Byzantium builds a new DD class, TB & TGB every 2 years.
In 1932, 1933, D8 class (12DD) will be rebuilt from 1000t to 1100t with 120 guns.
The 1900t D15 class (8DD) will also be built.
In 1934, an evolution of D15 class (1900t) will be started.
A class of colonial TB or DD (900t-1200t) will also be started.
Escort Destroyer, Byzantine Empire T900 laid down 1934
Displacement:
900 t light; 962 t standard; 1 080 t normal; 1 175 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(292,69 ft / 288,71 ft) x 29,63 ft x (10,94 / 11,57 ft)
(89,21 m / 88,00 m) x 9,03 m x (3,33 / 3,53 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 144 lbs / 65 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 24 850 shp / 18 538 Kw = 30,97 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 213 tons
Complement:
93 - 122
Cost:
£0,561 million / $2,242 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 28 tons, 2,6 %
- Guns: 28 tons, 2,6 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 539 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 284 tons, 26,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 180 tons, 16,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 4,2 %
- On freeboard deck: 42 tons
- Above deck: 3 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
323 lbs / 147 Kg = 10,1 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
Metacentric height 1,2 ft / 0,4 m
Roll period: 11,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,21
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,404 / 0,416
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16,99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Quarter deck: 15,50 %, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Average freeboard: 13,04 ft / 3,97 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135,6 %
Waterplane Area: 5 277 Square feet or 490 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 70 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 138 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 2,27
- Overall: 0,58
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
3t for top fire control
Short Marconi
OD
16t for 1x4TTx533 HW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
5t for DC
6t reserved
AW
Climatisation
600nm@30kts
1800nm@20kts
3090nm@16kts
Trial speed: 32kts
Bonus: 1.05
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Similar with 2M2x114
Escort Destroyer, Byzantine Empire D1020 laid down 1934
Displacement:
1 020 t light; 1 103 t standard; 1 231 t normal; 1 334 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(309,23 ft / 305,12 ft) x 30,51 ft x (11,46 / 12,08 ft)
(94,25 m / 93,00 m) x 9,30 m x (3,49 / 3,68 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 247 lbs / 112 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 27 810 shp / 20 746 Kw = 31,45 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 231 tons
Complement:
103 - 135
Cost:
£0,646 million / $2,582 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 38 tons, 3,1 %
- Guns: 38 tons, 3,1 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 615 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 314 tons, 25,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 211 tons, 17,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 48 tons, 3,9 %
- On freeboard deck: 44 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
347 lbs / 158 Kg = 7,7 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22
Metacentric height 1,2 ft / 0,4 m
Roll period: 11,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,31
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,404 / 0,415
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17,47 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 19,36 ft / 5,90 m, 15,58 ft / 4,75 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 15,58 ft / 4,75 m, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Quarter deck: 15,50 %, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Average freeboard: 13,13 ft / 4,00 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 173,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133,7 %
Waterplane Area: 5 744 Square feet or 534 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 71 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 145 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 2,04
- Overall: 0,57
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for top fire control
Short Marconi
OD
16t for 1x4TTx533 HW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
5t for DC
8t reserved
AW
Climatisation
600nm@30kts
1800nm@20kts
3090nm@16kts
Trial speed: 32kts
Bonus: 1.05
for 120 tons, 13% more, you get a much better gun. The 58lb round fires a little further, but has 79% more impact.
Update from 1020t to 1100t
=> More reserve weight
Escort Destroyer, Byzantine Empire D1100 laid down 1934
Displacement:
1 100 t light; 1 186 t standard; 1 320 t normal; 1 427 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(325,74 ft / 321,52 ft) x 32,15 ft x (11,06 / 11,65 ft)
(99,29 m / 98,00 m) x 9,80 m x (3,37 / 3,55 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 248 lbs / 113 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 29 282 shp / 21 845 Kw = 31,73 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 241 tons
Complement:
109 - 142
Cost:
£0,690 million / $2,761 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 38 tons, 2,9 %
- Guns: 38 tons, 2,9 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 660 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 341 tons, 25,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 220 tons, 16,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 57 tons, 4,3 %
- On freeboard deck: 53 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
385 lbs / 175 Kg = 8,5 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24
Metacentric height 1,3 ft / 0,4 m
Roll period: 11,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,26
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,404 / 0,415
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17,93 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 19,85 ft / 6,05 m, 15,91 ft / 4,85 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 15,91 ft / 4,85 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Quarter deck: 15,50 %, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Average freeboard: 13,36 ft / 4,07 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143,1 %
Waterplane Area: 6 378 Square feet or 593 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 72 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 147 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,76
- Overall: 0,56
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for top fire control
Short Marconi
OD
16t for 1x4TTx533 HW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for DC
16t reserved
AW
Climatisation
Trial speed: 32,5kts
Bonus: 0.77
It's a pretty good 1100 tonner.
Difficult size range to manage.
I just can not fit all the things I want to on a 1000 ton hull,
or the 1100 ton- that was the starting point for the Gurg/Vakharz classes.
The replacement Saihgus is 11% larger than those but 15% larger than this.
For patrols, colonies & escorts works
TGB570, Byzantine Empire Torpedo Gun Boat laid down 1933
Displacement:
570 t light; 627 t standard; 678 t normal; 718 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(245,80 ft / 242,78 ft) x 26,25 ft x (8,99 / 9,35 ft)
(74,92 m / 74,00 m) x 8,00 m x (2,74 / 2,85 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 225 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 8 600 shp / 6 415 Kw = 25,20 kts
Range 5 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 91 tons
Complement:
66 - 86
Cost:
£0,312 million / $1,250 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 6,0 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 6,0 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,8 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 251 tons, 37,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 215 tons, 31,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 108 tons, 15,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 58 tons, 8,6 %
- Hull above water: 2 tons
- On freeboard deck: 52 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
372 lbs / 169 Kg = 7,1 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 12,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,22
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,414 / 0,422
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,58 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 17,14 ft / 5,23 m, 13,21 ft / 4,03 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 13,21 ft / 4,03 m, 9,92 ft / 3,03 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 9,92 ft / 3,03 m, 8,94 ft / 2,73 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 8,94 ft / 2,73 m, 9,92 ft / 3,03 m
- Average freeboard: 11,10 ft / 3,38 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 140,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119,9 %
Waterplane Area: 3 957 Square feet or 368 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 155 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,65
- Longitudinal: 2,73
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
AD
Short Marconi
4t for top fire control - 1924
OD
9t for 1x3TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
20t reserve for new materials, armaments or 20 minen
AW
Climatisation
For 8000t cruisers - 1933, Byzantium test several projects,
mostly:
4T2x191 - 31kts - 13000nm - B100
6T2x191 - 30kts - 12500nm - B100
The project with 6T2x191 is selected because its 50% greater firepower is preferable to 1 additional knot.
Patuh - Prukho, Byzantine Empire C13 laid down 1933
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 600 t standard; 9 528 t normal; 10 270 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(563,29 ft / 557,74 ft) x 62,01 ft x (19,76 / 20,90 ft)
(171,69 m / 170,00 m) x 18,90 m x (6,02 / 6,37 m)
Armament:
12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 180 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 129 lbs / 1 419 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 368,11 ft / 112,20 m 9,45 ft / 2,88 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 189,60 ft / 57,79 m 9,45 ft / 2,88 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 65 240 shp / 48 669 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 500nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 670 tons
Complement:
481 - 626
Cost:
£3,981 million / $15,926 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 840 tons, 8,8 %
- Guns: 840 tons, 8,8 %
Armour: 1 542 tons, 16,2 %
- Belts: 655 tons, 6,9 %
- Armament: 114 tons, 1,2 %
- Armour Deck: 707 tons, 7,4 %
- Conning Towers: 65 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 1 901 tons, 20,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 453 tons, 36,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 528 tons, 16,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 265 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 116 tons
- Above deck: 109 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
11 255 lbs / 5 105 Kg = 52,9 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 2,7 ft / 0,8 m
Roll period: 15,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,84
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,09
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,497
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,99 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 26,08 ft / 7,95 m, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,51 ft / 5,64 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161,2 %
Waterplane Area: 22 794 Square feet or 2 118 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 545 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,45
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
84t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
39t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
Testing a 8000t HMS Sheffield
4T3x152/50, Byzantine Empire 8000t-32kts laid down 1933
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 425 t standard; 9 384 t normal; 10 152 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(574,11 ft / 570,87 ft) x 62,01 ft x (19,33 / 20,49 ft)
(174,99 m / 174,00 m) x 18,90 m x (5,89 / 6,25 m)
Armament:
12 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 111,99lbs / 50,80kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 641 lbs / 744 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 379,63 ft / 115,71 m 9,45 ft / 2,88 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 191,21 ft / 58,28 m 9,45 ft / 2,88 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 82 550 shp / 61 582 Kw = 32,00 kts
Range 13 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 726 tons
Complement:
476 - 619
Cost:
£3,720 million / $14,881 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 486 tons, 5,2 %
- Guns: 486 tons, 5,2 %
Armour: 1 439 tons, 15,3 %
- Belts: 660 tons, 7,0 %
- Armament: 71 tons, 0,8 %
- Armour Deck: 644 tons, 6,9 %
- Conning Towers: 64 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 405 tons, 25,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 425 tons, 36,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 384 tons, 14,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 245 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 120 tons
- Above deck: 85 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10 745 lbs / 4 874 Kg = 100,3 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 15,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,480 / 0,490
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,21 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,25 %, 26,41 ft / 8,05 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m
- Forward deck: 33,25 %, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 17,55 ft / 5,35 m
- Aft deck: 33,25 %, 17,55 ft / 5,35 m, 16,73 ft / 5,10 m
- Quarter deck: 16,25 %, 16,73 ft / 5,10 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,89 ft / 5,76 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169,6 %
Waterplane Area: 23 165 Square feet or 2 152 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 504 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,36
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
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25t for Long Range Marconi
53t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
43t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
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BW
40t for additionnal pumps
I could built 27kts TGB to work with 27kts colonial cruisers.
Prince class, Byzantine Empire TGB720 laid down 1932-33-34
Displacement:
720 t light; 776 t standard; 864 t normal; 935 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(259,03 ft / 255,91 ft) x 26,25 ft x (10,38 / 10,96 ft)
(78,95 m / 78,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,16 / 3,34 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 220 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
2 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mount, 1932 Model
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 212 lbs / 96 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 13 200 shp / 9 847 Kw = 27,04 kts
Range 5 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 159 tons
Complement:
79 - 103
Cost:
£0,396 million / $1,585 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 40 tons, 4,6 %
- Guns: 40 tons, 4,6 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,4 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,4 %
Machinery: 365 tons, 42,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 263 tons, 30,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 144 tons, 16,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 49 tons, 5,7 %
- On freeboard deck: 45 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
387 lbs / 175 Kg = 7,3 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 11,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,434 / 0,444
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16,00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 9,51 ft / 2,90 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 9,51 ft / 2,90 m, 10,17 ft / 3,10 m
- Average freeboard: 11,93 ft / 3,64 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 151,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,3 %
Waterplane Area: 4 230 Square feet or 393 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 158 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,64
- Longitudinal: 3,08
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
Short Marconi
4t for top fire control
OD
12t for 1x4TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
10t reserve for new armament, material, minen
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TGBM, Byzantine Empire Minelayer laid down 1933
Displacement:
1 540 t light; 1 614 t standard; 1 832 t normal; 2 007 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(364,21 ft / 360,89 ft) x 36,09 ft x (12,31 / 13,07 ft)
(111,01 m / 110,00 m) x 11,00 m x (3,75 / 3,98 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 225 lbs / 102 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 37 710 shp / 28 131 Kw = 32,58 kts
Range 8 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 393 tons
Complement:
139 - 182
Cost:
£0,912 million / $3,648 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 40 tons, 2,2 %
- Guns: 40 tons, 2,2 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 915 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 441 tons, 24,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 293 tons, 16,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 140 tons, 7,6 %
- Hull above water: 2 tons
- On freeboard deck: 134 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
528 lbs / 240 Kg = 10,0 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23
Metacentric height 1,6 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 12,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,16
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,413
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 20,92 ft / 6,38 m, 16,57 ft / 5,05 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 16,57 ft / 5,05 m, 13,01 ft / 3,97 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 13,01 ft / 3,97 m, 11,70 ft / 3,57 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,70 ft / 3,57 m, 11,70 ft / 3,57 m
- Average freeboard: 14,12 ft / 4,30 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 168,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,1 %
Waterplane Area: 8 017 Square feet or 745 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 156 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,39
- Overall: 0,55
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
Short Marconi
4t for top fire control
OD
15t for enhanced hydrophone
5t for 25x195kg DC
12t for 3TTx533
2t for paravanes
100 minen
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Trial speed:33.14kts
Bonus: 0.57
Definitely a handy vessel to have available.
