About 50% heavier in comparison with the last Peruvian CL & 3kts faster, this class of cruisers is projeted to be LD in 1919H2 in Callao.
CL, Peru 32kts laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
6 500 t light; 6 736 t standard; 7 422 t normal; 7 971 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
546.59 ft / 546.59 ft x 55.77 ft x 20.29 ft (normal load)
166.60 m / 166.60 m x 17.00 m x 6.18 m
Armament:
8 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1916 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1916 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1905 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 865 lbs / 392 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 456.04 ft / 139.00 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 78.74 ft / 24.00 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
11.81 ft / 3.60 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 128 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
- Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 1.57" / 40 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 70 000 shp / 52 220 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 8 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 236 tons
Complement:
399 - 519
Cost:
£1.491 million / $5.965 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 108 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 720 tons, 9.7 %
- Belts: 323 tons, 4.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 37 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 346 tons, 4.7 %
- Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2 608 tons, 35.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 884 tons, 38.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 922 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 180 tons, 2.4 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5 708 lbs / 2 589 Kg = 53.3 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 13.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.420
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.80 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.38 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.28 ft / 7.40 m
- Forecastle (19 %): 20.34 ft / 6.20 m
- Mid (40 %): 17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Stern: 17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Average freeboard: 18.33 ft / 5.59 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 128.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.4 %
Waterplane Area: 19 006 Square feet or 1 766 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 91 lbs/sq ft or 446 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.54
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Lloque Yupanqui LD 1919H2
Capac Yupanqui LD 1919H2
152mm is a strange caliber for a naval gun. Are you buying them from the Russians? 8)
1905 - 152 - 6"/45 cal - 49kg - 108.00 lbs – Casemate – M2 & T2
really 152.4 mm
;)
1000t heavier
NUS, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
7 500 t light; 7 785 t standard; 8 477 t normal; 9 030 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 55.77 ft x 22.18 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.00 m x 6.76 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 294 lbs / 587 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 433.07 ft / 132.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 32.04 kts
Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 245 tons
Complement:
441 - 574
Cost:
£1.681 million / $6.723 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 162 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 1 238 tons, 14.6 %
- Belts: 553 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 88 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 569 tons, 6.7 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 31.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 253 tons, 38.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 977 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 2.2 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 968 lbs / 3 161 Kg = 64.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.430
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Stern: 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Average freeboard: 18.88 ft / 5.76 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.6 %
Waterplane Area: 19 534 Square feet or 1 815 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs/sq ft or 472 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.62
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
My! 7500 tons is a light cruiser now...
I think the combination of 6" and 120mm guns is redundant and will result in FC difficulties. Better would be either a smaller ship without the 120mm's, or a ship with say 10 or 12 6".
I can see including a few (maybe up to 4) sub-caliber guns on a ship meant for commerce raiding for dispatching smaller game without wasting 6" ammunition. This would be more like 75mm - 105mm guns though. These you wouldn't use with centralized FC.
Also: the BC is maybe a little low for such a large ship.
This class is made for scouting the battleline & ...repulse DDs too.
120mm QF twin mounts are welcome for that job.
Jef
6" is just fine for repulsing DDs, especially if you have more of them. 152mm and 120mm are actually pretty close in capability in that regard, so I really don't think you need both. It seems like a very retrograde design decision for a ship built in the 20's to me.
IMO, lighter guns like 4" or 3" are now too small for engage 1500t DDs & heavier in a few years.
T2x150 is too heavy, M2x120 QF is adequate to engage DDs, mobility rate of fire, range &... damages.
Real History is the referent but not the absolute rule.
Jef
Quote...Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
...
The last SS remove completly all 4T2x120mm & 2T2x152 are add. The cruiser is now with 6T2x152mm
- 3 fore & 3 aft (ala Mogami)
2 fire control systems (round mast light top blockaus) as usualy installed on ACs & BBs Peruvian ships.
- The other guns are 4 mounts with 2x40mm AA
Drawing to come with new NUS flag on the funnels...
