A vessel designed to keep the Swiss busy. Again using Anahuac guns types.
Justice
Firanj "Super Cruiser" laid down 1902
Displacement:
13,140 t light; 13,623 t standard; 15,000 t normal; 16,042 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
480.00 ft / 480.00 ft x 70.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
146.30 m / 146.30 m x 21.34 m x 7.32 m
Armament:
4 - 11.81" / 300 mm guns (2x2 guns), 823.82lbs / 373.68kg shells, 1902 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all amidships
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1902 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1902 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
6 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1902 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4,455 lbs / 2,021 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 70
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 365.00 ft / 111.25 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Ends: 7.00" / 178 mm 115.00 ft / 35.05 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Upper: 5.00" / 127 mm 315.00 ft / 96.01 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 9.00" / 229 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 27,000 ihp / 20,142 Kw = 21.54 kts
Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2,479 tons)
Complement:
677 - 881
Cost:
£1.500 million / $6.001 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 557 tons, 3.7 %
Armour: 4,160 tons, 27.7 %
- Belts: 1,894 tons, 12.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 738 tons, 4.9 %
- Armour Deck: 1,410 tons, 9.4 %
- Conning Tower: 118 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 4,091 tons, 27.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,282 tons, 28.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,860 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,759 lbs / 4,880 Kg = 13.1 x 11.8 " / 300 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.651
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.86 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.91 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 107.2 %
Waterplane Area: 25,407 Square feet or 2,360 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 576 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.35
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
New ship...again using Anahuac guns. This one is to give the Swiss a heart attack. ;D
Thrawn's Hand
Firanj Super Cruiser laid down 1906
Displacement:
16,172 t light; 16,776 t standard; 19,000 t normal; 20,703 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
530.00 ft / 530.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
161.54 m / 161.54 m x 24.38 m x 7.62 m
Armament:
4 - 12.99" / 330 mm guns in single mounts, 1,096.51lbs / 497.37kg shells, 1906 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all amidships
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
6 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1906 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5,545 lbs / 2,515 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 70
4 - 14.0" / 355.6 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11.0" / 279 mm 130.00 ft / 39.62 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Ends: 7.00" / 178 mm 20.00 ft / 6.10 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
380.00 ft / 115.82 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.00" / 127 mm 150.00 ft / 45.72 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 38 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.0" / 279 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 9.00" / 229 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 11.00" / 279 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 40,000 ihp / 29,840 Kw = 23.15 kts
Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 4,003 tons)
Complement:
808 - 1,051
Cost:
£1.948 million / $7.793 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 693 tons, 3.6 %
Armour: 4,032 tons, 21.2 %
- Belts: 1,039 tons, 5.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,089 tons, 5.7 %
- Armour Deck: 1,735 tons, 9.1 %
- Conning Tower: 169 tons, 0.9 %
Machinery: 5,714 tons, 30.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,632 tons, 29.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,828 tons, 14.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.5 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12,658 lbs / 5,741 Kg = 11.5 x 13.0 " / 330 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
Metacentric height 6.0 ft / 1.8 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.30
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.627
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.63 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.02 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Stern: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Average freeboard: 17.48 ft / 5.33 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 124.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121.6 %
Waterplane Area: 31,254 Square feet or 2,904 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 623 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.37
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Ithekro, Im going to have to kill you :P
The bad thing is that I cant match it with something faster.
What's with the gun layout? Looks strange.
Quote from: Desertfox on March 25, 2007, 10:19:58 PM
What's with the gun layout? Looks strange.
It looks like the guns are both grouped in the center so that the armor belt can be as minimal as possible. Still, could it cover the magazines and engines on that ship and be that short? If not, is it really worth building... because it simply becomes a really expensive breakwater. And even if it does cover the parts that go *BOOM* when they get hit, it still has paper-thin (unarmored) ends that can easily be picked at or obliterated, depending on the caliber of gun used, in order to sink it.
Actaully that is an err...they should be on the ends.