D7 1933 rebuilt with new engines & T2x120 from C13 class | D7 | D7 1000t => 1100t | | Reconstruction 1933 | | |
| 1000t => 1100t | | 25%$ 10%BP | 0,25 | 0,1 |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP |
| new guns | 10t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,02 | 0,02 |
| new mounts | 24t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,024 | 0,024 |
| new armour | 2 | 1$ => 1BP | 0,002 | 0,002 |
| new engines | 636t | 2$ => 1BP | 1,272 | 0,636 |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0t | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new belt | 0t | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new deck | 0t | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new bow | 46t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,046 | 0,046 |
| | | | 1,619 | 0,818 |
| old guns | 7,4 | 15% | 0,0011 | 0,0011 |
| old mounts | 16t | 15% | 0,0024 | 0,0024 |
| old armor | 3,7 | 15% | 0,00055 | 0,00055 |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old engines | 582t | 15% | 0,0873 | 0,0873 |
| | | | 0,09135 | 0,09135 |
| Final cost | 1,619- 0,09205 => | | | 1,527$ | |
| Final cost | 0,818 - 0,09205 => | | | | 0,726BP |
D7-4x102 to 2T2x120, Byzantine Empire D7 laid down 1910 (Engine 1933)D93 - D94 - D95 - D96Displacement:
1 100 t light; 1 161 t standard; 1 254 t normal; 1 328 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(344,49 ft / 344,49 ft) x 34,45 ft x (9,48 / 9,84 ft)
(105,00 m / 105,00 m) x 10,50 m x (2,89 / 3,00 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck aft
2 raised mounts
2 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mount, 1930 Model
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward
1 raised mount
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 212 lbs / 96 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 28 840 shp / 21 515 Kw = 32,22 kts
Range 4 150nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 167 tons
Complement:
104 - 136
Cost:
£0,137 million / $0,548 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 40 tons, 3,2 %
- Guns: 40 tons, 3,2 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,4 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,4 %
Machinery: 627 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 362 tons, 28,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 154 tons, 12,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 66 tons, 5,3 %
- On freeboard deck: 62 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
407 lbs / 185 Kg = 7,7 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
Metacentric height 1,4 ft / 0,4 m
Roll period: 12,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,390 / 0,398
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18,56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22,00 %, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Forward deck: 20,00 %, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 15,91 ft / 4,85 m
- Aft deck: 38,00 %, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m
- Average freeboard: 13,72 ft / 4,18 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 170,6 %
Waterplane Area: 7 256 Square feet or 674 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 68 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 148 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,49
- Overall: 0,56
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
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4t for top mast Rangefinder-1930
Short Marconi
OD
18t for 2x3TTx533
15t for Enhanced hydrophonne
5t for 25x195 kg DC
5t for night fighting
2t paravanes
17t reserved for new materials, armament, minen
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Actual built
D7 class, Byzantine Empire D7 laid down 1910D93 - D94 - D95 - D96Displacement:
1 000 t light; 1 034 t standard; 1 121 t normal; 1 192 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(344,49 ft / 344,49 ft) x 34,45 ft x (8,48 / 8,82 ft)
(105,00 m / 105,00 m) x 10,50 m x (2,59 / 2,69 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
1 x 2-gun mounts on centreline aft, evenly spread
1 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 136 lbs / 61 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 21 000 shp / 15 666 Kw = 30,37 kts
Range 3 600nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 158 tons
Complement:
96 - 125
Cost:
£0,123 million / $0,492 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 25 tons, 2,2 %
- Guns: 25 tons, 2,2 %
Armour: 8 tons, 0,7 %
- Armament: 8 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 582 tons, 51,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 315 tons, 28,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 122 tons, 10,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 6,2 %
- On freeboard deck: 58 tons
- Above deck: 12 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
353 lbs / 160 Kg = 11,0 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26
Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 11,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,390 / 0,398
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18,56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22,00 %, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m, 16,73 ft / 5,10 m
- Forward deck: 20,00 %, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
- Aft deck: 38,00 %, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
- Average freeboard: 12,78 ft / 3,90 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 173,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165,3 %
Waterplane Area: 7 256 Square feet or 674 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 60 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 136 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,06
- Overall: 0,54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
18t for 6TT x 533 - 1x3T+1x3T
2t for top mast rangefinder
6t for additionnal engines ventillation
5t Hydrophone
3t for 30x90kg DC
36t reserved for Minen
Trial speed : 31.5kts
Bonus : 1.13
This class (12,380t) was in the Plan for 1932 but due to congestion in the shipyards, postponed for 1933.
12330t Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC-3T3x234 laid down 1933
Displacement:
12 330 t light; 13 050 t standard; 14 194 t normal; 15 110 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,63 ft / 616,80 ft) x 77,10 ft x (22,51 / 23,56 ft)
(189,47 m / 188,00 m) x 23,50 m x (6,86 / 7,18 m)
Armament:
9 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 480 lbs / 2 032 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 428,67 ft / 130,66 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 188,09 ft / 57,33 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 428,67 ft / 130,66 m 18,90 ft / 5,76 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,70 ft / 18,50 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 6,69" / 170 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 600 shp / 60 128 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 059 tons
Complement:
649 - 845
Cost:
£5,644 million / $22,578 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 090 tons, 7,7 %
- Guns: 1 090 tons, 7,7 %
Armour: 3 583 tons, 25,2 %
- Belts: 1 189 tons, 8,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 472 tons, 3,3 %
- Armament: 499 tons, 3,5 %
- Armour Deck: 1 289 tons, 9,1 %
- Conning Towers: 134 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 2 348 tons, 16,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 967 tons, 35,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 864 tons, 13,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 341 tons, 2,4 %
- Hull below water: 61 tons
- Hull above water: 62 tons
- On freeboard deck: 84 tons
- Above deck: 134 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 374 lbs / 8 788 Kg = 49,6 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 4,4 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 15,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,14
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,464 / 0,472
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 27,40 ft / 8,35 m, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m
- Forward deck: 34,75 %, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m
- Aft deck: 34,75 %, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 14,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 19,29 ft / 5,88 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168,1 %
Waterplane Area: 30 691 Square feet or 2 851 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 134 lbs/sq ft or 657 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,39
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
109t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
30t for cata + seaplane
30t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
61t for additionnal pumps
12000nm-12kts
6120nm-16kts
3600nm-20kts
1860nm-25kts
1200nm-30kts
A lighter version also studied...ala Panzerschiff
9000t AC, Byzantine Empire Light Panzerschiff laid down 1933
Displacement:
9 000 t light; 9 565 t standard; 10 510 t normal; 11 265 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(563,29 ft / 557,74 ft) x 64,14 ft x (21,07 / 22,19 ft)
(171,69 m / 170,00 m) x 19,55 m x (6,42 / 6,76 m)
Armament:
6 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 307 lbs / 1 500 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 362,53 ft / 110,50 m 9,61 ft / 2,93 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 195,18 ft / 59,49 m 9,61 ft / 2,93 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 362,53 ft / 110,50 m 18,27 ft / 5,57 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 64,14 ft / 19,55 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 69 640 shp / 51 951 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 700 tons
Complement:
518 - 674
Cost:
£4,423 million / $17,692 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 951 tons, 9,1 %
- Guns: 951 tons, 9,1 %
Armour: 2 438 tons, 23,2 %
- Belts: 894 tons, 8,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 386 tons, 3,7 %
- Armament: 103 tons, 1,0 %
- Armour Deck: 977 tons, 9,3 %
- Conning Towers: 77 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 029 tons, 19,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 304 tons, 31,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 510 tons, 14,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 277 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 117 tons
- Above deck: 120 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12 605 lbs / 5 717 Kg = 32,2 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 3,1 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 15,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,67
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,09
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,497
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,50 %, 26,08 ft / 7,95 m, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m
- Forward deck: 32,00 %, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 32,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,53 ft / 5,65 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,7 %
Waterplane Area: 23 578 Square feet or 2 190 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 568 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,55
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
95t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
40t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
Quote from: Jefgte on June 07, 2024, 04:25:27 PM9000t AC, Byzantine Empire Light Panzerschiff laid down 1933
Armament:
6 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
Interesting pair of ships.
I have many of my ships built years after I originally wanted.
In this case, 2 x 2-gun mounts for 6 guns is problematic,
both for not enough barrels (2 x 3-gun/triple needed) and
as these twin 234mm mounts instead of turrets is likely going to be viewed as far to slow rotating/training/ and firing by whomever is overseeing the battle.
Add in that you have heavy armor and the mount and the training weight is even higher. Roughly 1,177 rotating weight vs. 621 for the USN guns that were too slow.
Quote...In this case, 2 x 2-gun mounts for 6 guns is problematic,...
Oups, this is a typo bulet.
9000t AC, Byzantine Empire Light Panzerschiff laid down 1933
Displacement:
9 000 t light; 9 565 t standard; 10 510 t normal; 11 265 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(563,29 ft / 557,74 ft) x 64,14 ft x (21,07 / 22,19 ft)
(171,69 m / 170,00 m) x 19,55 m x (6,42 / 6,76 m)
Armament:
6 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 307 lbs / 1 500 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4,92" / 125 mm 362,53 ft / 110,50 m 9,61 ft / 2,93 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 195,18 ft / 59,49 m 9,61 ft / 2,93 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 362,53 ft / 110,50 m 18,27 ft / 5,57 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 64,14 ft / 19,55 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 69 640 shp / 51 951 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 700 tons
Complement:
518 - 674
Cost:
£4,423 million / $17,692 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 951 tons, 9,1 %
- Guns: 951 tons, 9,1 %
Armour: 2 392 tons, 22,8 %
- Belts: 809 tons, 7,7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 386 tons, 3,7 %
- Armament: 143 tons, 1,4 %
- Armour Deck: 977 tons, 9,3 %
- Conning Towers: 77 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 029 tons, 19,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 350 tons, 31,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 510 tons, 14,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 277 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 117 tons
- Above deck: 120 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12 402 lbs / 5 626 Kg = 31,7 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 15,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,76
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,497
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,70 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,50 %, 26,08 ft / 7,95 m, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m
- Forward deck: 32,00 %, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 32,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,53 ft / 5,65 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,7 %
Waterplane Area: 23 578 Square feet or 2 190 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 574 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,53
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
95t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
40t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
Testing another one with 4T2x234/51 - 10 000t
10 000t AC, Byzantine Empire 4T2x234 laid down 1933
Displacement:
10 000 t light; 10 603 t standard; 11 625 t normal; 12 443 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(622,62 ft / 616,80 ft) x 66,34 ft x (20,38 / 21,44 ft)
(189,77 m / 188,00 m) x 20,22 m x (6,21 / 6,53 m)
Armament:
8 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 857 lbs / 1 750 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 422,51 ft / 128,78 m 9,78 ft / 2,98 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 194,26 ft / 59,21 m 9,78 ft / 2,98 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 422,51 ft / 128,78 m 17,68 ft / 5,39 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 57,48 ft / 17,52 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 70 704 shp / 52 745 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 839 tons
Complement:
559 - 727
Cost:
£4,943 million / $19,773 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 143 tons, 9,8 %
- Guns: 1 143 tons, 9,8 %
Armour: 2 528 tons, 21,7 %
- Belts: 882 tons, 7,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 435 tons, 3,7 %
- Armament: 183 tons, 1,6 %
- Armour Deck: 945 tons, 8,1 %
- Conning Towers: 83 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 060 tons, 17,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 963 tons, 34,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 626 tons, 14,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 306 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 127 tons
- Above deck: 139 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14 403 lbs / 6 533 Kg = 36,8 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 2,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 16,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,84
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,496
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,30 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,25 %, 27,40 ft / 8,35 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Forward deck: 34,25 %, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 34,25 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,25 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,62 ft / 5,68 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 164,7 %
Waterplane Area: 26 968 Square feet or 2 505 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 606 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,25
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
114t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
40t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
50t for additionnal pumps
The critique of the mount vs. turret still holds.
If the rotating weight of the USN 8", power assisted, was too high for smooth operations, and was detrimental in shorter range fights,
then a heavily armored 234mm mount at 262tons without power assist can be expected to have the same- I would at the least assign weight to power assist. We have been using 10% of the gun+mount+armor weight.
QuoteThe critique of the mount vs. turret still holds.
If the rotating weight of the USN 8", power assisted, was too high for smooth operations, and was detrimental in shorter range fights,
then a heavily armored 234mm mount at 262tons without power assist can be expected to have the same- I would at the least assign weight to power assist. We have been using 10% of the gun+mount+armor weight.
