Hey Guys,
Just wanted to drop by and see how things are going. So how close are you guys to starting and how are you doing with the rules?
Regards,
Michael
As far as I can tell we are starting by next week and the rules have been finalized. On another note, long time no see Miketr.
It looks to be going great. Nice to see you too :D
;)
Nice to see you back Michael.
I'm always happy when I design battleships.
Play ?
Jef ;)
Heya Mike, there are a few nations kickin around if your interested in playing. but yes Rules are more or less finalised, Econ is more or less finalised. more or less we are waiting on a few players (not naming any names here) to get their pre startup stuff finished and we can roll this puppy.
Whats in need of a player?
Michael
Ottoman Empire and Austro-Hungary.
AH, the Ottomans, and the ABC nations are all semi available (you would need to talk to Darman who is caretaker for AH and the ottomans).
Quote from: miketr on October 07, 2012, 05:15:13 PM
Whats in need of a player?
Michael
I would prefer to fill the AH or Ottomans before the ABC powers
I would recommend Austria... I havent yet done her start-up budget or fleet. and she has only limited alliance entanglements.
Whats the short version of the startup background? IE date, roleplaying info, etc. There are a lot of posts, to look at. A link to look at would be helpful.
Don't wait on me, I am just poking around right now and am not making a commitment to do anything.
Michael
very little, if anything has been done to the exact back story. I suspect we will work on it as needed. Its going to parallel OTL as close as possible, but we do have some events to explain (ie how the UK has only the canal zone in Africa) IC that were done for clear OOC reasons.
For the most part, the changes are to who has what colonies: France has a lot of colonies in Africa that the UK had historically, while the Dutch retained Cape Colony. The Phillipines and Guam are still Iberian (Spain and Portugal are merged). The US is historical except for Pacific gains from the Spanish-American War.
Austria has probably gained the most: apparently the Austro-Hungarian empire conquered the area of the northern Balkan areas that historically became independent from the Ottoman Empire in the Balkan Wars of the 1870s-1900.
Quote from: KWorld on October 08, 2012, 07:36:15 AM
Austria has probably gained the most: apparently the Austro-Hungarian empire conquered the area of the northern Balkan areas that historically became independent from the Ottoman Empire in the Balkan Wars of the 1870s-1900.
I take it 1900 is the start date then?
Strange time period to have AH blitz the Balkans, in any event. Sounds Like AH is the need, I will look around for info on your startup rules.
Michael
Please correct me if I am wrong here on the following.
1) You are using a great deal of the N3 rules set Pop, IC, BP, Cash.
2) AH is to have $128 income and 18 BP. Looks like a five or ten year spending for startup? I am trying to read quickly but there is a lot to cover.
Quick questions
3) Any limitations on spending? IE can I buy more IC and BP for example?
Thats it for the moment.
Michael
Yes, 1900 is the start date. Darman has been doing some setting-up of the A-H navy, based on the historical ships and some ships derived from those historical ships that I cooked up. See this thread for details: http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5862.0.html
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:02:48 AM
Please correct me if I am wrong here on the following.
1) You are using a great deal of the N3 rules set Pop, IC, BP, Cash.
Correct.
Quote2) AH is to have $128 income and 18 BP. Looks like a five or ten year spending for startup? I am trying to read quickly but there is a lot to cover.
5 years, 10* your income and BP. so $1280 and 180 BP.
QuoteQuick questions
3) Any limitations on spending? IE can I buy more IC and BP for example?
Thats it for the moment.
No buying more IC or BP in startup is my understanding.
All logical, thanks for the answers.
Starting tech?
Michael
everyone is baseline, however starting ships should be backdated as apropriat. engine year = laydown year for startup ships , then the tech kicks in.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:07:35 AM
All logical, thanks for the answers.
Starting tech?
Michael
Naval infrastructure? IE ports, drydocks?
Michael
Costs are the N3 costs on all of that, Forts, Ports, CD guns, Slips, and Docks.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:18:04 AM
Naval infrastructure? IE ports, drydocks?
Michael
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
Costs are the N3 costs on all of that, Forts, Ports, CD guns, Slips, and Docks.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:18:04 AM
Naval infrastructure? IE ports, drydocks?
Michael
Sorry, let me clear up my question. We start with nothing I take it and it all must be bought to start?
Michael
Yup Nations start as a bare page with just the financial figures provided by snip. You figure out your IC based on your Cash, and population comes from this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_in_1900 . other than that though you buy it all.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
Costs are the N3 costs on all of that, Forts, Ports, CD guns, Slips, and Docks.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:18:04 AM
Naval infrastructure? IE ports, drydocks?
Michael
Sorry, let me clear up my question. We start with nothing I take it and it all must be bought to start?
