1.- Airpower can be decisive

2.- Torpedo strikes are viable and effective

3.- Level bombardment of ships hits nothing

4.- Strategic bombardment is nothing more than a nuisance

5.- Tactical bombardment helps immensely

6.- AA will take its told, armor ground attack aircraft

7.- Air superiority over the battlefield is necessary


The Swiss will take the Luftwaffe approach, no strategic bombers, but a very good tactical air force. NS will develop large long range aircraft, but only for maritime patrol and not for strategic bombing.

The Air Force will be organized along the following lines:

4 AC + 1 spare = Flight
3 Flights = Squadron
3-5 Squadrons = Wing
3 Wings = Group

2 'Flying Circuses' will be formed, each will contain 10 Squadrons of which, 3 Fighter, 1 Long-range Recce, 2 Ground-attack, 2 General-purpose, 2 Mission specific. All aircraft will be single-engined using the same engine type (for maintenance purposes). The groups will be free-floating and able to be moved to wherever they are needed.

The rest of the air force will be distributed in 3 Squadron wings (of same AC type).

I agree but shouldnt this say Lessons New Zion is learning from the war ????  These are lessons New Zion is paying for in huge amounts of Pilot blood, sweat and tears.

And the Swiss, I have plenty of Swiss pilots, instructors, and advisers there.

8.- Oh yeah, airpower is very cost effective. ~500 aircrews vs ~100,000 infantry casualties

 ::)

There is a difference between NZ and NS?

1.- Airpower can be decisive

As recon.

2.- Torpedo strikes are viable and effective

Not from the air. Destroyers, however, were murderous.

3.- Level bombardment of ships hits nothing

Inconclusive. There wasn't a massive effort.

4.- Strategic bombardment is nothing more than a nuisance

Inconclusive. There wasn't a massive effort.

5.- Tactical bombardment helps immensely

We think recon mated to proper ground or naval action at the present time is far more effective.

6.- AA will take its told, armor ground attack aircraft

I am kind of surprised that our lousy AAA is as effective as it is.

7.- Air superiority over the battlefield is necessary

Wrong lesson. Air recon over the battlefield is necessary.

We hope the NS apply the wrong lessons learned.

QuoteThere is a difference between NZ and NS?

Of course there is, most people just choose to ignore it.

QuoteNot from the air. Destroyers, however, were murderous.

Good thing you don't know that. I however, took heavier losses from a lousy torpedo bomber strike than the entire allied fleet.

QuoteWrong lesson. Air recon over the battlefield is necessary.

We hope the Dutch continue their line of thinking, the Swiss approve.

Quote from: Desertfox on July 18, 2010, 03:38:27 PM

QuoteThere is a difference between NZ and NS?

Of course there is, most people just choose to ignore it.

QuoteNot from the air. Destroyers, however, were murderous.

Good thing you don't know that. I however, took heavier losses from a lousy torpedo bomber strike than the entire allied fleet.

QuoteWrong lesson. Air recon over the battlefield is necessary.

We hope the Dutch continue their line of thinking, the Swiss approve.

1. No there isn't.
2. You weren't moving.
3. OOC. The NS are getting ahead of themselves again. IC. The greatest effect aircraft have to date is as recon for other forces. That is the real, lesson here.   

OOC Send your recon planes unescorted into my lines and we'll see what happens...

OOC. You haven't learned what "Geiner" learned or what "Schoepen" learned in sim firsthand and that surprises me. 

I think I'll leave you in the dark about that.

D.

Recon? Pity it took the Dutch so long to learn it. It's all nice and dandy, but recon is even better when the pilot actually lives to tell what he saw.

Let's see whether New Zion survives the war before we worry what they learned from it.

Quote from: Desertfox on July 18, 2010, 04:19:21 PM
Recon? Pity it took the Dutch so long to learn it. It's all nice and dandy, but recon is even better when the pilot actually lives to tell what he saw.

This from the guy who sailed blindly into TWO naval traps and who was outmaneuvered on land repeatedly?  ::)

You really should read the Dutch news.  8)

D.

There's a big difference about knowing the importance of recon and actually being able to carry it out effectively.

I was not outmaneuvered on land, the Italians where just able to throw everything including the kitchen sink at my forces. No amount of recon is going to help there.

And I didn't sail blindly into two traps, I knew the allies where there. And in that case intel (that the French where also involved) would have been alot more valuable.

I would be convening court martials and training firing squads. I would also change governments instead of proclaiming military prowess here.

D.   ;)

Court martials? After doing the impossible TWICE?

No you didn't.