Of coures: "turret on barbette mounts"
8 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
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12280t AC, Byzantine Empire 4T2x234 laid down 1933Displacement:
12 280 t light; 12 983 t standard; 14 132 t normal; 15 052 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(635,81 ft / 629,92 ft) x 78,74 ft x (21,04 / 22,04 ft)
(193,80 m / 192,00 m) x 24,00 m x (6,41 / 6,72 m)
Armament:
8 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 089 lbs / 1 855 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 431,50 ft / 131,52 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 198,39 ft / 60,47 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 431,50 ft / 131,52 m 17,91 ft / 5,46 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 62,34 ft / 19,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 289 shp / 59 896 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 069 tons
Complement:
647 - 842
Cost:
£5,588 million / $22,352 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 269 tons, 9,0 %
- Guns: 1 269 tons, 9,0 %
Armour: 3 445 tons, 24,4 %
- Belts: 1 220 tons, 8,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 450 tons, 3,2 %
- Armament: 549 tons, 3,9 %
- Armour Deck: 1 131 tons, 8,0 %
- Conning Towers: 94 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 339 tons, 16,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 838 tons, 34,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 852 tons, 13,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 389 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 60 tons
- On freeboard deck: 177 tons
- Above deck: 152 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 182 lbs / 8 701 Kg = 49,1 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 16,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,49
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,474 / 0,482
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,10 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,25 %, 27,72 ft / 8,45 m, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m
- Forward deck: 34,25 %, 21,16 ft / 6,45 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 34,25 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 14,25 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,72 ft / 5,70 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 170,4 %
Waterplane Area: 32 288 Square feet or 3 000 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 649 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,18
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
127t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
60t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
60t for additionnal pumps
CANCEL
Prens class, Byzantine Empire D16-Colonial Destroyer laid down 1933
Displacement:
1 040 t light; 1 104 t standard; 1 213 t normal; 1 299 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(304,88 ft / 301,84 ft) x 30,18 ft x (11,65 / 12,19 ft)
(92,93 m / 92,00 m) x 9,20 m x (3,55 / 3,71 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 28 580 shp / 21 320 Kw = 31,69 kts
Range 5 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 195 tons
Complement:
102 - 133
Cost:
£0,625 million / $2,501 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 3,4 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 3,4 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 606 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 319 tons, 26,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 173 tons, 14,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 71 tons, 5,9 %
- On freeboard deck: 67 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
340 lbs / 154 Kg = 6,4 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 12,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,32
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,410
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17,37 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m, 15,58 ft / 4,75 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 15,58 ft / 4,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Average freeboard: 13,38 ft / 4,08 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134,9 %
Waterplane Area: 5 608 Square feet or 521 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 66 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 146 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 2,30
- Overall: 0,58
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
Short Marconi
4t for top fire control
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
20t reserve
AW
Climatisation
Trial speed:32,5
Bonus:0,81
CANCEL
Prens class, Byzantine Empire D16-Colonial Destroyer laid down 1933
Displacement:
1 090 t light; 1 156 t standard; 1 289 t normal; 1 396 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(314,72 ft / 311,68 ft) x 31,17 ft x (11,61 / 12,24 ft)
(95,93 m / 95,00 m) x 9,50 m x (3,54 / 3,73 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 29 390 shp / 21 925 Kw = 31,75 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 240 tons
Complement:
106 - 139
Cost:
£0,659 million / $2,637 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 3,2 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 3,2 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 644 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 331 tons, 25,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 200 tons, 15,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 5,4 %
- On freeboard deck: 66 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
367 lbs / 166 Kg = 7,0 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
Metacentric height 1,2 ft / 0,4 m
Roll period: 12,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,27
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,411
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17,65 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m, 15,58 ft / 4,75 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 15,58 ft / 4,75 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Average freeboard: 13,38 ft / 4,08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138,4 %
Waterplane Area: 5 980 Square feet or 556 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 68 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 147 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 2,02
- Overall: 0,57
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
Short Marconi
4t for top fire control
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
5t for night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
14t reserve
AW
Climatisation
Trial speed:32,5
Bonus:0,81
Not to be built.
Always to works in colonies.
TGB500E, Byzantine Empire TGB500E laid down 1933
Displacement:
500 t light; 529 t standard; 574 t normal; 611 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,30 ft / 226,38 ft) x 25,89 ft x (8,28 / 8,63 ft)
(69,89 m / 69,00 m) x 7,89 m x (2,53 / 2,63 m)
Armament:
2 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 200 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 74 lbs / 34 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 7 890 shp / 5 886 Kw = 25,03 kts
Range 5 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 82 tons
Complement:
58 - 76
Cost:
£0,252 million / $1,008 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 14 tons, 2,5 %
- Guns: 14 tons, 2,5 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,7 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 230 tons, 40,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 188 tons, 32,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 74 tons, 12,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 64 tons, 11,1 %
- Hull above water: 2 tons
- On freeboard deck: 36 tons
- Above deck: 26 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
341 lbs / 155 Kg = 10,7 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 12,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,18
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,17
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,414 / 0,422
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,05 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 16,57 ft / 5,05 m, 13,29 ft / 4,05 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 13,29 ft / 4,05 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,02 ft / 2,75 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 9,02 ft / 2,75 m, 9,35 ft / 2,85 m
- Average freeboard: 11,03 ft / 3,36 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 138,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,4 %
Waterplane Area: 3 638 Square feet or 338 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 139 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,64
- Longitudinal: 2,86
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for LR Marconi
1t for top fire control
OD
9t for 1x3TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
4t reserved
AW
2t climatisation
Trial speed: 32kts
Bonus: 2.36
In 1932, Byzantium had 457/40 in T2 and T3. (Furious gun)
Developed to cope with the very large calibers in service in certain navies.
2 projects study from BB8 (34000t - 4T3x381 - 21kts) and
BC8 (37000t - 3T3x381 - 29kts)
2 possibilities to choose from with the same weaponry:
4T2x457 + 8T2x133 - B350
BB10 - 43435t - 24kts => enough to work with all 21kts/24kts BBs
BC9 - 46975t - 27kts => weak to work with actual 4 x BC - 29kts
BB10, Byzantine Empire BB10 laid down 1933
Displacement:
43 435 t light; 46 215 t standard; 48 718 t normal; 50 720 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(738,35 ft / 735,56 ft) x 118,11 ft x (30,86 / 31,93 ft)
(225,05 m / 224,20 m) x 36,00 m x (9,41 / 9,73 m)
Armament:
8 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 3 320,01lbs / 1 505,93kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 5,24" / 133 mm 50,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 27 890 lbs / 12 651 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 478,12 ft / 145,73 m 13,06 ft / 3,98 m
Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 257,41 ft / 78,46 m 13,06 ft / 3,98 m
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 478,12 ft / 145,73 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 478,12 ft / 145,73 m 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 85,30 ft / 26,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15,0" / 380 mm 6,69" / 170 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 1,57" / 40 mm 1,57" / 40 mm
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 6,30" / 160 mm
Forecastle: 3,94" / 100 mm Quarter deck: 4,72" / 120 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 13,78" / 350 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 75 240 shp / 56 129 Kw = 24,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 505 tons
Complement:
1 639 - 2 131
Cost:
£18,000 million / $72,002 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 125 tons, 8,5 %
- Guns: 4 125 tons, 8,5 %
Armour: 18 146 tons, 37,2 %
- Belts: 4 936 tons, 10,1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 028 tons, 2,1 %
- Armament: 4 340 tons, 8,9 %
- Armour Deck: 7 275 tons, 14,9 %
- Conning Towers: 566 tons, 1,2 %
Machinery: 2 192 tons, 4,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 17 821 tons, 36,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 282 tons, 10,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1 152 tons, 2,4 %
- Hull below water: 220 tons
- Hull above water: 220 tons
- On freeboard deck: 250 tons
- Above deck: 462 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
90 014 lbs / 40 830 Kg = 30,9 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 16,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
Metacentric height 8,5 ft / 2,6 m
Roll period: 17,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,80
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,40
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,636 / 0,640
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 31,82 ft / 9,70 m, 25,26 ft / 7,70 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 25,26 ft / 7,70 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m
- Average freeboard: 23,25 ft / 7,09 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171,4 %
Waterplane Area: 65 702 Square feet or 6 104 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 238 lbs/sq ft or 1 164 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,47
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
AD
412t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
OD
50t for 2 scoutplanes + cata
100t for admiral ship
100t reserved
AW
220t for climatisation
BW
220t for extra pumps installation
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BC9, Byzantine Empire BC9 laid down 1933
Displacement:
46 975 t light; 49 769 t standard; 52 401 t normal; 54 506 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(771,16 ft / 768,37 ft) x 121,39 ft x (31,41 / 32,46 ft)
(235,05 m / 234,20 m) x 37,00 m x (9,57 / 9,90 m)
Armament:
8 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 3 320,01lbs / 1 505,93kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 5,24" / 133 mm 50,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 27 538 lbs / 12 491 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 499,44 ft / 152,23 m 13,22 ft / 4,03 m
Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 268,90 ft / 81,96 m 13,22 ft / 4,03 m
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 499,44 ft / 152,23 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 499,44 ft / 152,23 m 29,92 ft / 9,12 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 88,58 ft / 27,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15,0" / 380 mm 6,69" / 170 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 1,57" / 40 mm 1,57" / 40 mm
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 6,30" / 160 mm
Forecastle: 3,94" / 100 mm Quarter deck: 4,72" / 120 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 13,78" / 350 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 121 810 shp / 90 870 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 737 tons
Complement:
1 731 - 2 251
Cost:
£19,484 million / $77,937 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 125 tons, 7,9 %
- Guns: 4 125 tons, 7,9 %
Armour: 19 045 tons, 36,3 %
- Belts: 5 195 tons, 9,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 088 tons, 2,1 %
- Armament: 4 429 tons, 8,5 %
- Armour Deck: 7 740 tons, 14,8 %
- Conning Towers: 594 tons, 1,1 %
Machinery: 3 549 tons, 6,8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 19 044 tons, 36,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 426 tons, 10,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1 212 tons, 2,3 %
- Hull below water: 230 tons
- Hull above water: 230 tons
- On freeboard deck: 290 tons
- Above deck: 462 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
88 129 lbs / 39 975 Kg = 30,3 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 15,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 8,2 ft / 2,5 m
Roll period: 17,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,76
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,17
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,630
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,33 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,72 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 31,82 ft / 9,70 m, 25,92 ft / 7,90 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 25,92 ft / 7,90 m, 22,64 ft / 6,90 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 22,64 ft / 6,90 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Average freeboard: 23,97 ft / 7,31 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178,4 %
Waterplane Area: 69 890 Square feet or 6 493 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 238 lbs/sq ft or 1 162 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,39
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
412t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
OD
50t for 2 scoutplanes + cata
40t for night fighting
100t for admiral ship
100t reserved
AW
230t for climatisation
BW
230t for extra pumps installation
I'd spend the extra for the faster ship, myself.
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on June 30, 2024, 11:55:08 AMI'd spend the extra for the faster ship, myself.
I think Byzantine should look for about 10 knots max... and no more than 320mm guns.
but only like 1 per hull....
QuoteI think Byzantine should look for about 10 knots max... and no more than 320mm guns.
but only like 1 per hull....
Byzantine must built 160 TGB - 2x102 + 4x40 + 3TTx533 - 25kts but no 2 x 40 000t battleships.
Quote from: Kaiser Kirk on June 30, 2024, 12:50:47 PMQuote from: The Rock Doctor on June 30, 2024, 11:55:08 AMI'd spend the extra for the faster ship, myself.
I think Byzantine should look for about 10 knots max... and no more than 320mm guns.
but only like 1 per hull....
Be curious to see how many he could build in those parameters.
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on June 30, 2024, 11:55:08 AMI'd spend the extra for the faster ship, myself.
Agreed, 24knts is just not competitive as it will have the range held against anything modern. 3000t to buy at least exist in the same speed band as other modern ships is very worth it.
My normal practice is to keep my comments on Byzantine ships to technical critiques, not strategic evaluations :)
Looking Furious 457/40 gun on NavWeapons, I read that a 4000lb HE was possible for that gun.
I can imagine the considerable damage that this type of shell would produce on a ship. The superstructures will be ravaged and the ship disabled or greatly diminished. I am testing an SS with 2T2x457 and 2T3x234 to guide the firing of the 457s.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_18-40_mk1.php
24800t Cruiser, Byzantine Empire Large Cruiser laid down 1933
Displacement:
24 800 t light; 26 208 t standard; 27 974 t normal; 29 386 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(740,17 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,07 / 28,10 ft)
(225,60 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,25 / 8,56 m)
Armament:
4 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 4 000,00lbs / 1 814,37kg shells, 60 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, majority forward
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 19 075 lbs / 8 652 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 492,39 ft / 150,08 m 11,52 ft / 3,51 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 242,49 ft / 73,91 m 11,52 ft / 3,51 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 492,39 ft / 150,08 m 24,41 ft / 7,44 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 98,43 ft / 30,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 6,69" / 170 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 117 869 shp / 87 930 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 177 tons
Complement:
1 080 - 1 405
Cost:
£12,130 million / $48,521 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 761 tons, 9,9 %
- Guns: 2 761 tons, 9,9 %
Armour: 5 458 tons, 19,5 %
- Belts: 1 532 tons, 5,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 700 tons, 2,5 %
- Armament: 1 013 tons, 3,6 %
- Armour Deck: 2 002 tons, 7,2 %
- Conning Towers: 211 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 3 434 tons, 12,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 12 747 tons, 45,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 174 tons, 11,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 399 tons, 1,4 %
- Hull below water: 120 tons
- Hull above water: 61 tons
- On freeboard deck: 84 tons
- Above deck: 134 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
37 378 lbs / 16 955 Kg = 12,8 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 5,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
Metacentric height 6,4 ft / 1,9 m
Roll period: 16,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,93
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,13
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,506
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 29,86 ft / 9,10 m, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Average freeboard: 21,11 ft / 6,44 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 173,6 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 222 lbs/sq ft or 1 082 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,63
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
276t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
60t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
120t for additionnal pumps
12000nm-12kts
6120nm-16kts
3600nm-20kts
1860nm-25kts
1200nm-30kts
"3. ^HE rounds could be as large as 4,000 lbs. (1,814 kg) but there is no evidence that shells of this size were ever built."
