11,000 light tons displacement
210 or 240mm main guns
Speed 22 knots VTE
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QuoteAsama for Germans, Japan Heavy Cruiser laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
11,000 t light; 11,475 t standard; 12,424 t normal; 13,183 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(492.13 ft / 492.13 ft) x 54.13 ft x (29.53 / 30.95 ft)
(150.00 m / 150.00 m) x 16.50 m x (9.00 / 9.43 m)
Armament:
4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 425.39lbs / 192.95kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 20.97lbs / 9.51kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 400 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
4 x Quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
40 - 0.43" / 11.0 mm 35.0 cal guns - 0.04lbs / 0.02kg shells, 800 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
4 x 2 row decuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,201 lbs / 1,452 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.8" / 275 mm 374.02 ft / 114.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 2.95" / 75 mm 118.11 ft / 36.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Upper: 2.95" / 75 mm 374.02 ft / 114.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.8" / 275 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 6.89" / 175 mm
2nd: 2.95" / 75 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0.20" / 5 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.83" / 275 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 24,432 ihp / 18,226 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,708 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
587 - 764
Cost:
£1.145 million / $4.580 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 639 tons, 5.1 %
- Guns: 639 tons, 5.1 %
Armour: 3,441 tons, 27.7 %
- Belts: 2,181 tons, 17.6 %
- Armament: 451 tons, 3.6 %
- Armour Deck: 684 tons, 5.5 %
- Conning Tower: 125 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 3,780 tons, 30.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,980 tons, 24.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,425 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 1.3 %
- Hull above water: 60 tons
- On freeboard deck: 50 tons
- Above deck: 50 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
8,211 lbs / 3,724 Kg = 19.5 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.76
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.56
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.553 / 0.560
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.09 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.2 %
Waterplane Area: 18,641 Square feet or 1,732 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 493 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.78
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Just throwing some stuff together...
Roon, Germany Armored Cruiser laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
10,983 t light; 11,410 t standard; 12,553 t normal; 13,468 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(446.78 ft / 442.91 ft) x 65.62 ft x (26.25 / 27.79 ft)
(136.18 m / 135.00 m) x 20.00 m x (8.00 / 8.47 m)
Armament:
4 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.98lbs / 129.26kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 140 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 140 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 20.97lbs / 9.51kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
6 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 20.97lbs / 9.51kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft
2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 2,472 lbs / 1,121 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 3.15" / 80 mm 98.43 ft / 30.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Upper: 3.94" / 100 mm 314.96 ft / 96.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 120% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 2.36" / 60 mm 6.69" / 170 mm
2nd: 3.94" / 100 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
3rd: 3.94" / 100 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 2.36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 26,292 ihp / 19,614 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,057 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
592 - 770
Cost:
£1.144 million / $4.575 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 534 tons, 4.3%
- Guns: 534 tons, 4.3%
Armour: 2,926 tons, 23.3%
- Belts: 1,463 tons, 11.7%
- Armament: 492 tons, 3.9%
- Armour Deck: 865 tons, 6.9%
- Conning Towers: 105 tons, 0.8%
Machinery: 4,068 tons, 32.4%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,285 tons, 26.2%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,571 tons, 12.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 170 tons, 1.4%
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 150 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,543 lbs / 4,782 Kg = 37.3 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 12.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.75
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.576 / 0.584
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.05 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 40
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -3.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -8.73 ft / -2.66 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17.11%, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Forward deck: 58.55%, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Aft deck: 9.43%, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 14.91%, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 21.37 ft / 6.51 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.5%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147.5%
Waterplane Area: 20,783 Square feet or 1,931 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 516 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.51
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Upper belt is 30x3m above 66x3m, similar as on this pic of SMS Roon...
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The Dutch Proposal, reworking possible and well it is 22 knots =P (although there isnt much room for changes)
Scharnhorst, Germany Armoured Cruiser laid down 1903 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
11,000 t light; 11,491 t standard; 13,031 t normal; 14,263 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(464.00 ft / 464.00 ft) x 64.00 ft x (27.00 / 29.04 ft)
(141.43 m / 141.43 m) x 19.51 m x (8.23 / 8.85 m)
Armament:
6 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 404.25lbs / 183.37kg shells, 90 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
8 - 5.90" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.56lbs / 46.98kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
8 - 3.90" / 99.1 mm 45.0 cal guns - 29.91lbs / 13.57kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
8 - 3.90" / 99.1 mm 45.0 cal guns - 29.91lbs / 13.57kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,733 lbs / 1,693 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.09" / 180 mm 362.00 ft / 110.34 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 3.15" / 80 mm 102.00 ft / 31.09 m 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
Upper: 3.94" / 100 mm 301.00 ft / 91.74 m 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
Main Belt covers 120 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 4.92" / 125 mm - -
3rd: 3.94" / 100 mm - -
4th: 1.18" / 30 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7.09" / 180 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 26,175 ihp / 19,527 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,772 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
609 - 792
Cost:
£1.216 million / $4.864 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 684 tons, 5.3 %
- Guns: 684 tons, 5.3 %
Armour: 3,057 tons, 23.5 %
- Belts: 1,731 tons, 13.3 %
- Armament: 546 tons, 4.2 %
- Armour Deck: 696 tons, 5.3 %
- Conning Tower: 85 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 4,049 tons, 31.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,137 tons, 24.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,031 tons, 15.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 72 tons, 0.6 %
- Hull below water: 16 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 36 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
9,171 lbs / 4,160 Kg = 21.7 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.43
Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 12.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.32
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.569 / 0.579
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.54 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Forward deck: 33.00 %, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Quarter deck: 17.00 %, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m, 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.0 %
Waterplane Area: 21,094 Square feet or 1,960 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 524 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.67
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
72 tons Misc. weight total
Hull below water: 16 tons
4 tons sides:18" torpedo tubes (one at either end of the Citidel per side)
12 tons: 3 reloads per tube
Hull above water: 20 tons
10 tons: Flag facilities
10 tons: Reserve
On Main deck: 35 tons
10 tons: Flag facilities
26 tons: reserve
The Dutch proposal is certainly the better.
France could'nt have best proposition.