Jef ;)
2 CLs laid down in 1919H2 in Callao Shipyards
Lloque Yupanqui & Capac Yupanqui
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9073/1919cl7500tyupanquiclas.jpg) (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/1919cl7500tyupanquiclas.jpg/)
7500t Yupanqui class, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
7 500 t light; 7 817 t standard; 8 510 t normal; 9 065 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 55.77 ft x 22.27 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.00 m x 6.79 m
Armament:
12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 1 312 lbs / 595 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 433.07 ft / 132.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 32.02 kts
Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 248 tons
Complement:
442 - 575
Cost:
£1.685 million / $6.740 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 164 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 1 257 tons, 14.8 %
- Belts: 553 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 107 tons, 1.3 %
- Armour Deck: 569 tons, 6.7 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 31.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 221 tons, 37.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 010 tons, 11.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.4 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 941 lbs / 3 148 Kg = 64.3 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.430
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Stern: 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Average freeboard: 18.88 ft / 5.76 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.4 %
Waterplane Area: 19 534 Square feet or 1 815 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 467 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.60
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Lloque Yupanqui - Capac Yupanqui
Very pretty ships Jef! I'd say the only things I'd change are to use mount & hoist instead of turret & barbette for the 15cm, this would allow you to use the 100t Cruiser FC instead of the 250t BB FC (which is required w/ T&B mounts IIRC) and cut the 20mm armor off the 12.7mm Mgs. I maybe would consider upping the 15cm mounts armor to something like 50/25/60 since you don't have an upper belt having only 20mm of armor on the handling rooms could be bad. Once down to the magazine you'd be behind the 80mm belt, but the shell handling room and whatnot will be just below the deck and have no side protection other than the 'hoist/barbette' armor. My 2cents.
Turrets armor adjustments...
7500t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
7 500 t light; 7 817 t standard; 8 510 t normal; 9 065 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 55.77 ft x 22.27 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.00 m x 6.79 m
Armament:
12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 1 312 lbs / 595 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 433.07 ft / 132.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 32.02 kts
Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 248 tons
Complement:
442 - 575
Cost:
£1.685 million / $6.740 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 164 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 1 264 tons, 14.9 %
- Belts: 553 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 114 tons, 1.3 %
- Armour Deck: 569 tons, 6.7 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 31.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 214 tons, 37.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 010 tons, 11.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.4 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 920 lbs / 3 139 Kg = 64.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.430
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Stern: 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Average freeboard: 18.85 ft / 5.75 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.4 %
Waterplane Area: 19 534 Square feet or 1 815 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 467 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.59
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Lloque Yupanqui - Capac Yupanqui
NUS project for 1919H2
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7799/191913980t4t2x275.jpg) (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/191913980t4t2x275.jpg/)
Lloque Yupanqui, NUS AC laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
13 980 t light; 14 696 t standard; 15 631 t normal; 16 379 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 73.49 ft x 25.82 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 22.40 m x 7.87 m
Armament:
4 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
4 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 721 lbs / 2 595 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 144.36 ft / 44.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
52.49 ft / 16.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.35" / 85 mm 7.87" / 200 mm
2nd: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.35" / 85 mm 7.87" / 200 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 2.17" / 55 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 110 shp / 59 762 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 682 tons
Complement:
698 - 908
Cost:
£3.241 million / $12.963 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 688 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 3 832 tons, 24.5 %
- Belts: 1 583 tons, 10.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 032 tons, 6.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1 111 tons, 7.1 %
- Conning Tower: 106 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 2 985 tons, 19.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 175 tons, 39.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 651 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.9 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
16 465 lbs / 7 468 Kg = 25.9 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 16.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.517
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.59 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Stern: 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Average freeboard: 19.87 ft / 6.06 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.0 %
Waterplane Area: 27 739 Square feet or 2 577 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 145 lbs/sq ft or 707 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.83
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Now this ship I like
Small fast with adequate armor.
I have no Idea what will it be good for but I like it.
You need more light cruisers, not armoured cruisers.....just saying.
Well it's similar in layout to the Bavarian AC I posted a bit ago, but on a lower displacement.
I was a little concerned on the beam, but considering Invincible had 12" guns in that arrangement, not 10.75", the 5 ft. less beam seems reasonable. Armor is good vs 8-9" guns at reasonable ranges.
I would think that the NUS, with the S. Atlantic as a field of operations, may find sea keeping of more import and worth "spending" on a larger ship to obtain.
Quote...You need more light cruisers, not armoured cruisers...
I need
modern ACs & CLs...
They are going to be built nearly in the same period.
After studying many SS with 234 & 275 guns, this one is the well balanced.
With nearly 14000t, 170m hull, 4T2x275, correct protection & good sea boat @28kts - 29kts is the top speed.
