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Title: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 19, 2020, 09:48:01 PM
HY2 1914 Expansion.

July 1, 1914.

Orders received from :
Parthia
Japan
Rome (busy)
Byzantine
Wilno.
I presume the Aztec are preoccupied much like Rome.

We know Darman/Guinness get busy. Will have to poke them.

Players :
Parthia :

Amphibious : Peaceful occupation of Adelaide and Polynesia.   3 Land, 3 Dep. 2 Amphib.
Overland :
Zanzibar –> 1 SW.
Zambesi –> 1 N, 1 SW
Ikapa –> 1 NE
Guanabara Bay –> 1 NE
White Bay –>  1 NW

Inca :
Expands North (from new IC) 1
Expands along Amazon to Roman Border.
Expands South & Southeastern to Atlantic and Iberia/Parthia.

Wilno
Expands West from Atlantic Coast, taking Eastern Kentucky, Southern Ohio, and Lookout Mountain, Tennessee.

Expands North along the Parana River.

Expands North in Niger delta and from the Bight of Benin.

Japan
Amphibious : Takes Alaskan Coastline, connecting to NA colonies.

Byzantine
Overland :
Marches South along Coast towards Moree, NSW, Aus.
Marches to take Bedouri Queensland, Aus.
Marches South from Bahia.


NPCs
5 Tribes : Expand into Michagen, start '5 Tribes' Burgers and Fries.

Maya : Expand to Atlantic coast at Guyana. 2 LP, 2 DP

Berber : None

Ethiopia : Expand interior. Since they almost had a player I'm following what I understood.
Meeting Engagement with Parthians south of Lake Nyasa (Malawi), retreat.

Deccan Sultanates :
Amphibious :
Tries to establish in New Guinea. 4 x light cruiser, 2 LP, 2 DP.
Takes Wake island if unoccupied: 1x light cruiser, 1 LP, 1 DP.

Overland : Australia – Expands to South Coast to cut off Rajasthan. 1LP, 1DP

Rajasthan :
Australia – Expands East along coast, 2 LP, 2 DP.

Thailand : None
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 19, 2020, 10:51:49 PM
First Error : I misinterpreted Fox's instructions regarding Australia.  Going to go fix.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 19, 2020, 10:57:10 PM
Japan
Amphibious : Takes Alaskan Coastline, connecting to NA colonies.
Conquers SE Australia

(https://i.postimg.cc/nhb5JK23/1914-HY2-Claims-Map.png) (https://postimg.cc/XpLxKCT5)

<a href='https://postimg.cc/XpLxKCT5' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/nhb5JK23/1914-HY2-Claims-Map.png' border='0' alt='1914-HY2-Claims-Map'/></a> (http://<a%20href='https://postimg.cc/XpLxKCT5'%20target='_blank'><img%20src='https://i.postimg.cc/nhb5JK23/1914-HY2-Claims-Map.png'%20border='0'%20alt='1914-HY2-Claims-Map'/></a>)
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: snip on October 19, 2020, 11:00:45 PM
The moves by Japan in Australia are very interesting. Otherwise nothing really surprising here. Peace elsewhere while the Caribbean the Gulf are set alight.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 19, 2020, 11:10:51 PM
As folks complete IC, they can move beyond the immediate vicinity of the Ports.

For the NPCs, I wait 3-4 HYs after they conquer the port symbol before they start expanding inland.
Wasn't sure if the Maya would try to flank Vilnus, or after the San Diego fiasco they would choose to be less confrontational, decided to have them box in the Parthians.

Rajasthan and Decca are skirmishing in Australia.

Decca is flabbergasted to get both the New Guinea port and Wake Island.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Desertfox on October 19, 2020, 11:52:57 PM
I do believe Wake Island is Aztec. I would have gone after that lone island (not Wake) but I thought certain other islands where actually available.
Title: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: The Rock Doctor on October 20, 2020, 05:43:18 AM
About what I expected in the Americas.

