Same configuration as "first batch":
Ocean-class II, Esc Bb laid down 1921
Displacement:
35.330 t light; 37.344 t standard; 40.175 t normal; 42.440 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
720,50 ft / 716,86 ft x 98,43 ft x 31,99 ft (normal load)
219,61 m / 218,50 m x 30,00 m x 9,75 m
Armament:
9 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
12 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (6x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
2 - 3,94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30,51lbs / 13,84kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 19.558 lbs / 8.872 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 426,84 ft / 130,10 m 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 426,84 ft / 130,10 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,97" / 50 mm 537,66 ft / 163,88 m 29,89 ft / 9,11 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 2,95" / 75 mm 0,79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 5,91" / 150 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 88.819 shp / 66.259 Kw = 26,00 kts
Range 10.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5.096 tons
Complement:
1.418 - 1.844
Cost:
£9,465 million / $37,860 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.445 tons, 6,1 %
Armour: 15.038 tons, 37,4 %
- Belts: 4.819 tons, 12,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1.170 tons, 2,9 %
- Armament: 2.941 tons, 7,3 %
- Armour Deck: 5.760 tons, 14,3 %
- Conning Tower: 348 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 3.059 tons, 7,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14.139 tons, 35,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.844 tons, 12,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 650 tons, 1,6 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
50.379 lbs / 22.852 Kg = 24,9 x 15,9 " / 405 mm shells or 7,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 6,1 ft / 1,9 m
Roll period: 16,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,623
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,28 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forecastle (10 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Mid (50 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Stern: 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Average freeboard: 19,31 ft / 5,89 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135,7 %
Waterplane Area: 52.722 Square feet or 4.898 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 194 lbs/sq ft or 947 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,24
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
And then a A.B.Y configuration:
Ocean-class II, Esc Bb laid down 1921
Displacement:
35.871 t light; 37.896 t standard; 40.755 t normal; 43.042 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
720,50 ft / 716,86 ft x 98,43 ft x 31,99 ft (normal load)
219,61 m / 218,50 m x 30,00 m x 9,75 m
Armament:
9 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (6x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
2 - 3,94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30,51lbs / 13,84kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 19.558 lbs / 8.872 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,8" / 325 mm 421,59 ft / 128,50 m 15,19 ft / 4,63 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 421,59 ft / 128,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,97" / 50 mm 537,66 ft / 163,88 m 30,68 ft / 9,35 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 5,91" / 150 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 89.898 shp / 67.064 Kw = 26,00 kts
Range 10.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5.146 tons
Complement:
1.433 - 1.864
Cost:
£9,526 million / $38,106 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.445 tons, 6,0 %
Armour: 14.902 tons, 36,6 %
- Belts: 4.495 tons, 11,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1.201 tons, 2,9 %
- Armament: 3.096 tons, 7,6 %
- Armour Deck: 5.808 tons, 14,3 %
- Conning Tower: 301 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 3.096 tons, 7,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14.779 tons, 36,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.884 tons, 12,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 650 tons, 1,6 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
50.419 lbs / 22.870 Kg = 24,9 x 15,9 " / 405 mm shells or 7,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 5,7 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 17,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,74
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,632
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,28 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forecastle (10 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Mid (50 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Stern: 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Average freeboard: 19,31 ft / 5,89 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135,4 %
Waterplane Area: 53.163 Square feet or 4.939 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 201 lbs/sq ft or 983 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,23
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
and Third "The Nelson"configuration:
Ocean-class II, Esc Bb laid down 1921
Displacement:
36.292 t light; 38.326 t standard; 41.206 t normal; 43.511 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
720,50 ft / 716,86 ft x 98,43 ft x 31,99 ft (normal load)
219,61 m / 218,50 m x 30,00 m x 9,75 m
Armament:
9 - 15,94" / 405 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2.026,91lbs / 919,39kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (6x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
2 - 3,94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30,51lbs / 13,84kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 19.558 lbs / 8.872 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 419,95 ft / 128,00 m 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 419,95 ft / 128,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,97" / 50 mm 419,95 ft / 128,00 m 32,81 ft / 10,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 2,95" / 75 mm 0,79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 5,91" / 150 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 90.739 shp / 67.691 Kw = 26,00 kts
Range 10.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5.185 tons
Complement:
1.445 - 1.879
Cost:
£9,574 million / $38,297 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.445 tons, 5,9 %
Armour: 15.409 tons, 37,4 %
- Belts: 5.093 tons, 12,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1.004 tons, 2,4 %
- Armament: 3.112 tons, 7,6 %
- Armour Deck: 5.846 tons, 14,2 %
- Conning Tower: 354 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 3.125 tons, 7,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 14.664 tons, 35,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.915 tons, 11,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 650 tons, 1,6 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
51.214 lbs / 23.230 Kg = 25,3 x 15,9 " / 405 mm shells or 7,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
Metacentric height 5,7 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 17,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,75
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,639
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,28 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forecastle (10 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Mid (50 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Stern: 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Average freeboard: 19,31 ft / 5,89 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135,1 %
Waterplane Area: 53.507 Square feet or 4.971 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs/sq ft or 970 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,28
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Which One ??? ??? all feedback appreciated!!
Ahoj!
I consider all three to be equally bad, but the first (evenly spread) is the least bad of the lot.
Borys
QuoteI consider all three to be equally bad
What u mean,u not nice :D :D :D
Ahoj!
They can't shoot - and that's what battleships are for - to shoot at other battleships.
Borys
QuoteThey can't shoot
øhhh,what do u mean ??? ??? ???
Quote from: ledeper on December 26, 2009, 11:13:09 AM
QuoteThey can't shoot
øhhh,what do u mean ??? ??? ???
Probably a combination of the low stability (all less than 60%) and the highish recoil (0.66, 0.74, and 0.75)
QuoteEnds: Unarmoured...
No protection for the BB stem !!!
IMO, All or nothing mean light protection.
Jef
To me it means either well protected or no armor at all. :)
Quote from: Sachmle on December 26, 2009, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: ledeper on December 26, 2009, 11:13:09 AM
QuoteThey can't shoot
øhhh,what do u mean ??? ??? ???
Probably a combination of the low stability (all less than 60%) and the highish recoil (0.66, 0.74, and 0.75)
Yes, this is what I had in mind.
Borys