Fixed 1906 cruiser
Thrawn's Hand
Destiny (laid down in 1909)
Firanj Super Cruiser laid down 1906
Displacement:
16,438 t light; 17,042 t standard; 19,000 t normal; 20,490 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
530.00 ft / 530.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
161.54 m / 161.54 m x 24.38 m x 7.62 m
Armament:
4 - 12.99" / 330 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1,096.51lbs / 497.37kg shells, 1906 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.97kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
6 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1906 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5,545 lbs / 2,515 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 70
4 - 14.0" / 355.6 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 430.00 ft / 131.06 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Ends: 7.00" / 178 mm 100.00 ft / 30.48 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Upper: 5.00" / 127 mm 400.00 ft / 121.92 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 125 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 5.00" / 127 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm - -
- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 9.00" / 229 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 40,000 ihp / 29,840 Kw = 23.15 kts
Range 7,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 3,524 tons)
Complement:
808 - 1,051
Cost:
£1.958 million / $7.830 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 693 tons, 3.6 %
Armour: 4,248 tons, 22.4 %
- Belts: 2,172 tons, 11.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 782 tons, 4.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1,156 tons, 6.1 %
- Conning Tower: 138 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 5,714 tons, 30.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,732 tons, 30.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,562 tons, 13.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12,911 lbs / 5,856 Kg = 11.8 x 13.0 " / 330 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.32
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.29
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.627
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.63 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.02 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Stern: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
- Average freeboard: 17.48 ft / 5.33 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 124.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121.6 %
Waterplane Area: 31,254 Square feet or 2,904 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 634 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.40
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Now it's scary...
Fixed Justice.
Justice - 1902
Resolve - 1904
Firanj Super Cruiser laid down 1902
Displacement:
13,140 t light; 13,623 t standard; 15,000 t normal; 16,042 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
480.00 ft / 480.00 ft x 70.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
146.30 m / 146.30 m x 21.34 m x 7.32 m
Armament:
4 - 11.81" / 300 mm guns (2x2 guns), 823.82lbs / 373.68kg shells, 1902 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.97kg shells, 1902 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1902 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
6 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1902 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4,454 lbs / 2,020 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 70
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 365.00 ft / 111.25 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Ends: 7.00" / 178 mm 115.00 ft / 35.05 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Upper: 5.00" / 127 mm 315.00 ft / 96.01 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 9.00" / 229 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 27,000 ihp / 20,142 Kw = 21.54 kts
Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2,479 tons)
Complement:
677 - 881
Cost:
£1.500 million / $6.001 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 557 tons, 3.7 %
Armour: 4,160 tons, 27.7 %
- Belts: 1,894 tons, 12.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 738 tons, 4.9 %
- Armour Deck: 1,410 tons, 9.4 %
- Conning Tower: 118 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 4,091 tons, 27.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,282 tons, 28.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,860 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.3 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,759 lbs / 4,880 Kg = 13.1 x 11.8 " / 300 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.651
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.86 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.91 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Stern: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Average freeboard: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 107.2 %
Waterplane Area: 25,407 Square feet or 2,360 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 576 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.34
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Why does it feel France is way beyond the navy of 1906... (because the latest BB build in france was the Greater Napoleon)
Well remember, all the French warships up to Greater Napoleon are my fault...though that ship was your idea. That the French haven't built much of anything new since the last Danton was finished...well that seems to be an internal political problem. Maybe they were building ships for foreign countries instead of building ships for France?
The disaster of Greater Napoleon and the machiavelisme of Premier Palpaté did put an end on all domestic warship construction. Only the fast flottila ordered in the UKA is modern. All the rest is older than 1900.
1905 was to rough to get the French back on track. And now, another matter arises.
Firanj Fleet of the Blue Seas in 1906
2 x Justice class SC
10 x Razia Sultana class PC
10 x Gunboats
20 x Torpedo Boats
2 x Submarines (purchased 120 tons each, 1 x 14" tube)
1 x Hand of Thrawn (to be laid down 1906)
5 French Coastal Defense Battleships (purchased 1906)
Small and relatively weak fleet but the Super Cruisers are sure to give the Swiss headaches. Have aspirins been invented yet?
Super Cruisers: designed to annoy. :P
(Call it the moderators' revenge I suppose.)
Super Cruisers: when it absolutely, positively has got to be sent to Davy Jones overnight. ;D
I like 'em. Note that the DKB would be willing to sell guns to Firanj...
Potential refit of the old Caliphate round battleships.