While the gun is certainly historical, there's no indication those shells were built and so functioned.
the 1506kg normal rounds are quite large though :)
I do believe you 'win' the big gun award though...unless I develop my 21" torpedo firing gun...
Until I field my 500mm/45 somehow, he wins.
Update TGB540 to TGB770 - Prens class
Speed update from 25kts to 27kts to work with Colonial Cruisers.
Range increase from 5000nm to 6000nm.
3M2x40 => 4M2x40 pompom
1x3TTx533 => 1x5TTx533
This class use the 2T2x120/45 Mlle 1930 from C13 class (40t)
770t => 0.73BP
Prens class, Byzantine Empire TGB770 laid down 1933
Displacement:
770 t light; 832 t standard; 942 t normal; 1 031 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(262,31 ft / 259,19 ft) x 26,25 ft x (11,17 / 11,89 ft)
(79,95 m / 79,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,41 / 3,62 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 220 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 13 800 shp / 10 295 Kw = 27,02 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 199 tons
Complement:
84 - 110
Cost:
£0,439 million / $1,754 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 4,3 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 4,3 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,4 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,4 %
Machinery: 391 tons, 41,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 273 tons, 29,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 172 tons, 18,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 62 tons, 6,6 %
- On freeboard deck: 58 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
417 lbs / 189 Kg = 7,9 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 12,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,17
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,434 / 0,446
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,87 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16,10 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 14,11 ft / 4,30 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 14,11 ft / 4,30 m, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 10,83 ft / 3,30 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 10,17 ft / 3,10 m
- Average freeboard: 11,92 ft / 3,63 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 148,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110,8 %
Waterplane Area: 4 285 Square feet or 398 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 160 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,64
- Longitudinal: 3,03
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for LR Marconi
4t for top fire control
OD
15t for 1x5TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
20t reserve for new armament, material, minen
AW
Climatisation
After Ramses II & Seti I, battleships Bekatra & Salehi need refurbishment.
These classes are similar in armaments, speed & protection
(26000t - 1909 & 25850t - 1913)
191 & 120mm guns removed => 8T2x114 DP
Deck armor: 100mm was 80
Coal boilers => oil boilers
1930 techno equipment.
Cost 8.347$ & 2.085BP per ship.
Byzantine Empire - 1913 improved BB5- Ramses II class laid down 1913 (Engine 1933)
Bekatra - Salehi
Displacement:
26 510 t light; 28 235 t standard; 29 630 t normal; 30 745 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (26,58 / 27,41 ft)
(190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m x (8,10 / 8,35 m)
Armament:
12 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,01lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
4 x Triple mounts on centreline, evenly spread
1 raised mount
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 17 881 lbs / 8 111 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 406,00 ft / 123,75 m 11,81 ft / 3,60 m
Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 215,69 ft / 65,74 m 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
1,67 ft / 0,51 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5,51" / 140 mm 406,00 ft / 123,75 m 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1,50" / 38 mm 406,00 ft / 123,75 m 24,76 ft / 7,55 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 92,00 ft / 28,04 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 3,15" / 80 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 9,84" / 250 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 35 000 shp / 26 110 Kw = 21,02 kts
Range 9 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 510 tons
Complement:
1 128 - 1 467
Cost:
£2,763 million / $11,051 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 779 tons, 9,4 %
- Guns: 2 779 tons, 9,4 %
Armour: 10 889 tons, 36,7 %
- Belts: 4 502 tons, 15,2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 556 tons, 1,9 %
- Armament: 2 157 tons, 7,3 %
- Armour Deck: 3 194 tons, 10,8 %
- Conning Towers: 479 tons, 1,6 %
Machinery: 1 020 tons, 3,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 035 tons, 37,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 120 tons, 10,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 788 tons, 2,7 %
- Hull below water: 145 tons
- Hull above water: 150 tons
- On freeboard deck: 165 tons
- Above deck: 328 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
50 490 lbs / 22 902 Kg = 41,0 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 9,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,0 m
Roll period: 16,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,77
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,36
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,630
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 27,66 ft / 8,43 m, 22,60 ft / 6,89 m
- Forward deck: 52,00 %, 20,83 ft / 6,35 m, 20,01 ft / 6,10 m
- Aft deck: 13,00 %, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
- Average freeboard: 18,66 ft / 5,69 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,8 %
Waterplane Area: 46 708 Square feet or 4 339 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 197 lbs/sq ft or 963 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,48
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight: 838t
AD:
25t for Marconi
278t for Top Fire Control
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
50t for cata + 2 floatplanes
15t for night fighting
100t reserved
AW:
130t for climatisation
20t reserved
BW:
130t for additional pumps installation
15t for enhanced hydrophone
USS Alaska in panzerschiff style
A good escort for CV.
Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1933
Displacement:
14 900 t light; 15 787 t standard; 17 063 t normal; 18 083 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(619,44 ft / 613,52 ft) x 79,13 ft x (23,88 / 24,97 ft)
(188,81 m / 187,00 m) x 24,12 m x (7,28 / 7,61 m)
Armament:
6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 50,0 cal guns - 949,99lbs / 430,91kg shells, 105 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 6 661 lbs / 3 021 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 435,60 ft / 132,77 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 177,89 ft / 54,22 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Upper: 1,57" / 40 mm 435,60 ft / 132,77 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 435,60 ft / 132,77 m 21,33 ft / 6,50 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 62,34 ft / 19,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9,45" / 240 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 7,09" / 180 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 077 shp / 69 435 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 295 tons
Complement:
746 - 970
Cost:
£7,131 million / $28,525 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 480 tons, 8,7 %
- Guns: 1 480 tons, 8,7 %
Armour: 4 451 tons, 26,1 %
- Belts: 1 704 tons, 10,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 541 tons, 3,2 %
- Armament: 654 tons, 3,8 %
- Armour Deck: 1 383 tons, 8,1 %
- Conning Towers: 169 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 2 712 tons, 15,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 780 tons, 33,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 162 tons, 12,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 477 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- Hull above water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 154 tons
- Above deck: 173 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21 589 lbs / 9 793 Kg = 24,9 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 16,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,515 / 0,522
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,00 %, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m
- Forward deck: 35,50 %, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Aft deck: 35,50 %, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Quarter deck: 14,00 %, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Average freeboard: 20,27 ft / 6,18 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165,5 %
Waterplane Area: 32 796 Square feet or 3 047 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 720 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,54
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
148t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
50t for 2 armed seaplanes + cata
20t for night fighting
20t for Hulsmeyer
40t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps
Update 12330t cruiser with better armor
12900t Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC-3T3x234 laid down 1933
Displacement:
12 950 t light; 13 684 t standard; 14 862 t normal; 15 803 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(628,22 ft / 623,36 ft) x 77,10 ft x (23,23 / 24,29 ft)
(191,48 m / 190,00 m) x 23,50 m x (7,08 / 7,40 m)
Armament:
9 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 480 lbs / 2 032 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 420,77 ft / 128,25 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 202,56 ft / 61,74 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 420,77 ft / 128,25 m 19,49 ft / 5,94 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,70 ft / 18,50 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 5,91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 82 468 shp / 61 521 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 119 tons
Complement:
672 - 874
Cost:
£5,784 million / $23,136 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 091 tons, 7,3 %
- Guns: 1 091 tons, 7,3 %
Armour: 3 964 tons, 26,7 %
- Belts: 1 429 tons, 9,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 478 tons, 3,2 %
- Armament: 593 tons, 4,0 %
- Armour Deck: 1 320 tons, 8,9 %
- Conning Towers: 144 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 2 403 tons, 16,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 101 tons, 34,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 912 tons, 12,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 392 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 65 tons
- Hull above water: 61 tons
- On freeboard deck: 132 tons
- Above deck: 134 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20 321 lbs / 9 217 Kg = 52,0 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 15,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,466 / 0,474
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,25 %, 27,56 ft / 8,40 m, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m
- Forward deck: 33,75 %, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m
- Aft deck: 33,75 %, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,25 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 19,36 ft / 5,90 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 164,3 %
Waterplane Area: 31 071 Square feet or 2 887 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 658 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,37
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
109t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
30t for cata + seaplane
20t for Hulsmeyer
20t for night fighting
38t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
65t for additionnal pumps
12000nm-12kts
6120nm-16kts
3600nm-20kts
1860nm-25kts
1200nm-30kts
Panzerschiffes your Alaska......It's a good ship.....it's also the 'bullpups your rifle' of ships, which means it's both a good ship, and funny to think about.
Quote from: Jefgte on July 15, 2024, 04:23:29 PMUSS Alaska in panzerschiff style
A good escort for CV.
Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1933
Displacement:
14 900 t light; 15 787 t standard; 17 063 t normal; 18 083 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(619,44 ft / 613,52 ft) x 79,13 ft x (23,88 / 24,97 ft)
(188,81 m / 187,00 m) x 24,12 m x (7,28 / 7,61 m)
Armament:
6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 50,0 cal guns - 949,99lbs / 430,91kg shells, 105 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 6 661 lbs / 3 021 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 435,60 ft / 132,77 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 177,89 ft / 54,22 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Upper: 1,57" / 40 mm 435,60 ft / 132,77 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 435,60 ft / 132,77 m 21,33 ft / 6,50 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 62,34 ft / 19,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9,45" / 240 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 7,09" / 180 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 077 shp / 69 435 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 295 tons
Complement:
746 - 970
Cost:
£7,131 million / $28,525 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 480 tons, 8,7 %
- Guns: 1 480 tons, 8,7 %
Armour: 4 451 tons, 26,1 %
- Belts: 1 704 tons, 10,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 541 tons, 3,2 %
- Armament: 654 tons, 3,8 %
- Armour Deck: 1 383 tons, 8,1 %
- Conning Towers: 169 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 2 712 tons, 15,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 780 tons, 33,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 162 tons, 12,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 477 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- Hull above water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 154 tons
- Above deck: 173 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21 589 lbs / 9 793 Kg = 24,9 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 16,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,515 / 0,522
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,00 %, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m
- Forward deck: 35,50 %, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Aft deck: 35,50 %, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Quarter deck: 14,00 %, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Average freeboard: 20,27 ft / 6,18 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165,5 %
Waterplane Area: 32 796 Square feet or 3 047 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 720 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,54
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
148t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
50t for 2 armed seaplanes + cata
20t for night fighting
20t for Hulsmeyer
40t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps
AC5 - 28500t - Eupatoria & Enteia need refurbishment.
1930 engines (always 29kts)
New bow to be better seaboat
New 133/45DP for secondary & better deck armor.
1930 technos materials.
| AC5 | Eupatoria | | Refurbishment 1933 | | | |
| 28500t =>28590t | | 0,2$ - 0BP | 5,718 | 0 | |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP | |
| new guns | 66t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,132 | 0,066 | |
| new mounts | 266t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,266 | 0,266 | |
| new armour | 55t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,055 | 0,055 | |
| new engines | 3555t | 2$ => 1BP | 7,11 | 3,555 | |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0t | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 | |
| new belt | 38t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,038 | 0,038 | 98 =>100% |
| new deck | 790t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,79 | 0,79 | 80 =>100 |
| new bow | 367t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,367 | 0,367 | |
| | | | 14,476 | 5,137 | |
| old guns | 42t | 15% | 0,042 | 0,042 | |
| old mounts | 72t | 15% | 0,072 | 0,072 | |
| old armor | 51t | 15% | 0,051 | 0,051 | |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 | |
| old engines | 5041t | 15% | 5,04 | 5,04 | |
| | | 15% | 0,78 | 0,78 | |
| Final cost | 14,476- 0,78 => | | | 13,7$ | | |
| Final cost | 5,137 - 0,78 => | | | | 4,357BP | |
Eupatoria - Enteia, Byzantine Empire AC5 laid down 1910 (Engine 1933)
Displacement:
28 590 t light; 30 220 t standard; 31 890 t normal; 33 226 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(722,56 ft / 721,00 ft) x 103,02 ft x (25,69 / 26,56 ft)
(220,24 m / 219,76 m) x 31,40 m x (7,83 / 8,10 m)
Armament:
9 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,01lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model
3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
16 - 5,24" / 133 mm 45,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
32 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 14 035 lbs / 6 366 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 469,85 ft / 143,21 m 9,00 ft / 2,74 m
Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 251,15 ft / 76,55 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 469,85 ft / 143,21 m 13,00 ft / 3,96 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1,50" / 38 mm 469,85 ft / 143,21 m 23,36 ft / 7,12 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 87,99 ft / 26,82 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
3rd: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 0,79" / 20 mm
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,77" / 45 mm Quarter deck: 3,15" / 80 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10,63" / 270 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 122 000 shp / 91 012 Kw = 29,21 kts
Range 10 225nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 006 tons
Complement:
1 193 - 1 551
Cost:
£2,654 million / $10,618 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 265 tons, 7,1 %
- Guns: 2 265 tons, 7,1 %
Armour: 9 988 tons, 31,3 %
- Belts: 3 612 tons, 11,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 608 tons, 1,9 %
- Armament: 1 809 tons, 5,7 %
- Armour Deck: 3 644 tons, 11,4 %
- Conning Towers: 316 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 3 555 tons, 11,1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 965 tons, 37,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 300 tons, 10,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 816 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 140 tons
- Hull above water: 140 tons
- On freeboard deck: 285 tons
- Above deck: 251 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
47 148 lbs / 21 386 Kg = 38,3 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 7,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,0 m
Roll period: 16,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,585 / 0,589
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,85 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 3,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 29,79 ft / 9,08 m, 23,06 ft / 7,03 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 23,06 ft / 7,03 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Quarter deck: 18,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 21,41 ft / 6,52 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 174,4 %
Waterplane Area: 53 567 Square feet or 4 977 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 181 lbs/sq ft or 882 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,22
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Misc Weight: 816t
OD
25t for LR Marconi
226t for Top mast fire control - 1930
OD
25t for Huelsmeyer
32t for 2x4TTx533 HW
50t for cata+2 seaplanes
25t for night fighting
100t for Admiral Staff
53t reserved
AW
140t for climatisation
BW
140t for additionnal pumps
Quote from: Jefgte on July 27, 2024, 07:39:53 AMAC5 - 28500t - Eupatoria & Enteia need refurbishment.
