tons, 10.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     30,936 lbs / 14,033 Kg = 35.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 5.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 16.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.68
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.616
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.91 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Forecastle (22 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (50 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (22 %):   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Stern:      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.09 ft / 5.82 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 33,140 Square feet or 3,079 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 162 lbs/sq ft or 792 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.65
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

1 in service Germanicus
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

#3


Italia-BB-1910, Italia Light Battle Ship laid down 1910 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   19,986 t light; 21,113 t standard; 22,633 t normal; 23,849 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   555.00 ft / 555.00 ft x 88.00 ft x 26.00 ft (normal load)
   169.16 m / 169.16 m x 26.82 m  x 7.92 m

Armament:
      8 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (3 mounts), 1,400.00lbs / 635.03kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
      12 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1910 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      2 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (1x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1910 Model
     Quick firing guns in a deck mount with hoist
     on centreline forward, all raised guns - superfiring
      20 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1910 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 11,981 lbs / 5,435 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   2 - 20.0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   355.00 ft / 108.20 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   200.00 ft / 60.96 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   355.00 ft / 108.20 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.00" / 25 mm   355.00 ft / 108.20 m   24.75 ft / 7.54 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 36,185 shp / 26,994 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 6,700nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,736 tons

Complement:
   922 - 1,199

Cost:
   £2.164 million / $8.657 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,470 tons, 6.5 %
   Armour: 7,962 tons, 35.2 %
      - Belts: 4,601 tons, 20.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 325 tons, 1.4 %
      - Armament: 1,816 tons, 8.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,013 tons, 4.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 207 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,645 tons, 7.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,559 tons, 37.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,647 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     29,808 lbs / 13,521 Kg = 21.7 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 4.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.624
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.31 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25.00 ft / 7.62 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (70 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m (12.00 ft / 3.66 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Stern:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.59 ft / 5.67 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 36,522 Square feet or 3,393 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 171 lbs/sq ft or 835 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.57
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Gaulius Joined Fleet in July 1912
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

#4


Design Study Only Never Built
Italia-SBB-1910, Italia Scout Battle Ship laid down 1910 (Engine 1909)

"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

#5


Never Built

"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

ctwaterman

#6
Imperator Class, Italia Marina Ship Battleship laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)
IMS Imperator will Join Fleet Marina in 1916
Displacement:
   26,674 t light; 28,513 t standard; 30,066 t normal; 31,309 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   645.75 ft / 645.75 ft x 94.00 ft x 28.75 ft (normal load)
   196.82 m / 196.82 m x 28.65 m  x 8.76 m

Armament:
      10 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (4 mounts), 1,500.00lbs / 680.39kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all forward
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all aft
     4 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      12 - 1.06" / 27.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.60lbs / 0.27kg shells, 1910 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 15,757 lbs / 7,147 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 140

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   409.10 ft / 124.69 m   12.50 ft / 3.81 m
   Ends:   5.00" / 127 mm   236.50 ft / 72.09 m   11.50 ft / 3.51 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.75" / 44 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   27.00 ft / 8.23 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -               -
   3rd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 13.00" / 330 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 52,879 shp / 39,448 Kw = 23.59 kts
   Range 6,500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,796 tons

Complement:
   1,141 - 1,484

Cost:
   £2.999 million / $11.995 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,810 tons, 6.0 %
   Armour: 10,383 tons, 34.5 %
      - Belts: 4,265 tons, 14.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 717 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armament: 2,659 tons, 8.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,471 tons, 8.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 271 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 2,108 tons, 7.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,998 tons, 39.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,392 tons, 11.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 375 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     42,682 lbs / 19,360 Kg = 31.1 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 6.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 16.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.88
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.41 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (21 %):   24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Mid (67 %):      24.00 ft / 7.32 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (16 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.67 ft / 6.60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 44,520 Square feet or 4,136 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 191 lbs/sq ft or 933 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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