Sudr, Hamrat, Shanab, and Hamed
Firanj Battleship laid down 1883 (rebuilt 1901)
Displacement:
3,459 t light; 3,593 t standard; 4,000 t normal; 4,310 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
120.00 ft / 120.00 ft x 120.00 ft x 13.00 ft (normal load)
36.58 m / 36.58 m x 36.58 m x 3.96 m
Armament:
1 - 12.99" / 330 mm guns in single mounts, 1,096.51lbs / 497.37kg shells, 1900 Model
Breech loading gun in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline forward
4 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1900 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
6 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1900 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
6 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1900 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,509 lbs / 684 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 60
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.00" / 229 mm 60.00 ft / 18.29 m 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
Ends: 8.00" / 203 mm 60.00 ft / 18.29 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Main Belt covers 77 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 4.00" / 102 mm 4.00" / 102 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 10.00" / 254 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 6 shafts, 1,585 ihp / 1,182 Kw = 10.00 kts
Range 7,000nm at 6.50 kts (Bunkerage = 733 tons)
Complement:
250 - 326
Cost:
£0.324 million / $1.294 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 189 tons, 4.7 %
Armour: 1,400 tons, 35.0 %
- Belts: 786 tons, 19.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 114 tons, 2.9 %
- Armour Deck: 445 tons, 11.1 %
- Conning Tower: 54 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 315 tons, 7.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,556 tons, 38.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 541 tons, 13.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6,414 lbs / 2,909 Kg = 6.5 x 13.0 " / 330 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
Metacentric height 12.3 ft / 3.8 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 67 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.67
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.748
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 10.95 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 100
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Mid (50 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Stern: 7.00 ft / 2.13 m
- Average freeboard: 9.02 ft / 2.75 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 60.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87.1 %
Waterplane Area: 12,036 Square feet or 1,118 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 616 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.80
- Longitudinal: 7.55
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability
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Quseir
Firanj Battleship laid down 1892 (Engine 1901)
Displacement:
12,025 t light; 12,496 t standard; 13,500 t normal; 14,249 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
195.00 ft / 195.00 ft x 195.00 ft x 19.00 ft (normal load)
59.44 m / 59.44 m x 59.44 m x 5.79 m
Armament:
2 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (1x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret
on centreline forward
8 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (4x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turrets
on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1892 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
6 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1892 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1892 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 5,515 lbs / 2,501 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 60
12 - 16.0" / 406.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 77.00 ft / 23.47 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
Ends: 11.0" / 279 mm 118.00 ft / 35.97 m 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
Upper: 11.0" / 279 mm 0.00 ft / 0.00 m 6.00 ft / 1.83 m
Main Belt covers 61 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.0" / 279 mm 10.0" / 254 mm -
2nd: 11.0" / 279 mm 10.0" / 254 mm -
- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 13.00" / 330 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,000 ihp / 2,238 Kw = 10.55 kts
Range 8,000nm at 8.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,806 tons)
Complement:
626 - 814
Cost:
£1.065 million / $4.258 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 689 tons, 5.1 %
Armour: 5,537 tons, 41.0 %
- Belts: 2,631 tons, 19.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,679 tons, 12.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,067 tons, 7.9 %
- Conning Tower: 159 tons, 1.2 %
Machinery: 462 tons, 3.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,325 tons, 39.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,475 tons, 10.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
23,676 lbs / 10,739 Kg = 49.7 x 9.8 " / 250 mm shells or 6.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
Metacentric height 25.5 ft / 7.8 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.80
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.654
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.96 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Mid (50 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Average freeboard: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 55.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87.8 %
Waterplane Area: 28,845 Square feet or 2,680 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 911 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.84
- Longitudinal: 4.96
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather
Revised Firanj Fleet of the Blue Seas in 1906:
2 x Justice class SC
B Sudr (scrapped?)
B Hamrat (scrapped?)
B Shanab (scrapped?)
B Hamed (scrapped?)
B Ghub
B Mezzer-i-Tikri
B Quseir
AC Kebili
AC Fanjidar
PC Kelibia
PC Hassi
TB 21-24
GB Na'am
GB Nafud
2 x Submarines (purchased 120 tons each, 1 x 14" tube)
Possible other PCs, GBs and TBs?
1 x Hand of Thrawn (to be laid down 1906)
5 French Coastal Defense Battleships (purchased 1906 to replace four older round battleships)
The New Zion thread reminded me of something. What would be Firajistan's infrastructure?
I don't think it was pinned down. Probably 5 BP and $54 revenue. Maybe 30 million people?
The Supercruiser Hand of Thrawn would laid down in the middle of 1906.
The four older round battleships would be scrapped early in 1906, the money from their scrapping would pay for the French Battleships and the two submarines, while the recovered material would be used to assist in the construction of the Hand of Thrawn.
Resolve would have just finished at the end of 1905 and ended her trails early in 1906.
Heh, heh. This is what I think the designer was going for originally...I like this design to a point. Basic difference would be that the turrets are lined up in a cross at a 90 degrees from bow to stern verse and cross at 45 degrees off of the bow of stern. This version gives a 8 guns broadside or fore and aft. The other version gives a 8 guns shot at any 45 degrees angles from the ship's centerline.