Jef
Always 1919H2 project
Light Derfflinger, NUS AC laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
13 980 t light; 14 680 t standard; 15 614 t normal; 16 362 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 76.77 ft x 24.69 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 23.40 m x 7.52 m
Armament:
8 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (4x2 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 721 lbs / 2 595 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.09" / 180 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 170.60 ft / 52.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
26.25 ft / 8.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 7.09" / 180 mm
2nd: 2.36" / 60 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.81" / 46 mm, Conning tower: 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 80 660 shp / 60 172 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 682 tons
Complement:
697 - 907
Cost:
£3.247 million / $12.988 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 688 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 3 591 tons, 23.0 %
- Belts: 1 450 tons, 9.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 075 tons, 6.9 %
- Armour Deck: 971 tons, 6.2 %
- Conning Tower: 95 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 3 005 tons, 19.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 395 tons, 41.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 635 tons, 10.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.9 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17 065 lbs / 7 741 Kg = 26.9 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.517
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.26 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.59 ft / 7.80 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.64 ft / 6.90 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Stern: 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Average freeboard: 20.73 ft / 6.32 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.8 %
Waterplane Area: 28 978 Square feet or 2 692 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 716 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.82
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Other 1919H2 project
CL5970t, NUS 6000T Fleet Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
5 970 t light; 6 226 t standard; 7 028 t normal; 7 670 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 59.06 ft x 16.82 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 18.00 m x 5.13 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
2 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships
2 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 000 lbs / 454 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 482.28 ft / 147.00 m 9.45 ft / 2.88 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 133 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 68 000 shp / 50 728 Kw = 31.97 kts
Range 7 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 444 tons
Complement:
383 - 498
Cost:
£1.459 million / $5.836 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 125 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 335 tons, 4.8 %
- Belts: 286 tons, 4.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 50 tons, 0.7 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2 534 tons, 36.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 846 tons, 40.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 058 tons, 15.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 130 tons, 1.8 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5 266 lbs / 2 389 Kg = 48.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 13.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.24
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.444
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.44 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Mid (40 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Stern: 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Average freeboard: 16.36 ft / 4.99 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121.9 %
Waterplane Area: 20 908 Square feet or 1 942 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 91 lbs/sq ft or 446 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.14
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Lighter
CL5000t, Peru 5000T PCruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
5 000 t light; 5 232 t standard; 5 815 t normal; 6 281 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
495.41 ft / 495.41 ft x 49.21 ft x 17.25 ft (normal load)
151.00 m / 151.00 m x 15.00 m x 5.26 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
4 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 000 lbs / 454 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 396.98 ft / 121.00 m 12.01 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 1.18" / 30 mm 32.81 ft / 10.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
65.62 ft / 20.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 123 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 0.79" / 20 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 49 618 shp / 37 015 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 8 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 049 tons
Complement:
332 - 432
Cost:
£1.176 million / $4.702 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 125 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 673 tons, 11.6 %
- Belts: 390 tons, 6.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 50 tons, 0.9 %
- Armour Deck: 233 tons, 4.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1 849 tons, 31.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 234 tons, 38.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 815 tons, 14.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 2.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 805 lbs / 2 180 Kg = 44.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 13.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.484
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.07 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.26 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.65 ft / 6.60 m
- Forecastle (19 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 16.89 ft / 5.15 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 122.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.5 %
Waterplane Area: 16 012 Square feet or 1 488 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 410 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.47
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
NUS Pacific Shipyards could built 2x6720t CL in 1919-1920-
These cruisers '' ll name Cuntisuyu & Collasuyu
6720t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
6 720 t light; 6 979 t standard; 7 590 t normal; 8 079 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
551.18 ft / 551.18 ft x 55.12 ft x 18.45 ft (normal load)
168.00 m / 168.00 m x 16.80 m x 5.62 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
1 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing gun in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 030 lbs / 467 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 465.88 ft / 142.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 130 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 2.36" / 60 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 72 000 shp / 53 712 Kw = 31.96 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 100 tons
Complement:
406 - 528
Cost:
£1.569 million / $6.274 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 129 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 970 tons, 12.8 %
- Belts: 541 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 49 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 360 tons, 4.7 %
- Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 683 tons, 35.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 824 tons, 37.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 870 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 115 tons, 1.5 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5 455 lbs / 2 474 Kg = 50.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 13.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.474
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.48 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 16.81 ft / 5.13 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 129.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110.1 %
Waterplane Area: 19 777 Square feet or 1 837 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 441 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.22
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Cuntisuyu - Collasuyu
Last adjustements for Cuntisuyu class
(hull form - 4x120)
6720t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
6 720 t light; 6 985 t standard; 7 595 t normal; 8 082 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
538.06 ft / 538.06 ft x 53.81 ft x 19.37 ft (normal load)
164.00 m / 164.00 m x 16.40 m x 5.90 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 083 lbs / 491 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 456.04 ft / 139.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 130 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 2.36" / 60 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 72 038 shp / 53 740 Kw = 31.88 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 097 tons
Complement:
406 - 528
Cost:
£1.581 million / $6.324 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 135 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 954 tons, 12.6 %
- Belts: 529 tons, 7.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 62 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 343 tons, 4.5 %
- Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 684 tons, 35.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 827 tons, 37.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 875 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 1.6 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5 251 lbs / 2 382 Kg = 48.6 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.42
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.474
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.20 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.65 ft / 6.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.08 ft / 4.90 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 16.08 ft / 4.90 m
- Stern: 16.08 ft / 4.90 m
- Average freeboard: 17.32 ft / 5.28 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106.1 %
Waterplane Area: 18 846 Square feet or 1 751 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 449 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.37
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
The Raider Cruisers Amazonas & Tarapaca are now obsolete , poor armament, low speed, light armor... but they are just 10yo.