Michael
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
Yup Nations start as a bare page with just the financial figures provided by snip. You figure out your IC based on your Cash, and population comes from this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_in_1900 . other than that though you buy it all.
Clear, thank you.
So going off this map.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/RandalthorPK/Nverse_Big_Ass_Map2-1.png
I take it people wanted to use political divisions of 19th century rather than late 20th / early 21st but you were limited to map you had to use?
Hapsburg Empire is A-H, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania and Moldavia (extended to Black Sea). With Albania, Greece, Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro as independent nations in the Balkans?
Michael
We were somewhat limited by the available map blank (I am working on an even larger version but its going to take awhile and be esentialy the same), the changes to AH were actualy mostly because I couldnt figure out how to give them colonial holdings anywhere else. As im sure you noticed Italy is greatly expanded, I wanted to give AH an equivilant expansion.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:38:57 AM
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
Yup Nations start as a bare page with just the financial figures provided by snip. You figure out your IC based on your Cash, and population comes from this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_in_1900 . other than that though you buy it all.
Clear, thank you.
So going off this map.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/RandalthorPK/Nverse_Big_Ass_Map2-1.png
I take it people wanted to use political divisions of 19th century rather than late 20th / early 21st but you were limited to map you had to use?
Hapsburg Empire is A-H, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania and Moldavia (extended to Black Sea). With Albania, Greece, Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro as independent nations in the Balkans?
Michael
Latest map that I know is: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/RandalthorPK/TheMapFinal-2.png
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 08:46:12 AM
We were somewhat limited by the available map blank (I am working on an even larger version but its going to take awhile and be esentialy the same), the changes to AH were actualy mostly because I couldnt figure out how to give them colonial holdings anywhere else. As im sure you noticed Italy is greatly expanded, I wanted to give AH an equivilant expansion.
Not complaining about territory AH has. Doesn't matter to me, its just the start up.
Comment was on the map. Do you guys remember the map blank I found? The one with all the small subdivisions? It was Victoria II province map I believe.
*DOES QUICK LOOK OF IMAGE SHACK*
Here is the final map for Europe during the aborted N4 start.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/europev7.png/
I have the blank map for the globe. SOMEPLACE on the forum should be a link to it.
In any case I have the info I need to get started. I will post a rough first pass tonight. Thanks to everyone for answering all my questions.
Michael
found the entire globe for the aborted N4 map
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1685/worldmapv5.png
Time to take kids to museum.
Michael
the much larger version im working on is based off that map. its taking awhile but ill get it finished eventualy/
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 08:46:12 AM
We were somewhat limited by the available map blank (I am working on an even larger version but its going to take awhile and be esentialy the same), the changes to AH were actualy mostly because I couldnt figure out how to give them colonial holdings anywhere else. As im sure you noticed Italy is greatly expanded, I wanted to give AH an equivilant expansion.
Not complaining about territory AH has. Doesn't matter to me, its just the start up.
Comment was on the map. Do you guys remember the map blank I found? The one with all the small subdivisions? It was Victoria II province map I believe.
*DOES QUICK LOOK OF IMAGE SHACK*
Here is the final map for Europe during the aborted N4 start.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/europev7.png/
I have the blank map for the globe. SOMEPLACE on the forum should be a link to it.
In any case I have the info I need to get started. I will post a rough first pass tonight. Thanks to everyone for answering all my questions.
Michael
Welcome back aboard Michael.
;) ;) ;)
Jef
Quote from: Jefgte on October 08, 2012, 03:52:31 PM
Welcome back aboard Michael.
Lets see if I manage to get a turn done before we celebrate.
Michael
well we are planing to move at a somewhat more reasonable pacr than N3... Turns will be one month long, and I for one will be happy to have a neighbor who isnt making Sacrifices to "The Blood God"
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: Jefgte on October 08, 2012, 03:52:31 PM
Welcome back aboard Michael.
Lets see if I manage to get a turn done before we celebrate.
Michael
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 04:08:05 PM
well we are planing to move at a somewhat more reasonable pacr than N3... Turns will be one month long, and I for one will be happy to have a neighbor who isnt making Sacrifices to "The Blood God"
Perhaps but I was the 'crusader' and some times partner of the 'blood thirsty one.'
Any diplomatic to be aware of with respect to Europe that have been worked out and are public?
Michael
Not realy, we have talked about a few things but as far as I know nothing is final just yet.
Quote from: miketr on October 08, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Quote from: Tanthalas on October 08, 2012, 04:08:05 PM
well we are planing to move at a somewhat more reasonable pacr than N3... Turns will be one month long, and I for one will be happy to have a neighbor who isnt making Sacrifices to "The Blood God"
Perhaps but I was the 'crusader' and some times partner of the 'blood thirsty one.'
Any diplomatic to be aware of with respect to Europe that have been worked out and are public?
Michael