Quseir
Firanj Battleship laid down 1892 (Engine 1901)
Displacement:
12,207 t light; 12,672 t standard; 13,500 t normal; 14,108 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
195.00 ft / 195.00 ft x 195.00 ft x 19.00 ft (normal load)
59.44 m / 59.44 m x 59.44 m x 5.79 m
Armament:
6 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (3x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turrets
on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
4 - 9.84" / 250 mm guns (2x2 guns), 476.75lbs / 216.25kg shells, 1892 Model
Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turrets
on side, evenly spread
8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.97kg shells, 1892 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
6 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1892 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 1892 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 5,515 lbs / 2,501 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 60
12 - 16.0" / 406.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 77.00 ft / 23.47 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
Ends: 11.0" / 279 mm 118.00 ft / 35.97 m 17.00 ft / 5.18 m
Upper: 11.0" / 279 mm 0.00 ft / 0.00 m 6.00 ft / 1.83 m
Main Belt covers 61 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.0" / 279 mm 10.0" / 254 mm -
2nd: 11.0" / 279 mm 10.0" / 254 mm -
- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 13.00" / 330 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,500 ihp / 1,865 Kw = 10.08 kts
Range 6,500nm at 8.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,490 tons)
Complement:
626 - 814
Cost:
£1.060 million / $4.240 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 689 tons, 5.1 %
Armour: 5,619 tons, 41.6 %
- Belts: 2,631 tons, 19.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,761 tons, 13.0 %
- Armour Deck: 1,067 tons, 7.9 %
- Conning Tower: 159 tons, 1.2 %
Machinery: 385 tons, 2.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,484 tons, 40.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,293 tons, 9.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 0.2 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
24,723 lbs / 11,214 Kg = 51.9 x 9.8 " / 250 mm shells or 6.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.47
Metacentric height 26.5 ft / 8.1 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.88
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.654
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.96 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 80
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Mid (50 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Average freeboard: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 53.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87.8 %
Waterplane Area: 28,845 Square feet or 2,680 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 192 lbs/sq ft or 938 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.83
- Longitudinal: 5.07
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather
I find it interesting the the Hand of Thrawn is the only ship in the fleet that will have more weight of broadside than this one surviving round battleship...and it will only have 14 kg more weight in the broadside over the round ship. That is probably why I'm keeping this monster in the round.
Ahoj!
This is cute:
Block coefficient: 0.654
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.00 : 1
Borys
Well it is round.
Ahoj!
I know it's round. The 1:1 is simply cute.
But this:
Block coefficient: 0.654
looks kinda wrong :)
BHorys
I don't know. That's the original specification from the Caliphate of Cairo. I only changed the engine year and guns and a little extra weight for the torpedoes and a small wireless so they can report any infidel nearing the Seaway of Rightousness to the Lakes of Many Tears.
Quote from: Borys on April 13, 2007, 12:47:55 AM
Ahoj!
This is cute:
Block coefficient: 0.654
Length to Beam Ratio: 1.00 : 1
Borys
That almost makes the Dutch bathtubs look sleek...
A Round battleship approximated as a floating disk has a BC of 0.785, so 0.65 should be OK.
Ahoj!
I get it ... I think ...
Borys
Firanj's "new" ex-French Coastal Defense Battleships.