NUS Admiralty is studying the possiblity to rebuilt these cruisers.
1st project: Squadron DDs Leader
Change armament to 4T2x120 - 12x533TT - 30kts.
2nd project: Seaplane Carrier
Reduce armament to 1T2x120 & 2 seaplanes after the 3rd funnel -29.8kts.
3rd project: Light Carrier
Made the rebuilt a few years later, to have the technos, with a complete deck for 10 Aircrafts - 28.9kts.
The cost is about 2BPs & 2.2$.
Here are 2 studies rebuilts.
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8301/1925amazonascarrier.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/1925amazonascarrier.jpg/)
Jef
The Cls studies were upgrade to 7000t to have better performances.
7000t, NUS Light Cruiser Cuntisuyu & Collasuyu laid down 1919H2 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
7 000 t light; 7 287 t standard; 8 047 t normal; 8 655 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
556.36 ft / 554.46 ft x 55.45 ft x 18.70 ft (normal load)
169.58 m / 169.00 m x 16.90 m x 5.70 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 083 lbs / 491 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 127 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 74 600 shp / 55 651 Kw = 31.91 kts
Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 368 tons
Complement:
424 - 552
Cost:
£1.632 million / $6.526 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 135 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 1 030 tons, 12.8 %
- Belts: 571 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 62 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 370 tons, 4.6 %
- Conning Tower: 27 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 779 tons, 34.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 955 tons, 36.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 047 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1.2 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5 954 lbs / 2 701 Kg = 55.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 13.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.65 ft / 6.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 17.11 ft / 5.21 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110.3 %
Waterplane Area: 20 299 Square feet or 1 886 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 449 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.22
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Testing quickly a Coastal BB for Pacific
3T2x400-AB-Y, NUS Coastal BB laid down 1926
Displacement:
19 900 t light; 21 132 t standard; 22 480 t normal; 23 559 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 88.58 ft x 26.54 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 27.00 m x 8.09 m
Armament:
6 - 15.75" / 400 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2 000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1926 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward
12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (6x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1926 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1926 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1926 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 12 649 lbs / 5 737 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.6" / 320 mm 334.65 ft / 102.00 m 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 144.36 ft / 44.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
78.74 ft / 24.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 4.72" / 120 mm 334.65 ft / 102.00 m 12.73 ft / 3.88 m
Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.57" / 40 mm 334.65 ft / 102.00 m 25.49 ft / 7.77 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.4" / 340 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 12.60" / 320 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 36 000 shp / 26 856 Kw = 22.06 kts
Range 7 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 427 tons
Complement:
917 - 1 193
Cost:
£7.449 million / $29.794 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 546 tons, 6.9 %
Armour: 8 517 tons, 37.9 %
- Belts: 3 550 tons, 15.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 497 tons, 2.2 %
- Armament: 1 622 tons, 7.2 %
- Armour Deck: 2 632 tons, 11.7 %
- Conning Tower: 216 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 1 152 tons, 5.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 385 tons, 37.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 580 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.3 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
28 502 lbs / 12 928 Kg = 14.6 x 15.7 " / 400 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 16.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.63
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.30 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Forecastle (22 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.6 %
Waterplane Area: 36 135 Square feet or 3 357 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 843 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.44
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Testing the Gunboat with 1912 Bariloche guns (6x234) & 1909 Amazonas oil engines (20000shp).