Ethiopia was certainly busy.  I'll have to pick up my pace if I want shoreline on Lake Chad.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: TacCovert4 on October 20, 2020, 07:31:20 AM
Aztecs don't have any expansion plans at the moment as we are valiantly defending our sovereign territory from the duplicitous and arrogant Romans.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Jefgte on October 20, 2020, 07:33:50 AM
An "error" slipped into the postponement on the map for conquests of The Japan / Byzantine Empire.
Byzance claims:
Quote1 - Australia => Moree (No Brisbane)
2 - Australia => Bedourie (Queensland)
3 - South America => Porto Seguro

Map Overland:
Marche South along Coast towards Moree, NSW, Aus.
Marches to take Bedouri Queensland, Aus.=> Japan map claim
South Steps from Bahia.

After learning about Japanese expansion plans, The Byzantine Empire is "annoyed" by the Japanese march to northern Australia.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Desertfox on October 20, 2020, 08:24:48 AM
Quote from: Jefgte on October 20, 2020, 07:33:50 AM
After learning about Japanese expansion plans, The Byzantine Empire is "annoyed" by the Japanese march to northern Australia.
Not too worry, the feeling is mutual...
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Jefgte on October 20, 2020, 08:40:17 AM
Quote...the feeling is mutual.

Byzantine didn't want south Australia.
Title: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: The Rock Doctor on October 20, 2020, 09:43:30 AM
I didn't want any Australia and I was not disappointed.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 20, 2020, 11:20:25 AM
Jefgte,
I am confused.
I am on "break" at work, and so can not see the map.
However by time I get off work, it will be after midnight in France.

It is possible the old problem with colors happened when I switched national colors, and Japan wound up shown as holding Bedourie. If so, that is an error.

I use Google to find the towns you name.
Bedourie is in Queensland, South of the Gulf of Carpentina. I mapped Byzantine as having claimed that.
Moree is in New South Wales, so I mapped Byzantine as marching South for that.

Did I err?

Quote from: Jefgte on October 20, 2020, 07:33:50 AM
An "error" slipped into the postponement on the map for conquests of The Japan / Byzantine Empire.
Byzance claims:
Quote1 - Australia => Moree (No Brisbane)
2 - Australia => Bedourie (Queensland)
3 - South America => Porto Seguro

Map Overland:
Marche South along Coast towards Moree, NSW, Aus.
Marches to take Bedouri Queensland, Aus.=> Japan map claim
South Steps from Bahia.

After learning about Japanese expansion plans, The Byzantine Empire is "annoyed" by the Japanese march to northern Australia.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Jefgte on October 20, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
QuoteI am confused.

No problemo  ;)

Quote1 - Australia => Moree (No Brisbane)
2 - Australia => Bedourie (Queensland)
3 - South America => Porto Seguro

Bedourie is correct .

=> I can change for Brisbane & give Moree to the Japs.

Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 20, 2020, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Jefgte on October 20, 2020, 04:34:27 PM

=> I can change for Brisbane & give Moree to the Japs.

You should not have to fix my mistake.

So...the question is "Where did Jefgte intend to move ?"

You could have taken any or all of 1 , 2, 3, or 4.

Which one, or ones do you wish to send troops to?

(https://i.postimg.cc/XqJch6Ly/HY2-1914-Byzantine.png) (https://postimages.org/)

Also,
The map I was working from was fairly zoomed out
Looking more closely at a map of Australia, part of the problem is I put the Port Symbol is the wrong spot.

It seems I put it where St. Lawrence, Queensland is, adjacent to Broad Bay.
St. Lawrence was an early port...and at this point we'll just pretend it's a fine deep harbor.

Brisbane is better, but apparently needs dredging (IC) here to shine.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Jefgte on October 21, 2020, 09:05:41 AM
In 2, I put the harbor of Gladstone.
Gladstone or St Laurence?