1930 engines (always 29kts)
New bow to be better seaboat
New 133/45DP for secondary & better deck armor.
1930 technos materials.
As you know, I've been doing a ton of refits and refurbishments,
Part of that is to keep up with the Byzantines, as I scrapped and built new I would have fewer hulls for all my needs.
But...sometimes I think I should have just scrapped all my old ships so I could build MORE shiny new ones.
Quote1933 CV new rules => Modifs SS from CV3 class - 20940t - LD 1932
Quote
Ships can undergo a Basic Refit when the hull is 75% completed for no additional cost or modification to construction time.
Puzuldeniz 13340t => 64% built
Kripodeniz 8840t => 42% built
To install an armored deck and a reinforced hangar floor, the armor distribution is changed.
It was 3376t and becomes 3767t.
To find the 390 t, :
8 x 191/45 removed
The length of the armored citadel is reduced from 208m to 145m
(65% of the length)
The number of aircraft is reduced to 56.
Misc weight adjusted.
Hull and engines => no modifs.
Pusuldeniz - Kripodeniz,
Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-56 aircrafts laid down 1932Displacement:
21 050 t light; 21 737 t standard; 23 586 t normal; 25 065 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(730,76 ft / 728,35 ft) x 91,86 ft x (24,68 / 25,84 ft)
(222,74 m / 222,00 m) x 28,00 m x (7,52 / 7,88 m)
Armament:
16 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 340 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 578 lbs / 262 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 475,72 ft / 145,00 m 11,52 ft / 3,51 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 11,52 ft / 3,51 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 475,72 ft / 145,00 m 21,72 ft / 6,62 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 2,95" / 75 mm
Forecastle: 0,00" / 0 mm Quarter deck: 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 105 820 shp / 78 942 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 328 tons
Complement:
951 - 1 237
Cost:
£5,465 million / $21,861 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 108 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 108 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 3 767 tons, 16,0 %
- Belts: 579 tons, 2,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 753 tons, 3,2 %
- Armament: 10 tons, 0,0 %
- Armour Deck: 2 425 tons, 10,3 %
Machinery: 3 123 tons, 13,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 596 tons, 36,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 536 tons, 10,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 5 456 tons, 23,1 %
- Hull below water: 2 750 tons
- Hull above water: 2 450 tons
- On freeboard deck: 220 tons
- Above deck: 36 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
59 702 lbs / 27 080 Kg = 552,8 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 8,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
Roll period: 14,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,04
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,507
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,93 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 6,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Forward deck: 47,00 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 47,00 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 0,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 38,27 ft / 11,66 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351,2 %
Waterplane Area: 44 579 Square feet or 4 142 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 150 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 578 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,88
- Longitudinal: 3,31
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
1933 Armored box carrier techno
50mm Flight Deck
25mm Hanger Deck
misc weight: 5456t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
11t for 1930 fire control
OD
120t for Climatisation
100t for Fire Fighting
HAW
2080t for 26 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
100t for Fire Fighting
150t for aircrafts spare parts
HBW
2400t for 30 aircrafts
100t for Fire Fighting
100t for additionnal pumps
150t reserved for material...
Update the 12900t Cruiser, in the PLAN, with better armor
13400t Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1933
Displacement:
13 400 t light; 14 169 t standard; 15 567 t normal; 16 685 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(628,22 ft / 623,36 ft) x 77,10 ft x (24,33 / 25,59 ft)
(191,48 m / 190,00 m) x 23,50 m x (7,42 / 7,80 m)
Armament:
9 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 390,99lbs / 177,35kg shells, 125 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1933 Model
3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 480 lbs / 2 032 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 411,42 ft / 125,40 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 211,91 ft / 64,59 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 411,42 ft / 125,40 m 20,51 ft / 6,25 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,70 ft / 18,50 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9,84" / 250 mm 2,95" / 75 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 84 810 shp / 63 269 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 516 tons
Complement:
696 - 905
Cost:
£5,904 million / $23,614 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 091 tons, 7,0 %
- Guns: 1 091 tons, 7,0 %
Armour: 4 250 tons, 27,3 %
- Belts: 1 516 tons, 9,7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 492 tons, 3,2 %
- Armament: 775 tons, 5,0 %
- Armour Deck: 1 319 tons, 8,5 %
- Conning Towers: 148 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 2 471 tons, 15,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 207 tons, 33,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 167 tons, 13,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 381 tons, 2,4 %
- Hull below water: 67 tons
- Hull above water: 66 tons
- On freeboard deck: 104 tons
- Above deck: 144 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21 091 lbs / 9 567 Kg = 53,9 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m
Roll period: 16,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,13
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,466 / 0,475
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,56 ft / 8,40 m, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 19,36 ft / 5,90 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158,9 %
Waterplane Area: 31 071 Square feet or 2 887 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 664 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,39
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
109t for top fire control - 1930
25t for Marconi
20t hulesmeyer
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
30t for cata + seaplane
20t for nigth fighting
30t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
67t for additionnal pumps
With the increasing number of aircraft carriers and the threat of aviation against ships, Byzantine Empire evolved the "DD" destroyers to "DA" more equipped with anti-aircraft weapons and intended to be manufactured in numbers. (Atlanta & Dido classes were considered too specialized and too expensive).
Fleet Destroyer, Byzantine Empire DA1650 laid down 1934
Displacement:
1 650 t light; 1 769 t standard; 2 057 t normal; 2 288 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(385,21 ft / 380,58 ft) x 38,06 ft x (12,30 / 13,21 ft)
(117,41 m / 116,00 m) x 11,60 m x (3,75 / 4,03 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 4-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 264 lbs / 120 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 40 068 shp / 29 891 Kw = 32,68 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 519 tons
Complement:
152 - 198
Cost:
£1,041 million / $4,165 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 2,0 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 2,0 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 1 028 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 487 tons, 23,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 407 tons, 19,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 4,4 %
- On freeboard deck: 86 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
610 lbs / 276 Kg = 13,5 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 11,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,404 / 0,419
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,51 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 21,82 ft / 6,65 m, 17,55 ft / 5,35 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 17,55 ft / 5,35 m, 12,96 ft / 3,95 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 12,96 ft / 3,95 m, 11,65 ft / 3,55 m
- Quarter deck: 15,50 %, 11,65 ft / 3,55 m, 11,73 ft / 3,58 m
- Average freeboard: 14,41 ft / 4,39 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 169,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,3 %
Waterplane Area: 8 936 Square feet or 830 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 82 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 160 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,21
- Overall: 0,54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for top fire control - 1930
Short Marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533 HW
5t for night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
10t for sonar
6t for 18x180kg DC
2t for paravanes
16t reserved for new material, armament.
AW
Climatisation
Trial speed: 33kts
Bonus: 0.32
3900nm-18kts
3000nm-20kts
1000nm-30kts
I've found the Atlanta/Dido also too expensive. I've rebuilt a couple old cruisers to explore the role, but my choosing guns&armor over speed mean most of my ships have good secondaries, and I just did extensive refits to update my fleet AA. So the need for a CLAA seems lower. The new DD classes mount DP guns as it is.
More economical than DA 1650t & Built for colonial works.
=> Built in 100m shipyards
D16, Byzantine Empire DA-Colonial Destroyer laid down 1934
Displacement:
1 250 t light; 1 358 t standard; 1 541 t normal; 1 688 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(327,95 ft / 324,80 ft) x 32,48 ft x (12,66 / 13,44 ft)
(99,96 m / 99,00 m) x 9,90 m x (3,86 / 4,10 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 4-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 264 lbs / 120 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32 500 shp / 24 245 Kw = 31,80 kts
Range 7 500nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 329 tons
Complement:
122 - 159
Cost:
£0,795 million / $3,182 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 2,7 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 2,7 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 770 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 368 tons, 23,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 291 tons, 18,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 67 tons, 4,3 %
- On freeboard deck: 63 tons
- Above deck: 4 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
421 lbs / 191 Kg = 9,3 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26
Metacentric height 1,4 ft / 0,4 m
Roll period: 11,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,26
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,404 / 0,416
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18,02 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 19,85 ft / 6,05 m, 15,91 ft / 4,85 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 15,91 ft / 4,85 m, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 12,30 ft / 3,75 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Quarter deck: 15,50 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,65 ft / 3,55 m
- Average freeboard: 13,52 ft / 4,12 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131,7 %
Waterplane Area: 6 509 Square feet or 605 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 76 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 151 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,81
- Overall: 0,56
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for top fire control
Short Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533 HW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
5t for night fighting
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
11t reserved
AW
Climatisation
Trial speed: 32,5kts
Bonus: 0.7
Comparable to my Robah 'Fox' class, but I consider that a fleet destroyer.
We make slightly different choices, and yours is a couple years newer.
With the 12 knot cruise at first I thought it was very short legged, but you have
a long range at that speed, so we have almost identical bunker loads.
This class is an update of 3000t - 1928 - C12 class
with new 6"/50 guns (HMS Ajax guns) & Better armor.
Rasthu - Ryshma, Byzantine Empire C18 laid down 1934
Displacement:
3 000 t light; 3 176 t standard; 3 582 t normal; 3 906 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(441,25 ft / 436,35 ft) x 45,93 ft x (13,20 / 14,07 ft)
(134,49 m / 133,00 m) x 14,00 m x (4,02 / 4,29 m)
Armament:
6 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 111,99lbs / 50,80kg shells, 180 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 4-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 705 lbs / 320 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 312,01 ft / 95,10 m 8,14 ft / 2,48 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,76" / 70 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,57" / 40 mm
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,76" / 70 mm, Aft 0,98" / 25 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 33 964 shp / 25 337 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 731 tons
Complement:
230 - 300
Cost:
£1,547 million / $6,187 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 208 tons, 5,8 %
- Guns: 208 tons, 5,8 %
Armour: 643 tons, 18,0 %
- Belts: 304 tons, 8,5 %
- Armament: 38 tons, 1,1 %
- Armour Deck: 282 tons, 7,9 %
- Conning Towers: 19 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 977 tons, 27,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 067 tons, 29,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 582 tons, 16,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 105 tons, 2,9 %
- Hull below water: 15 tons
- On freeboard deck: 44 tons
- Above deck: 46 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2 901 lbs / 1 316 Kg = 27,1 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 14,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,474 / 0,485
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20,89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 14,75 %, 23,03 ft / 7,02 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 35,75 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m
- Aft deck: 35,75 %, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m, 12,57 ft / 3,83 m
- Quarter deck: 13,75 %, 12,57 ft / 3,83 m, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
- Average freeboard: 14,81 ft / 4,51 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,5 %
Waterplane Area: 13 047 Square feet or 1 212 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 59 lbs/sq ft or 287 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,72
- Longitudinal: 1,06
- Overall: 0,75
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
21t for Long Range Marconi
25t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
10t for Night Fighting
10t reserved for new materials, armaments
AW
climatisation
BW
15t for additionnal pumps
Fleet Tender, Byzantine Empire 8000t Fleet Tender laid down 1934
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 221 t standard; 8 953 t normal; 9 539 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(470,97 ft / 465,88 ft) x 72,18 ft x (15,53 / 16,36 ft)
(143,55 m / 142,00 m) x 22,00 m x (4,73 / 4,99 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 149 lbs / 67 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 10 274 shp / 7 664 Kw = 18,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 318 tons
Complement:
459 - 598
Cost:
£1,614 million / $6,455 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 29 tons, 0,3 %
- Guns: 29 tons, 0,3 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,1 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 296 tons, 3,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 511 tons, 28,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 954 tons, 10,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 5 160 tons, 57,6 %
- Hull below water: 2 910 tons
- Hull above water: 2 100 tons
- On freeboard deck: 150 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17 156 lbs / 7 782 Kg = 529,8 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,67
Metacentric height 7,2 ft / 2,2 m
Roll period: 11,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,73
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,607
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,45 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21,58 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 23,95 ft / 7,30 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Aft deck: 30,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Average freeboard: 16,27 ft / 4,96 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,0 %
Waterplane Area: 24 594 Square feet or 2 285 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 154 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 383 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,12
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight; 5160t
OD
25t for 4 cranes
50t for different store
AW
1900t of oil
200t for amunitions, food & different materials
BW
2500t of oil
410t for amunitions, foods & different materials
Oiler or Tender?
The 50+200+410 = 650t "Resupply" or "Fleet Supply"
As that just supports a cruiser (6500t)
But is the 1900+2500 = 4400t "of oil" also meant as "resupply" ?
Or a means of refueling the fleet when the standard supply train may not be sufficient ?
"squadron supply ship" with fuel, food, ammunition and various materials.
Squadron Supply Ship, Byzantine Empire 10000t Supply Ship laid down 1934
Displacement:
10 000 t light; 10 265 t standard; 11 101 t normal; 11 770 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(490,66 ft / 485,56 ft) x 75,46 ft x (16,94 / 17,79 ft)
(149,55 m / 148,00 m) x 23,00 m x (5,16 / 5,42 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 149 lbs / 67 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 11 661 shp / 8 699 Kw = 18,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 505 tons
Complement:
539 - 702
Cost:
£1,985 million / $7,939 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 29 tons, 0,3 %
- Guns: 29 tons, 0,3 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 335 tons, 3,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 931 tons, 26,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 101 tons, 9,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 700 tons, 60,4 %
- Hull below water: 4 000 tons
- Hull above water: 2 550 tons
- On freeboard deck: 150 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 804 lbs / 8 983 Kg = 611,6 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,71
Metacentric height 8,0 ft / 2,4 m
Roll period: 11,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,71
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,632
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,43 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 23,95 ft / 7,30 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Aft deck: 30,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Average freeboard: 16,27 ft / 4,96 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,2 %
Waterplane Area: 27 454 Square feet or 2 551 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 403 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,99
- Longitudinal: 1,06
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight; 6700t
OD
25t for 4 cranes
50t for different store
AW
2350t of oil
200t for amunitions, food & different materials
BW
3500t of oil
500t for amunitions, foods & different materials
Byzantium is satisfied with its 8000t cruisers and continues the series.
Same armament, same armor.
Speed increases to 31kts and minor adjustments.
Patuh - Prukho, Byzantine Empire C15 laid down 1934
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 574 t standard; 9 533 t normal; 10 300 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(574,10 ft / 570,87 ft) x 63,06 ft x (19,23 / 20,37 ft)
(174,98 m / 174,00 m) x 19,22 m x (5,86 / 6,21 m)
Armament:
12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 3 129 lbs / 1 419 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 382,48 ft / 116,58 m 9,51 ft / 2,90 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 188,35 ft / 57,41 m 9,51 ft / 2,90 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 73 552 shp / 54 870 Kw = 31,00 kts
Range 13 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 726 tons
Complement:
482 - 627
Cost:
£4,282 million / $17,130 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 840 tons, 8,8 %
- Guns: 840 tons, 8,8 %
Armour: 1 594 tons, 16,7 %
- Belts: 681 tons, 7,1 %
- Armament: 114 tons, 1,2 %
- Armour Deck: 734 tons, 7,7 %
- Conning Towers: 65 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 116 tons, 22,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 176 tons, 33,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 533 tons, 16,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 274 tons, 2,9 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 105 tons
- Above deck: 129 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
9 382 lbs / 4 256 Kg = 44,1 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,9 m
Roll period: 15,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,80
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,482 / 0,492
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,05 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,00 %, 26,31 ft / 8,02 m, 20,73 ft / 6,32 m
- Forward deck: 33,75 %, 20,73 ft / 6,32 m, 17,13 ft / 5,22 m
- Aft deck: 33,25 %, 17,13 ft / 5,22 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,49 ft / 5,64 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 166,5 %
Waterplane Area: 23 599 Square feet or 2 192 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 496 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,86
- Longitudinal: 1,24
- Overall: 0,90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
84t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
20t for nightfighting
25t for 1 seaplane + cata
28t reserved for new materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
4 x 4650t Armored Gun Boats were scrapped in 1933H2.
In parallel with the 8000t cruisers, Byzantium built 4100t AGBs to protect the "big ones" from DDs and aircraft.
They are also capable of working in addition to the 8000t.
3T2 x 152/50 (HMS Ajax guns) were preferred to 4T1x191/45 for the volume of fire.
Fleet Cruiser, Byzantine Empire C18 - AGB4100 laid down 1934
Displacement:
4 100 t light; 4 345 t standard; 4 838 t normal; 5 233 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(491,62 ft / 485,56 ft) x 52,49 ft x (13,73 / 14,55 ft)
(149,85 m / 148,00 m) x 16,00 m x (4,18 / 4,44 m)
Armament:
6 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 111,99lbs / 50,80kg shells, 180 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 969 lbs / 439 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 336,48 ft / 102,56 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 149,05 ft / 45,43 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 1,57" / 40 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,76" / 70 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 45 400 shp / 33 868 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 888 tons
Complement:
289 - 377
Cost:
£2,024 million / $8,096 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 258 tons, 5,3 %
- Guns: 258 tons, 5,3 %
Armour: 883 tons, 18,3 %
- Belts: 400 tons, 8,3 %
- Armament: 46 tons, 1,0 %
- Armour Deck: 413 tons, 8,5 %
- Conning Towers: 24 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 1 306 tons, 27,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 460 tons, 30,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 738 tons, 15,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 193 tons, 4,0 %
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 102 tons
- Above deck: 71 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 420 lbs / 2 005 Kg = 41,3 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,484 / 0,494
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,85 %, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m
- Forward deck: 34,65 %, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m
- Aft deck: 34,65 %, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 14,85 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m
- Average freeboard: 16,89 ft / 5,15 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180,1 %
Waterplane Area: 16 740 Square feet or 1 555 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 311 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,72
- Longitudinal: 1,03
- Overall: 0,75
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
26t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD-95t
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
10t for night fighting
14t for Enhanced Hydrophone
6t for 30 x 195kg DC
25t for cata + seaplane
15t reserved for new materials, armaments.
AW
climatisation
BW
20t for additionnal pumps
Byzantine is going to scrapp old PDN Uparty & Nieustra, Laid down in 1899 & refurb. in 1925.
These old hulls have received 254 & 152 Mlle 1925 guns. These guns, not too old, can be mounted on gunboats or colonial cruisers to strengthen the Colonial Fleets...
Uparty - Nieustra
Armament:
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 105 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 105 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 175 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
...
Fast gunboat, a kind of heavy destroyer...
AGB3000, Byzantine Empire AGB3000 laid down 1935
Displacement:
3 000 t light; 3 128 t standard; 3 413 t normal; 3 641 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(490,72 ft / 485,56 ft) x 48,56 ft x (11,41 / 11,94 ft)
(149,57 m / 148,00 m) x 14,80 m x (3,48 / 3,64 m)
Armament:
4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 417 lbs / 189 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,38" / 35 mm
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Box over machinery & magazines:
1,38" / 35 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,38" / 35 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 35 533 shp / 26 508 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 514 tons
Complement:
223 - 290
Cost:
£1,467 million / $5,869 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 119 tons, 3,5 %
- Guns: 119 tons, 3,5 %
Armour: 560 tons, 16,4 %
- Armament: 34 tons, 1,0 %
- Armour Deck: 520 tons, 15,2 %
- Conning Tower: 7 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 1 009 tons, 29,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 206 tons, 35,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 413 tons, 12,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 106 tons, 3,1 %
- Hull below water: 15 tons
- On freeboard deck: 58 tons
- Above deck: 33 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3 410 lbs / 1 547 Kg = 31,8 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 13,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,444 / 0,453
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,00 %, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m, 19,36 ft / 5,90 m
- Forward deck: 35,50 %, 19,36 ft / 5,90 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Aft deck: 35,50 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 12,80 ft / 3,90 m
- Quarter deck: 14,00 %, 12,80 ft / 3,90 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Average freeboard: 16,08 ft / 4,90 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 199,2 %
Waterplane Area: 14 966 Square feet or 1 390 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 57 lbs/sq ft or 276 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,73
- Longitudinal: 0,95
- Overall: 0,75
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
12t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for Night Fighting
6t for 30x195kg DC
10t reserved for new materials, armaments
AW
climatisation
BW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
The ABG4100 is only 1/4 larger than the ABG3000, but has 50% more firepower, and armor.
I would think it would be worth having fewer hulls with that better capacity.
Red Sea & Aden defender
Monitor - Red Sea Gunboat, Byzantine Empire AGB8000 laid down 1935
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 596 t standard; 9 039 t normal; 9 393 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(491,99 ft / 488,85 ft) x 68,24 ft x (18,06 / 18,61 ft)
(149,96 m / 149,00 m) x 20,80 m x (5,51 / 5,67 m)
Armament:
2 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1925 Model
1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward
2 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
16 - 5,24" / 133 mm 45,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
4 raised mounts
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 200 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 313 lbs / 1 503 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 322,64 ft / 98,34 m 9,91 ft / 3,02 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 166,17 ft / 50,65 m 9,91 ft / 3,02 m
Upper: 3,54" / 90 mm 322,64 ft / 98,34 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
2nd: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 3,15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 46 200 shp / 34 465 Kw = 27,02 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 797 tons
Complement:
463 - 602
Cost:
£3,610 million / $14,442 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 782 tons, 8,7 %
- Guns: 782 tons, 8,7 %
Armour: 2 213 tons, 24,5 %
- Belts: 1 116 tons, 12,3 %
- Armament: 302 tons, 3,3 %
- Armour Deck: 721 tons, 8,0 %
- Conning Towers: 74 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 1 313 tons, 14,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 439 tons, 38,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 039 tons, 11,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 253 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 88 tons
- Above deck: 125 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15 101 lbs / 6 850 Kg = 30,2 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 2,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 3,6 ft / 1,1 m
Roll period: 15,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,57
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,530
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,16 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 25,59 ft / 7,80 m, 23,13 ft / 7,05 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 23,13 ft / 7,05 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m
- Average freeboard: 19,51 ft / 5,95 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180,0 %
Waterplane Area: 22 744 Square feet or 2 113 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 578 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,93
- Longitudinal: 1,98
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
80t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
15t night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
20t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
4 guns, 3 on broadside, are not going to have the ROF for splash FC. So the ship would be very dependent on aerial spotting. There is no margin of speed there either.
Parthia thinks the Byzantines should build lots and lots of these !
Quote...So the ship would be very dependent on aerial spotting...
This is monitor for Red Sea & Aden Gulf, not an armored cruiser.
I have also SS a la Tone/Chikuma.
This is very interesting to have independent aerial spotting for Red Sea & Aden Gulf.
=> I have also SS a la Tone/Chikuma.
This is very interesting to have independent aerial spotting for Red Sea & Aden Gulf.