real coast 3.89BP
Lima-Buenos Aires, NUS CGB laid down 1922 (Engine 1909)
Displacement:
4 950 t light; 5 237 t standard; 5 937 t normal; 6 498 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
393.70 ft / 393.70 ft x 59.06 ft x 15.28 ft (normal load)
120.00 m / 120.00 m x 18.00 m x 4.66 m
Armament:
2 - 9.20" / 234 mm guns in single mounts, 389.34lbs / 176.60kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread
4 - 9.20" / 234 mm guns in single mounts, 389.34lbs / 176.60kg shells, 1912 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1922 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1922 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1922 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 766 lbs / 1 255 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 255.91 ft / 78.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
13.12 ft / 4.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.36" / 60 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 2.36" / 60 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20 000 shp / 14 920 Kw = 22.68 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 260 tons
Complement:
337 - 439
Cost:
£1.612 million / $6.447 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 346 tons, 5.8 %
Armour: 966 tons, 16.3 %
- Belts: 403 tons, 6.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 113 tons, 1.9 %
- Armour Deck: 427 tons, 7.2 %
- Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 909 tons, 15.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 430 tons, 40.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 987 tons, 16.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 5.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6 689 lbs / 3 034 Kg = 17.2 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.68
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.04
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.585
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forecastle (23 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarterdeck (21 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 14.61 ft / 4.45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.9 %
Waterplane Area: 16 768 Square feet or 1 558 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 510 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.70
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
With the engines of the cruisers Amazonas & Tarapaca
1909-1910 techno 54190shp in all - modified to burn oil, Callao shipyards could laid down in 1921H2 ;1 AC in surplus of the program
The speed is just enough to work with the classic 27kts NUS cruisers.
Protection is correct vs 9"2 shells
The main artillery with 300kg shell is good vs 7" armor, classic on AC -
but reduce to 6 guns due to the limited performance made by the 1909 engines.
Note: "Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform"
to maintain high speed in heavy sea.
Cost: 8.612BP & 11.075$
Lima, NUS AC laid down 1921 (Engine 1909)
Displacement:
11 075 t light; 11 755 t standard; 12 880 t normal; 13 780 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 66.93 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 20.40 m x 6.40 m
Armament:
6 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (2x3 guns), 661.39lbs / 300.00kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (6x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1921 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 4 609 lbs / 2 091 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 160
12 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 6.89" / 175 mm 357.61 ft / 109.00 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 157.48 ft / 48.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
42.65 ft / 13.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 6.89" / 175 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 6.89" / 175 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 54 190 shp / 40 426 Kw = 27.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 025 tons
Complement:
603 - 785
Cost:
£3.053 million / $12.213 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 556 tons, 4.3 %
Armour: 2 740 tons, 21.3 %
- Belts: 1 123 tons, 8.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 564 tons, 4.4 %
- Armour Deck: 971 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 82 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 2 463 tons, 19.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 016 tons, 38.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 805 tons, 14.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2.3 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
13 969 lbs / 6 336 Kg = 22.0 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.75
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.575
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.33 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.62 ft / 7.20 m
- Forecastle (23 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Quarterdeck (21 %): 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Stern: 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Average freeboard: 18.25 ft / 5.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.0 %
Waterplane Area: 26 670 Square feet or 2 478 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 127 lbs/sq ft or 621 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.38
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Start mid 1919, in Callao Shipyards 2 x 6" cruisers - Cuntisuyu & Collasuyu
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Note that NUS Admiralty choose, with the armament disposition, the possibility to engage 3 DDs.
Fore & aft 6" turrets could engage 2 differents targets & the middle 120mm guns had the own directory fire control for a third target.