You must add in 4, the symbol of the Brisbane harbor.

Conquer in 3 as announced.

=> But in fact 3 or 4 that bothers me. Foxy may need Brisbane harbor.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 21, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: Jefgte on October 21, 2020, 09:05:41 AM
In 2, I put the harbor of Gladstone.
Gladstone or St Laurence?

You must add in 4, the symbol of the Brisbane harbor.

Conquer in 3 as announced.

=> But in fact 3 or 4 that bothers me. Foxy may need Brisbane harbor.

A) You may call it whichever you choose- it's yours :)
Interpretation :  In Navalism, the bay has an area suitable for deep draft ships <=10m. Apparently the merchant harbor there invested in dredging equipment.

B) At this juncture I am not adding "Port Symbols"   When that province is developed with IC, it is assumed to have 'port facilities'.
Interpretation : In Navalism, Brisbane harbor has sand bars or rock outcrops that require improvement before use. The bay exists, the entrance is dangerous.

C) I will change the map to show you conquering #3. 

Sorry I got that all mixed up.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Jefgte on October 21, 2020, 03:41:43 PM
I give Brisbane (4) and Cape York Peninsula (Cairn) above "1" to Foxy.

Byzantium will take "1 - 2 - 3" as well as the regions which adjoin them in light brown

For 1914H2 => 3 - Moree
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Desertfox on October 21, 2020, 07:29:08 PM
As part of the deal with Byzantium, Japan will not be taking the two provinces in Queensland (will not contest 3) and will only take the ones in New South Wales. So the ones in light blue:
Title: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: The Rock Doctor on October 21, 2020, 08:25:47 PM
The Byzantine/Japanese agreement is a beacon of peace and order that we need in the face of Caicos Chaos.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 21, 2020, 10:57:16 PM
Ok,

If I understand things correctly
This map should highlight Byzantine / Japanese Moves for HY2, 1914 and HY1 1915 (Or later).

ROUND Dots are the HY2 1914 moves.
RECTANGLES are the HY1 1915 moves
The Dashed line is the overland supply route the Japanese will have to use to settle Cape York Peninsula

Did I finally get it?

(https://i.postimg.cc/vH53PZDx/1914-1915-Byzantine-Japan.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Desertfox on October 21, 2020, 11:06:57 PM
That would be correct, I do believe the other Byzantine port makes for a shorter route (only one province to cross instead of two). Plus the rest of Queensland being claimed by Byzantium next half.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Kaiser Kirk on October 21, 2020, 11:18:57 PM
Quote from: Desertfox on October 21, 2020, 11:06:57 PM
That would be correct, I do believe the other Byzantine port makes for a shorter route (only one province to cross instead of two). Plus the rest of Queensland being claimed by Byzantium next half.

Yes it's only 2, but you can only expand through 'owned' provinces.
If Jefgte does not choose to claim the province to the North in HY2 1914, then it will be in the process of being colonized in HY1 1915.
So you'd either have to wait until HY2 1915,
or march around the Gulf of Carpentina.

Since Jefgte has an IC at Port Darwin, he can supply Japanese expansion to Cape York.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Desertfox on October 21, 2020, 11:23:15 PM
Ah gotcha, I see what you mean. Either go the long way, or wait.
Title: Re: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Jefgte on October 22, 2020, 09:09:42 AM
Quote
Since Jefgte has an IC at Port Darwin, he can supply Japanese expansion to Cape York.

Ok, no problemo
Japanese could use Port Darwin & then move to Cap York.
2 armies w"ll going to east around Carpentarie Gulf.
Byzantine 1914-2 conquest & Japanese 1914-2 conquest to Cap York & Cairn.

;)
Title: HY2 1914 expansion results
Post by: Guinness on October 22, 2020, 02:30:47 PM
QuoteWe know Darman/Guinness get busy. Will have to poke them.

Nothing is coming from China, who considers the rest of you ignorant imperialists who must one day be taught lessons.