With 7000nm range, for Red Sea & Aden Gulf use only, => 12300t
SS with 14000nm range:
Colonial Cruiser, Byzantine Empire Tone laid down 1935
Displacement:
12 400 t light; 13 178 t standard; 14 479 t normal; 15 520 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(574,13 ft / 570,87 ft) x 77,10 ft x (22,36 / 23,58 ft)
(174,99 m / 174,00 m) x 23,50 m x (6,81 / 7,19 m)
Armament:
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
12 - 5,24" / 133 mm 45,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 200 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 993 lbs / 2 265 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 376,77 ft / 114,84 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 194,06 ft / 59,15 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Upper: 3,54" / 90 mm 376,77 ft / 114,84 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
2nd: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 3,15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 87 440 shp / 65 230 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 341 tons
Complement:
659 - 857
Cost:
£6,120 million / $24,478 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 288 tons, 8,9 %
- Guns: 1 288 tons, 8,9 %
Armour: 3 022 tons, 20,9 %
- Belts: 1 350 tons, 9,3 %
- Armament: 628 tons, 4,3 %
- Armour Deck: 943 tons, 6,5 %
- Conning Towers: 101 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 484 tons, 17,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 228 tons, 36,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 079 tons, 14,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 378 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 60 tons
- On freeboard deck: 193 tons
- Above deck: 125 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 616 lbs / 8 898 Kg = 39,2 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 2,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,2 m
Roll period: 16,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,67
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,515 / 0,523
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 26,57 ft / 8,10 m, 23,29 ft / 7,10 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 23,29 ft / 7,10 m, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m
- Average freeboard: 21,14 ft / 6,44 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 179,7 %
Waterplane Area: 29 731 Square feet or 2 762 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 137 lbs/sq ft or 670 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,93
- Longitudinal: 1,82
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
80t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
15t night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
105t for cata + 4 seaplanes
20t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
60t for additionnal pumps
Update Byzantine Tone class with 1933-AC10 armour
Real cost with Uparty 254/45 mlle1925 turrets: 13BP & 13$
Armored Cruiser, Byzantine Empire Tone laid down 1935
Displacement:
15 100 t light; 15 958 t standard; 17 433 t normal; 18 612 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(634,64 ft / 631,23 ft) x 77,92 ft x (23,63 / 24,86 ft)
(193,44 m / 192,40 m) x 23,75 m x (7,20 / 7,58 m)
Armament:
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
12 - 5,24" / 133 mm 45,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 200 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 009 lbs / 2 272 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 410,30 ft / 125,06 m 10,60 ft / 3,23 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 220,90 ft / 67,33 m 10,60 ft / 3,23 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 410,30 ft / 125,06 m 21,29 ft / 6,49 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 61,52 ft / 18,75 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 11,0" / 280 mm
2nd: 9,06" / 230 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 130 shp / 69 475 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 654 tons
Complement:
758 - 986
Cost:
£6,721 million / $26,884 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 292 tons, 7,4 %
- Guns: 1 292 tons, 7,4 %
Armour: 5 006 tons, 28,7 %
- Belts: 1 537 tons, 8,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 509 tons, 2,9 %
- Armament: 1 377 tons, 7,9 %
- Armour Deck: 1 424 tons, 8,2 %
- Conning Towers: 160 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 2 646 tons, 15,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 663 tons, 32,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 333 tons, 13,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 493 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 293 tons
- Above deck: 125 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25 632 lbs / 11 627 Kg = 51,3 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,2 m
Roll period: 16,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,61
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,533
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,10 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,72 ft / 8,45 m, 23,79 ft / 7,25 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 23,79 ft / 7,25 m, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m
- Average freeboard: 20,90 ft / 6,37 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172,8 %
Waterplane Area: 33 534 Square feet or 3 115 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 685 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,42
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
80t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
15t night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
205t for cata + 8 armed seaplanes
20t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps
Interesting 2T2 forward, but 'cheek' mounts, so 6 guns dead ahead or on either beam, but 2 aft ?
I believe that is roughly how my Maelstrom cruisers are arranged.
The carrier rules have a limit of 6 to be considered not a carrier
As I've mentioned before, protective decks can be problematic.
Presuming your belt goes to -2m, then it rises 1.23m above WL.
I presume you deck heights are the standard 2.44,
which means 5.45, 3.01, 0.57m
If the crown of the protective deck is only 0.57 above WL,
then the belt is only 0.66 over the crown.
Which at longer ranges will let some shells arch over the belt and strike the slope of the PD directly.
The gun firing dictates at what slope the shell descends,
but as I recall it seems likely to occur like 18-24km and only effects a small % of the deck area, but I thought I'd mention it again.
I did math on this long long ago, and wound up with...as I recall... 1.5-2m+ over the crown as a good height. Which is part of why Parthian ships went to armored decks as Fire Control improved.
Famously one of the flaws of the USS South Dakota Class was it is apparently possible to trace a shell path that would pass over the thickened exterior shell, pass in front of the armor belt, and strike in the TDS directly, which could be bad.
one of the weird bits of design guidance is that a rise of >1.5m in the bow may not allow dead-ahead short range fire.
That's guidance, not rule, and so would depend on who is overseeing the battle.
The idea is if the muzzle heights appear to be in pictures about 1.5m-2m high, a short range
Quote...As I've mentioned before, protective decks can be problematic...
Oups... this is a bullet.
SS corrected to "armored deck".
I think the last SS without bullet...
Real cost with Uparty 254/45 mlle1925 turrets: 12.9BP & $
Kadelah - Kilak, Byzantine Empire AC11 ala Tone laid down 1935
Displacement:
15 100 t light; 15 958 t standard; 17 433 t normal; 18 612 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(634,64 ft / 631,23 ft) x 77,92 ft x (23,63 / 24,86 ft)
(193,44 m / 192,40 m) x 23,75 m x (7,20 / 7,58 m)
Armament:
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
12 - 5,24" / 133 mm 45,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 200 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
6 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 009 lbs / 2 272 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 410,30 ft / 125,06 m 10,60 ft / 3,23 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 220,90 ft / 67,33 m 10,60 ft / 3,23 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 410,30 ft / 125,06 m 21,29 ft / 6,49 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 61,52 ft / 18,75 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 11,0" / 280 mm
2nd: 9,06" / 230 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 130 shp / 69 475 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 654 tons
Complement:
758 - 986
Cost:
£6,721 million / $26,884 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 292 tons, 7,4 %
- Guns: 1 292 tons, 7,4 %
Armour: 5 006 tons, 28,7 %
- Belts: 1 537 tons, 8,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 509 tons, 2,9 %
- Armament: 1 377 tons, 7,9 %
- Armour Deck: 1 424 tons, 8,2 %
- Conning Towers: 160 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 2 646 tons, 15,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 661 tons, 32,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 333 tons, 13,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 495 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 245 tons
- Above deck: 175 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
25 610 lbs / 11 617 Kg = 51,2 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,1 m
Roll period: 16,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,61
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,533
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,10 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,72 ft / 8,45 m, 23,79 ft / 7,25 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 23,79 ft / 7,25 m, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 20,18 ft / 6,15 m, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m
- Average freeboard: 20,90 ft / 6,37 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172,8 %
Waterplane Area: 33 534 Square feet or 3 115 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 685 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,42
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
129t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
15t night fighting
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
160t for cata + 6 armed seaplanes
17t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps
QuoteThe ABG4100 is only 1/4 larger than the ABG3000, but has 50% more firepower, and armor.
I would think it would be worth having fewer hulls with that better capacity.
Small cruisers 3000t,(CAGB) could n't be classed with 6000t & 8000t cruisers .
They are renamed "Frigate" => F
F18 use the 6"/45 mlle 1925 from Uparty class BB
Real cost is: 3.875BP & 3.875$
F18, Byzantine Empire F18 laid down 1935
Displacement:
4 100 t light; 4 338 t standard; 4 826 t normal; 5 216 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(491,62 ft / 485,56 ft) x 52,49 ft x (13,69 / 14,51 ft)
(149,85 m / 148,00 m) x 16,00 m x (4,17 / 4,42 m)
Armament:
4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 897 lbs / 407 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,95" / 75 mm 336,48 ft / 102,56 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Ends: 0,98" / 25 mm 149,05 ft / 45,43 m 8,69 ft / 2,65 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,76" / 70 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 45 330 shp / 33 816 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 879 tons
Complement:
289 - 376
Cost:
£2,034 million / $8,136 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 230 tons, 4,8 %
- Guns: 230 tons, 4,8 %
Armour: 896 tons, 18,6 %
- Belts: 399 tons, 8,3 %
- Armament: 59 tons, 1,2 %
- Armour Deck: 413 tons, 8,6 %
- Conning Towers: 24 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 1 288 tons, 26,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 497 tons, 31,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 726 tons, 15,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 3,9 %
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 102 tons
- Above deck: 68 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 665 lbs / 2 116 Kg = 43,5 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,484 / 0,494
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,85 %, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m
- Forward deck: 34,65 %, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m
- Aft deck: 34,65 %, 15,75 ft / 4,80 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 14,85 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m
- Average freeboard: 16,89 ft / 5,15 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180,1 %
Waterplane Area: 16 740 Square feet or 1 555 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 315 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,73
- Longitudinal: 1,03
- Overall: 0,75
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
23t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD-95t
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
10t for night fighting
15t for Enhanced Hydrophone
6t for 30 x 195kg DC
25t for cata + seaplane
15t reserved for new materials, armaments.
AW
climatisation
BW
20t for additionnal pumps
10000t Troop Transport, Byzantine Empire - 2000 marines Troop Transport laid down 1935
Displacement:
10 000 t light; 10 318 t standard; 11 311 t normal; 12 106 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(492,28 ft / 488,85 ft) x 75,46 ft x (17,14 / 18,15 ft)
(150,05 m / 149,00 m) x 23,00 m x (5,23 / 5,53 m)
Armament:
8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
4 x 4-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 297 lbs / 135 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 21 000 shp / 15 666 Kw = 21,01 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 788 tons
Complement:
547 - 712
Cost:
£2,282 million / $9,127 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 49 tons, 0,4 %
- Guns: 49 tons, 0,4 %
Armour: 8 tons, 0,1 %
- Armament: 8 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 597 tons, 5,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 006 tons, 26,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 311 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 340 tons, 56,1 %
- Hull below water: 1 840 tons
- Hull above water: 2 400 tons
- On freeboard deck: 2 000 tons
- Above deck: 100 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
22 301 lbs / 10 115 Kg = 206,5 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36
Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 13,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,55
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,633
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,48 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 24,44 ft / 7,45 m, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
- Aft deck: 30,00 %, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m, 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
- Average freeboard: 16,41 ft / 5,00 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 60,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,0 %
Waterplane Area: 27 640 Square feet or 2 568 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 147 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 410 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,99
- Longitudinal: 1,08
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 6340t
AD
Short Marconi
OD
1600t for 800 soldiers
400t for 4x100t light landing crafts
AW
2400t for 1200 soldiers
BW
1840t for food, materials, armored cars, artillery, horses, camels...
TGB for colonial works with LR Marconi:
Patrols, escort, ASM work...
TGB500D, Byzantine Empire TGB500D laid down 1935
Displacement:
500 t light; 530 t standard; 567 t normal; 596 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(245,82 ft / 242,78 ft) x 26,12 ft x (6,87 / 7,12 ft)
(74,93 m / 74,00 m) x 7,96 m x (2,10 / 2,17 m)
Armament:
2 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 240 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 74 lbs / 34 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 7 640 shp / 5 700 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 4 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 66 tons
Complement:
57 - 75
Cost:
£0,263 million / $1,050 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 14 tons, 2,6 %
- Guns: 14 tons, 2,6 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0,5 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 217 tons, 38,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 212 tons, 37,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 66 tons, 11,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 54 tons, 9,5 %
- On freeboard deck: 32 tons
- Above deck: 22 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
421 lbs / 191 Kg = 13,0 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 12,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,21
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,29
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,455 / 0,462
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,30 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,58 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22,00 %, 17,22 ft / 5,25 m, 13,29 ft / 4,05 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 13,29 ft / 4,05 m, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m
- Aft deck: 28,00 %, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m, 10,01 ft / 3,05 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 10,01 ft / 3,05 m, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m
- Average freeboard: 11,89 ft / 3,62 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 139,6 %
Waterplane Area: 4 061 Square feet or 377 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 137 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,64
- Longitudinal: 3,00
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
AD
25t for LR Marconi
2t for 1930 fire control
OD
9 tons for 3TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 60x90kg DC
2t for paravanes
AW
climatisation
Byzance strengthens its detection and surveillance potential at long distances 150-200nm for the colonies.
P700 will be relay ships (LR radio) for the TGB (SR radio) already assigned to patrols.
700t Patrol Boat to work in colonies.
The last one, from 1917, was 900t.
Mercantile cost: 0.175BP & $
P700, Byzantine Empire Patrol Boat laid down 1935
Displacement:
620 t light; 649 t standard; 700 t normal; 742 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(262,05 ft / 260,17 ft) x 31,17 ft x (6,64 / 6,92 ft)
(79,87 m / 79,30 m) x 9,50 m x (2,03 / 2,11 m)
Armament:
1 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal gun - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 280 per gun
Dual purpose gun in deck mount, 1935 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 41 lbs / 19 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 8 634 shp / 6 441 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 5 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 93 tons
Complement:
67 - 88
Cost:
£0,296 million / $1,184 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 8 tons, 1,2 %
- Guns: 8 tons, 1,2 %
Armour: 2 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 245 tons, 35,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 259 tons, 37,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 80 tons, 11,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 105 tons, 15,0 %
- Hull above water: 58 tons
- On freeboard deck: 21 tons
- Above deck: 26 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
597 lbs / 271 Kg = 18,4 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 12,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,07
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,455 / 0,462
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,35 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16,13 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22,00 %, 17,88 ft / 5,45 m, 13,94 ft / 4,25 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 13,94 ft / 4,25 m, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m
- Aft deck: 28,00 %, 10,99 ft / 3,35 m, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 10,33 ft / 3,15 m, 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
- Average freeboard: 12,24 ft / 3,73 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 127,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156,4 %
Waterplane Area: 5 194 Square feet or 483 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 150 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,67
- Longitudinal: 2,09
- Overall: 0,75
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for LR Marconi
1t for 1930 fire control
OD
15t for enhanced hydrophone
3.8t for 38x90kg DC
2t for paravanes
AW
58t Miscellaneous Cargo
climatisation
I feel like I'd want more or heavier depth charges, but otherwise I think that would be a very handy vessel.