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7200t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
7 200 t light; 7 485 t standard; 8 256 t normal; 8 874 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
556.36 ft / 554.46 ft x 55.45 ft x 19.18 ft (normal load)
169.58 m / 169.00 m x 16.90 m x 5.85 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 083 lbs / 491 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 190
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 127 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 75 960 shp / 56 666 Kw = 31.93 kts
Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 389 tons
Complement:
432 - 562
Cost:
£1.662 million / $6.650 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 135 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 991 tons, 12.0 %
- Belts: 533 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 60 tons, 0.7 %
- Armour Deck: 370 tons, 4.5 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 830 tons, 34.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 995 tons, 36.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 056 tons, 12.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 249 tons, 3.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5 920 lbs / 2 685 Kg = 54.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.490
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.65 ft / 6.60 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 17.37 ft / 5.30 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 127.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.8 %
Waterplane Area: 20 299 Square feet or 1 886 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 450 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.26
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
100t -fire control
25t -Marconi long range
24t - torpedoes
20t - for 60 depth charges
80t - for 80 mines
I don't see the need for 152mm and 120mm guns on the same ship. If they ever engage the same target fire control will be confused. I suspect you could simply ship an additional pair of 152mm guns instead.
QuoteI don't see the need for 152mm and 120mm guns on the same ship. If they ever engage the same target fire control will be confused. I suspect you could simply ship an additional pair of 152mm guns instead.
This choice was made early but not retain.
The protection of the BBs against torpedo boats charge
was considered as a new job for the 6" cruisers by NUS Admiralty, so engage 3 differents targets (4x6" fore + 3x120 middle + 4x6" aft) was add in the concept to the classic 1 vs 1
For memory...
EC-27000SHP, NUS 2T3x230 laid down 1921 (Engine 1909)
Displacement:
6 210 t light; 6 540 t standard; 7 330 t normal; 7 961 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
492.13 ft / 492.13 ft x 55.77 ft x 18.69 ft (normal load)
150.00 m / 150.00 m x 17.00 m x 5.70 m
Armament:
6 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (2x3 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1921 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 657 lbs / 1 205 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120
6 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 308.40 ft / 94.00 m 9.45 ft / 2.88 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
52.49 ft / 16.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 2.36" / 60 mm 4.72" / 120 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 000 shp / 20 142 Kw = 24.67 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 421 tons
Complement:
395 - 514
Cost:
£1.701 million / $6.803 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 332 tons, 4.5 %
Armour: 1 437 tons, 19.6 %
- Belts: 644 tons, 8.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 288 tons, 3.9 %
- Armour Deck: 466 tons, 6.4 %
- Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 1 227 tons, 16.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 913 tons, 39.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 120 tons, 15.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 4.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7 956 lbs / 3 609 Kg = 21.4 x 9.1 " / 230 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.82 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
- Quarterdeck (16 %): 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
- Stern: 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
- Average freeboard: 13.82 ft / 4.21 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.4 %
Waterplane Area: 18 288 Square feet or 1 699 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 520 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.25
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Amazonas engines-27000shp-
cost-5BP & 6.21$
a Study to replace in 1928-30, the old PDNs
Sin Miedo (Fearless-Peur de rien), NUS Pocket BB-Coastal defender laid down 1926
Displacement:
10 000 t light; 10 512 t standard; 11 138 t normal; 11 639 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
393.70 ft / 393.70 ft x 74.48 ft x 22.16 ft (normal load)
120.00 m / 120.00 m x 22.70 m x 6.75 m
Armament:
4 - 13.39" / 340 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1 200.00lbs / 544.31kg shells, 1926 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (2x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1926 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (1x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1926 Model
Quick firing guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1926 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1926 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 124 lbs / 2 324 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.6" / 320 mm 259.19 ft / 79.00 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 98.43 ft / 30.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
36.09 ft / 11.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.38" / 35 mm 259.19 ft / 79.00 m 21.98 ft / 6.70 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.4" / 340 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 2.76" / 70 mm, Conning tower: 11.81" / 300 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 29 000 shp / 21 634 Kw = 22.39 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 127 tons
Complement:
541 - 704
Cost:
£3.516 million / $14.063 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 640 tons, 5.7 %
Armour: 3 890 tons, 34.9 %
- Belts: 1 502 tons, 13.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 290 tons, 2.6 %
- Armament: 877 tons, 7.9 %
- Armour Deck: 1 093 tons, 9.8 %
- Conning Tower: 127 tons, 1.1 %
Machinery: 928 tons, 8.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 246 tons, 38.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 138 tons, 10.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 296 tons, 2.7 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15 152 lbs / 6 873 Kg = 12.6 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 3.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 16.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.54
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.29 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.31 ft / 6.80 m
- Forecastle (23 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Quarterdeck (21 %): 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Stern: 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
- Average freeboard: 17.41 ft / 5.31 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126.1 %
Waterplane Area: 21 445 Square feet or 1 992 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 687 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.55
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent