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[BattleofthePyramids]

Swamphen:

That looks really - disturbing.  But, I guess there is room for the Hapsburgs, somehow.  It seems France is a major empire/pain in the you-know-what (again) but manageable as long as the French player is not indulging in dreams of glory.

[P3D]

Ithreko,

if you want to place Rohan and Middle Earth on the Map, could you edit it such?
Also, I don't think any nation should have developed industry on their colonies - they are there to be cash cows.

[Earl822]

I think that depends, I reckon that in my proposed nations case, the North American colony would be industrial, and to a limited extent, Denmark as well, but I agree, no 7 heavy factories in the Azores this time ???

[swamphen]

In this 'verse the Ost Afrikan infrastructure would, mostly, be moved to Brandenburg proper (leaving perhaps a MBP (or equivilant) or two and a few Type 0/1 docks, not slips).

If Borys isn't playing, then the DKB would likely include New Zealand as well.

[P3D]

Earl:

I think Great Britain AND New England would just be too powerful. And there is place in North America for at least 5 player countries.

Swamphen,

what about moving DKB to Zeelandia? New Zealand's continental shelf rised above the sea. You don't have to invent too much.

[Earl822]

The thing is, I'd like to actually have an empire, the UKA was a third rate power at best, and very little of the American possesions would be heavily industrial, mainly the bit around New York.

[P3D]

Found some Middle Earth maps here:
http://www.me-dem.org/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=32&catid=2

[Ithekro]

Yes I found that too.  It doen't match the maps I have in the Atlas, and the Atlas has stuff scaled in miles and kilometers, so I based this drawing on the Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad.



The world is weird here because I use an example map due to it having room for me to work with.

On the map is The main continent(s) of Middle Earth, the Dark Lands to the south-east, the "Wall of the Sun" with the "?" on it, and Numenor was scale and placement.  Aman is not shown as it would have been removed from th world by this time...the "New Lands" are not clear on any atlas drawing so not shown.

[Ithekro]

One of their later globe maps show this with the other two continents....looks like the Africa like continent got ripped in half after the Second Age and the bending of the world.

[swamphen]

what about moving DKB to Zeelandia? New Zealand's continental shelf rised above the sea. You don't have to invent too much.

Well it'd be a bugger to work out on Da Map™, but I like that idea, it's a most cunning plan...
;)

[Alikchi]

I'm fairly satisfied where the Ottomans are, territorially, although I wouldn't mind having Bahrain back.

[BattleofthePyramids]

I can't see where the Hapsburgs are, so I am not sure.  On a more general note, if we are starting in 1906, do we get 5 years worth of points to upgrade/renew/rebuild our armies and fleets?  Also, what is the political situation? Is the world at peace, was there some world-wide catastrophe that changed the geography and so created world-wide shortages, is everyone gearing up for a free for all, or what?

[swamphen]

Paitence, Grashoppa. The Habsburgs will appear on my maps as soon as it is prepared (i.e. uploading shortly). As for the rest of your questions, we must first discern the shape of the world itself before we can reshape it to our will.

[Alikchi]

Why come up with a catastrophe or event or alien space bats to explain things? IMHO, if it's our world, then this can be the way it has always been.

[swamphen]

Precisely! ;D