QuoteI feel like I'd want more or heavier depth charges, but otherwise I think that would be a very handy vessel.
Me too, but P700 is a mercantile ship, 2% max (14t) for armament & Armour.
Actualy, 1.97% (13,8t).
Update CV3-1932-21050t to CV4-1935-24200t
Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-60 aircrafts laid down 1935
Displacement:
24 200 t light; 25 099 t standard; 27 429 t normal; 29 293 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(730,76 ft / 728,35 ft) x 98,43 ft x (26,78 / 28,15 ft)
(222,74 m / 222,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,16 / 8,58 m)
Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 473,43 ft / 144,30 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 254,89 ft / 77,69 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,97" / 50 mm 473,43 ft / 144,30 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 473,43 ft / 144,30 m 23,56 ft / 7,18 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 78,74 ft / 24,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 120 000 shp / 89 520 Kw = 30,19 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 194 tons
Complement:
1 065 - 1 385
Cost:
£6,942 million / $27,766 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,6 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,6 %
Armour: 5 149 tons, 18,8 %
- Belts: 1 199 tons, 4,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 812 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 120 tons, 11,4 %
Machinery: 3 409 tons, 12,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 808 tons, 32,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 229 tons, 11,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 680 tons, 24,4 %
- Hull below water: 3 235 tons
- Hull above water: 3 170 tons
- On freeboard deck: 210 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
69 243 lbs / 31 408 Kg = 641,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,40
Metacentric height 8,8 ft / 2,7 m
Roll period: 13,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 95 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,99
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 33,05 ft / 10,08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 336,0 %
Waterplane Area: 47 764 Square feet or 4 437 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 644 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,92
- Longitudinal: 2,02
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 6670t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
2850t for 30 aircrafts-1934
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
120t reserved for materials
HBW
2850t for 30 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
140t reserved for material...
Update CV4 to 25000t was 24200t
Lenght 224.74m was 222.74m for 225m shipyards.
66 aircrafts was 60.
Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-66 aircrafts laid down 1935
Mavildeniz LD 1935H1
Beyazdeniz LD 1935H2
Displacement:
25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(737,32 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
(224,74 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)
Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 477,69 ft / 145,60 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 257,19 ft / 78,39 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,18" / 30 mm 477,69 ft / 145,60 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 477,69 ft / 145,60 m 24,08 ft / 7,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 78,74 ft / 24,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 122 000 shp / 91 012 Kw = 30,21 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons
Complement:
1 089 - 1 417
Cost:
£7,125 million / $28,499 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 5 108 tons, 18,1 %
- Belts: 1 081 tons, 3,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 838 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 149 tons, 11,1 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 3 466 tons, 12,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 026 tons, 31,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 7 245 tons, 25,6 %
- Hull below water: 3 520 tons
- Hull above water: 3 450 tons
- On freeboard deck: 210 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
69 700 lbs / 31 616 Kg = 645,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,39
Metacentric height 8,7 ft / 2,7 m
Roll period: 14,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 17,50 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 33,05 ft / 10,08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 651 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,93
- Longitudinal: 2,01
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 7245t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
120t reserved for materials
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
140t reserved for material...
Looks similar to my 'Burning Bow'. I think you saved some tonnage.
Technically, under the Aviation ship rules you are not allowed to adjust the freeboard lengths.
"Use the default "Length % of Lwl" setting."
But with 17.5 , 32.5, 32.5 and 17.5 you are not actually changing the citadel(hanger) / bow & stern %, just making them even breaks.
So I do not think that is a problem.
The ship can not have a lowered quarter deck. You can have a lowered forecastle.
"This represents the Flight Deck and applies from "Quarter deck Freeboard-aft" to "Fore deck Freeboard-forward".
This may be extended to cover the forecastle OR the forecastle may be left 5m (15ft) lower and serve as a "flying off deck", increasing take off rate."
The TDS is 24m wide, the hull 30m, which only gives a 3m interior space.
I do not know what the 'correct' number would be, my impression is more is better.
Quote"Use the default "Length % of Lwl" setting."
I did
QuoteThe TDS is 24m wide, the hull 30m, which only gives a 3m interior space.
I do not know what the 'correct' number would be, my impression is more is better.
24m is a bullet, I wrote 22m.
QuoteThe ship can not have a lowered quarter deck. You can have a lowered forecastle.
"This represents the Flight Deck and applies from "Quarter deck Freeboard-aft" to "Fore deck Freeboard-forward".
This may be extended to cover the forecastle OR the forecastle may be left 5m (15ft) lower and serve as a "flying off deck", increasing take off rate."
The Byzantine CVs are a mix of the British CVs (Ark Royal, Victorious, Implacable) with a clear profile at the ends like the Japanese CVs (Akagi, Junyo...) with beams and posts to support the flight deck.
I love Akagi look.
ReSS CV4 with minor adjustments
Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-66 aircrafts laid down 1935
Displacement:
25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(737,32 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
(224,74 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)
Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 227,79 ft / 69,43 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,18" / 30 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 24,08 ft / 7,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118 600 shp / 88 476 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons
Complement:
1 089 - 1 417
Cost:
£7,056 million / $28,223 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 5 258 tons, 18,6 %
- Belts: 1 115 tons, 3,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 3,1 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 212 tons, 11,4 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 3 369 tons, 11,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 974 tons, 31,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 7 245 tons, 25,6 %
- Hull below water: 3 520 tons
- Hull above water: 3 450 tons
- On freeboard deck: 210 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
70 354 lbs / 31 912 Kg = 651,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,39
Metacentric height 8,6 ft / 2,6 m
Roll period: 14,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 33,79 ft / 10,30 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 144 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 643 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,92
- Longitudinal: 2,12
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 7245t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
120t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
120t reserved for materials
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
140t reserved for material...
Quote from: Jefgte on November 19, 2024, 04:11:59 PMQuote"Use the default "Length % of Lwl" setting."
I did
The Byzantine CVs are a mix of the British CVs (Ark Royal, Victorious, Implacable) with a clear profile at the ends like the Japanese CVs (Akagi, Junyo...) with beams and posts to support the flight deck.
I love Akagi look.
When you start a fresh SS,
-switch to the 'freeboard' tab
-hit "flush deck " or "mid break" on upper right.
The program will provide the defaults.
QuoteFreeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Aft deck: 35.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
The freeboard and the Length % of Lwl specifications were meant to ensure we are all modeling under the same rules. All of our hanger sizes w
The actual "look" of the carrier can be somewhat different.
For example, the Flight Deck Cruiser rules are either Quarterdeck + Aft OR Forecastle +Fore.
Aft + Fore is not an option.
That makes it sound like all your guns have to be foredeck or aft deck.
However you can specify some of the guns are fore and other aft.
Why?
Because the gun tab does not allow you to place guns on the forecastle or stern if you did Aft+Fore.
So the SS has to have that space available without the +hanger freeboard, or else SS would put all that weight high up
in the ship.
There's a great number of compromises when using a nice simple bit of free software for fairly complex structures.
Still 25000t
Fine adjustments on "Freeboard" & "reserved for materiel"
Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-66 aircrafts laid down 1935
Displacement:
25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(738,04 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
(224,96 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)
Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 227,79 ft / 69,43 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,18" / 30 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 24,08 ft / 7,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118 600 shp / 88 476 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons
Complement:
1 089 - 1 417
Cost:
£7,056 million / $28,223 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 5 258 tons, 18,6 %
- Belts: 1 115 tons, 3,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 3,1 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 212 tons, 11,4 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 3 369 tons, 11,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 019 tons, 31,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 7 200 tons, 25,5 %
- Hull below water: 3 500 tons
- Hull above water: 3 465 tons
- On freeboard deck: 170 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
70 240 lbs / 31 860 Kg = 650,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
Metacentric height 8,6 ft / 2,6 m
Roll period: 14,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 29,82 ft / 9,09 m, 24,41 ft / 7,44 m
- Forward deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m
- Average freeboard: 34,26 ft / 10,44 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 131 lbs/sq ft or 640 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,91
- Longitudinal: 2,19
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 7245t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
100t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
100t for Climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spare parts
100t reserved for materials
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
50t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
120t reserved for material...
QuoteFreeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 29,82 ft / 9,09 m, 24,41 ft / 7,44 m
- Forward deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m, 18,96 ft / 5,78 m
- Average freeboard: 34,26 ft / 10,44 m
The forecastle can be 16% rather than 20% as you have the option of extending the flight deck over the forecastle.
"
This may be extended to cover the forecastle OR the forecastle may be left 5m (15ft) lower and serve as a "flying off deck", increasing take off rate.", and you are moving that 4% to the citadel , leaving the 34.5 / 34.5 break instead of the 30/35% break.
The 12m flight deck is standard for a double hanger design.
Since the forecastle is 7.44m-9.09m, not (12-5) = 7m, it is not a flying off deck.
The quarterdeck must be the same as the flight deck, 12m in this case.
The 5.78m high quarter deck is not allowable.
QuoteSince the forecastle is 7.44m-9.09m, not (12-5) = 7m, it is not a flying off deck.
=> it is not a flying off deck.
QuoteThe quarterdeck must be the same as the flight deck, 12m in this case.
=> Misc weight 6980t was 7200t
Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier - 66 aircrafts laid down 1935Displacement:
25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(738,04 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
(224,96 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m x (8,34 / 8,76 m)
Armament:
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 227,79 ft / 69,43 m 11,91 ft / 3,63 m
Upper: 1,18" / 30 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 507,09 ft / 154,56 m 24,08 ft / 7,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118 600 shp / 88 476 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons
Complement:
1 089 - 1 417
Cost:
£7,056 million / $28,223 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
- Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
Armour: 5 189 tons, 18,3 %
- Belts: 1 115 tons, 3,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 3,1 %
- Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
- Armour Deck: 3 144 tons, 11,1 %
- Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 3 369 tons, 11,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 307 tons, 32,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 980 tons, 24,7 %
- Hull below water: 3 480 tons
- Hull above water: 3 365 tons
- On freeboard deck: 70 tons
- Above deck: 65 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
69 682 lbs / 31 607 Kg = 645,2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
Metacentric height 8,2 ft / 2,5 m
Roll period: 14,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 29,82 ft / 9,09 m, 24,41 ft / 7,44 m
- Forward deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Average freeboard: 37,32 ft / 11,38 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 147 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 623 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,89
- Longitudinal: 2,76
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 6980t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
40t for aircrafts spare parts
40t reserved for materials...
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced ventilation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
40t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
40t reserved for material...
thank you for working through that with me.
Quotethank you for working through that with me.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
25000t is easy to plan in $ & BP.
Testing BB11 => BB10 in 225m shipyards
BB11, Byzantine Empire BB11 laid down 1935
Displacement:
45 500 t light; 48 476 t standard; 51 387 t normal; 53 716 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(738,21 ft / 735,56 ft) x 121,39 ft x (32,18 / 33,40 ft)
(225,00 m / 224,20 m) x 37,00 m x (9,81 / 10,18 m)
Armament:
9 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 3 320,01lbs / 1 505,93kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model
3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 50,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1935 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
28 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
14 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 30 866 lbs / 14 001 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 485,47 ft / 147,97 m 13,22 ft / 4,03 m
Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 250,07 ft / 76,22 m 13,22 ft / 4,03 m
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 485,47 ft / 147,97 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 485,47 ft / 147,97 m 30,64 ft / 9,34 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 98,43 ft / 30,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 15,0" / 380 mm 6,69" / 170 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 1,57" / 40 mm 1,57" / 40 mm
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 6,30" / 160 mm
Forecastle: 3,94" / 100 mm Quarter deck: 4,72" / 120 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 13,78" / 350 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 122 624 shp / 91 477 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5 240 tons
Complement:
1 706 - 2 218
Cost:
£21,614 million / $86,456 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 452 tons, 8,7 %
- Guns: 4 452 tons, 8,7 %
Armour: 17 969 tons, 35,0 %
- Belts: 5 050 tons, 9,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 083 tons, 2,1 %
- Armament: 3 823 tons, 7,4 %
- Armour Deck: 7 427 tons, 14,5 %
- Conning Towers: 586 tons, 1,1 %
Machinery: 3 484 tons, 6,8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 18 326 tons, 35,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 887 tons, 11,5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 1 269 tons, 2,5 %
- Hull below water: 220 tons
- Hull above water: 245 tons
- On freeboard deck: 284 tons
- Above deck: 520 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
74 937 lbs / 33 991 Kg = 25,7 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 13,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 8,0 ft / 2,4 m
Roll period: 18,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,72
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,630
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,06 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 30,18 ft / 9,20 m, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Average freeboard: 21,32 ft / 6,50 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151,9 %
Waterplane Area: 66 905 Square feet or 6 216 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 245 lbs/sq ft or 1 197 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,45
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
445t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
50t for 2 scoutplanes + cata
40t for night fighting
100t for admiral ship
94t reserved
AW
220t for climatisation
25t for enhanced hydrophone
BW
220t for extra pumps installation