ex-Trehouart
Firanj (France) Coastal Battleship laid down 1890
Displacement:
6,374 t light; 6,686 t standard; 7,000 t normal; 7,224 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
295.00 ft / 295.00 ft x 59.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
89.92 m / 89.92 m x 17.98 m x 7.62 m
Armament:
2 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns in single mounts, 865.70lbs / 392.67kg shells, 1890 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1890 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1890 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1890 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,989 lbs / 902 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 18.0" / 457 mm 145.00 ft / 44.20 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Ends: 12.0" / 305 mm 150.00 ft / 45.72 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 76 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 14.5" / 368 mm 12.0" / 305 mm 12.0" / 305 mm
- Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,361 ihp / 4,000 Kw = 15.40 kts
Range 2,250nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 566 tons)
Complement:
382 - 497
Cost:
£0.571 million / $2.284 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 249 tons, 3.6 %
Armour: 2,957 tons, 42.2 %
- Belts: 1,456 tons, 20.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 523 tons, 7.5 %
- Armour Deck: 885 tons, 12.6 %
- Conning Tower: 94 tons, 1.3 %
Machinery: 993 tons, 14.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,175 tons, 31.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 626 tons, 8.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7,973 lbs / 3,617 Kg = 9.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.04
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.7 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.44
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.563
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Mid (50 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Stern: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Average freeboard: 13.35 ft / 4.07 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 75.6 %
Waterplane Area: 11,953 Square feet or 1,110 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 564 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.89
- Longitudinal: 2.92
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
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ex-Tempete
ex-Tonneret
Firanj (France) Coastal Defense Battleship laid down 1896
Displacement:
6,092 t light; 6,368 t standard; 6,625 t normal; 6,804 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
350.00 ft / 350.00 ft x 73.00 ft x 16.00 ft (normal load)
106.68 m / 106.68 m x 22.25 m x 4.88 m
Armament:
2 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns in single mounts, 634.55lbs / 287.83kg shells, 1896 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1896 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1896 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,642 lbs / 745 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11.0" / 279 mm 200.00 ft / 60.96 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Ends: 8.00" / 203 mm 150.00 ft / 45.72 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 4.75" / 121 mm 11.5" / 292 mm
2nd: 4.50" / 114 mm - -
- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 7,373 ihp / 5,500 Kw = 16.95 kts
Range 2,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 462 tons)
Complement:
366 - 477
Cost:
£0.558 million / $2.231 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 205 tons, 3.1 %
Armour: 2,461 tons, 37.2 %
- Belts: 1,107 tons, 16.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 332 tons, 5.0 %
- Armour Deck: 962 tons, 14.5 %
- Conning Tower: 61 tons, 0.9 %
Machinery: 1,229 tons, 18.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,197 tons, 33.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 533 tons, 8.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7,872 lbs / 3,570 Kg = 12.4 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.07
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.567
Length to Beam Ratio: 4.79 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Mid (50 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Stern: 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
- Average freeboard: 10.32 ft / 3.15 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.7 %
Waterplane Area: 17,628 Square feet or 1,638 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 492 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.21
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
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ex-Henri IV
ex-Amiral Duperre
( France) Coastal Battleship laid down 1897
Displacement:
7,972 t light; 8,367 t standard; 9,000 t normal; 9,471 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
350.00 ft / 350.00 ft x 73.00 ft x 23.00 ft (normal load)
106.68 m / 106.68 m x 22.25 m x 7.01 m
Armament:
2 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns in single mounts, 865.70lbs / 392.67kg shells, 1897 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.97kg shells, 1897 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.97kg shells, 1897 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1897 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1897 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2,439 lbs / 1,106 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 14.8" / 375 mm 175.00 ft / 53.34 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Ends: 8.50" / 216 mm 175.00 ft / 53.34 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Upper: 4.50" / 114 mm 175.00 ft / 53.34 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Main Belt covers 77 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 14.5" / 368 mm 10.0" / 254 mm 10.0" / 254 mm
2nd: 4.50" / 114 mm - 4.50" / 114 mm
3rd: 4.50" / 114 mm - -
- Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8,713 ihp / 6,500 Kw = 17.02 kts
Range 3,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,140 tons)
Complement:
461 - 600
Cost:
£0.735 million / $2.940 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 305 tons, 3.4 %
Armour: 3,555 tons, 39.5 %
- Belts: 1,645 tons, 18.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 537 tons, 6.0 %
- Armour Deck: 1,260 tons, 14.0 %
- Conning Tower: 112 tons, 1.2 %
Machinery: 1,428 tons, 15.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,684 tons, 29.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,028 tons, 11.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10,588 lbs / 4,803 Kg = 12.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.34
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.536
Length to Beam Ratio: 4.79 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Mid (50 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Stern: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Average freeboard: 12.32 ft / 3.76 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81.1 %
Waterplane Area: 17,027 Square feet or 1,582 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 113 lbs/sq ft or 553 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.98
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Firanj Fleet of the Blue Seas in 1909:
SC Hand of Thrawn
SC Justice class
SC Resolute
B Ghub
B Mezzer-i-Tikri
B Quseir (likely used as a floating battery)
B (ex-Henri IV)
B (ex-Amiral Duperre)
B (ex-Tempete)
B (ex-Tonneret)
B (ex-Trehouart) - this vessel was probably scrapped to finished the "Thrawn"
AC Kebili
AC Fanjidar
PC Kelibia
PC Hassi
TB 21-24
GB Na'am
GB Nafud
2 x Submarines (purchased 120 tons each, 1 x 14" tube)
Possible other PCs, GBs and TBs?
1 x Hand of Thrawn "Destiny" (laid down 1909)
2 x "Teichkreuzer" (laid down 1907 and 1908) (likely taken over by Brandenburg)