Actually on Bahia Blanco Slipway
This BB "ll be commissioned in 1919
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Independencia, NUS Battleship laid down 1915 (Engine 1912)
Displacement:
25.265 t light; 26.794 t standard; 28.710 t normal; 30.243 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
629,69 ft / 623,36 ft x 98,43 ft x 28,87 ft (normal load)
191,93 m / 190,00 m x 30,00 m x 8,80 m
Armament:
12 - 13,50" / 343 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1.230,19lbs / 558,00kg shells, 1914 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
18 - 6,00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108,00lbs / 48,99kg shells, 1905 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm guns in single mounts, 13,50lbs / 6,12kg shells, 1905 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 1,00" / 25,4 mm guns in single mounts, 0,50lbs / 0,23kg shells, 1905 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 16.816 lbs / 7.628 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
3 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 410,11 ft / 125,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: 4,33" / 110 mm 209,97 ft / 64,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 360,89 ft / 110,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,38" / 35 mm 410,11 ft / 125,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 7,87" / 200 mm 12,2" / 310 mm
2nd: 5,91" / 150 mm - -
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3,15" / 80 mm, Conning tower: 5,91" / 150 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 39.628 shp / 29.563 Kw = 22,00 kts
Range 8.500nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3.449 tons
Complement:
1.102 - 1.433
Cost:
£4,176 million / $16,705 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.102 tons, 7,3 %
Armour: 10.156 tons, 35,4 %
- Belts: 4.202 tons, 14,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 480 tons, 1,7 %
- Armament: 2.819 tons, 9,8 %
- Armour Deck: 2.536 tons, 8,8 %
- Conning Tower: 119 tons, 0,4 %
Machinery: 1.580 tons, 5,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10.952 tons, 38,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3.445 tons, 12,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 475 tons, 1,7 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
31.005 lbs / 14.064 Kg = 25,2 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 5,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 5,8 ft / 1,8 m
Roll period: 17,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,50
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,21
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0,567
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,33 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23,62 ft / 7,20 m
- Forecastle (38 %): 21,65 ft / 6,60 m (13,45 ft / 4,10 m aft of break)
- Mid (60 %): 13,45 ft / 4,10 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 13,45 ft / 4,10 m
- Stern: 13,45 ft / 4,10 m
- Average freeboard: 16,87 ft / 5,14 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,2 %
Waterplane Area: 43.518 Square feet or 4.043 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 189 lbs/sq ft or 922 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,25
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
The conning tower can't resist a regular HE shell. Try to increase that to 12''.
Nah I would say its too heavy already. I try to keep it to 4" armour; enough to stop splinters but not enough to stop the enemy shell.
The problem is even if you armour so the shell can't penetrate, the resulting shockwaves will render the electronics in the CT useless. Not to mention the personnel inside tossed around like ragdolls.
With light armour the shell will just cleaning pass through, it'll fly in from one side and other the other without any chance to explode. Only a few personnel are lsot and the electronics are undamaged.
But that's just my approach.
Quote from: TexanCowboy on November 26, 2009, 08:42:59 AM
The conning tower can't resist a regular HE shell. Try to increase that to 12''.
If something that would fire HE at your CT is close enough to fire HE at you CT you've got bigger problems than the CL/DD that's shooting at you, namely it's torpedoes.
I agree with you.
This was an Argentina concept, not a Peruvian concept.
I could probably decrease misc. weight & increase CT armour.
Jef
Quote from: Logi on November 26, 2009, 08:48:11 AM
The problem is even if you armour so the shell can't penetrate, the resulting shockwaves will render the electronics in the CT useless. Not to mention the personnel inside tossed around like ragdolls.
That was the British theory at the end, plus senior officers tend to be outside the armor anyhow to look around. However, as PoW at Denmark strait shows, folks in unarmored areas can take casualties from large shells just passing through. I suppose folks in lightly armored areas could be damaged by ejected armor chunks as well.
However electronics will be minimal in this time frame. One of the issues I think was that as electronics grew, became more difficult to fit inside a conning tower anyhow. Thats not yet a problem here. Plus I wonder if it's easier to repair electronics damaged by shockwave, or damaged by chunks of metal?
I wonder how an outer armor shell with a void space and inner liner would work for buffering the shockwave of a non-penetration?
I have no clue, but it saves weight :P
I remember too that the blockaus of the Bismarck (360mm) was destroyed by a Rodney shell.
Hmmmm, I prefer to increase the thickness ot Independencia blockhaus.
Jef
Quote from: Jefgte on November 26, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
I remember too that the blockaus of the Bismarck (360mm) was destroyed by a Rodney shell.
Hmmmm, I prefer to increase the thickness ot Independencia blockhaus.
Jef
Even 360 mm of armor can be penetrated by a 406mm 16" shell fired at the ranges Rodney was firing at bismark.
Charles
Now NUS had quad turrets -
Here is a possible AC with 2T4x234-
12000t, NUS AC laid down 1920 (Engine 1918)
Displacement:
12 000 t light; 12 503 t standard; 13 637 t normal; 14 544 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
649.61 ft / 649.61 ft x 67.26 ft x 26.01 ft (normal load)
198.00 m / 198.00 m x 20.50 m x 7.93 m
Armament:
8 - 9.20" / 234 mm guns (2x4 guns), 389.34lbs / 176.60kg shells, 1920 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns (4x2 guns), 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1920 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1920 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1920 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 379 lbs / 1 533 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 459.32 ft / 140.00 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: 3.15" / 80 mm 164.04 ft / 50.00 m 9.45 ft / 2.88 m
26.25 ft / 8.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 4.72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 96 000 shp / 71 616 Kw = 32.04 kts
Range 7 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 042 tons
Complement:
630 - 820
Cost:
£2.977 million / $11.909 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 422 tons, 3.1 %
Armour: 2 285 tons, 16.8 %
- Belts: 1 159 tons, 8.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 374 tons, 2.7 %
- Armour Deck: 694 tons, 5.1 %
- Conning Tower: 58 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 3 463 tons, 25.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 529 tons, 40.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 637 tons, 12.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2.2 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
12 643 lbs / 5 735 Kg = 32.5 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.54
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.17
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.420
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.66 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (22 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Stern: 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Average freeboard: 19.24 ft / 5.87 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 123.6 %
Waterplane Area: 27 238 Square feet or 2 531 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 125 lbs/sq ft or 609 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.44
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
I really like the BB - handsome ship. When I see the profile - I always think she's good for 28 knots - she looks that fast - but i guess that would cost a lot more ..
The AC is very interesting - packs quite a punch and fast - same speed and firepower as the Wheelers - although less armour and range
Do you have parrticular role(s) in mind? She has a lot of TT but not really long range for raiding
I do have a few comments/quibbles:
Quad 9.2 - is it beamy enough to fit well?
Quads make very vulnerable to 1 bad hit - 323 is nearest alternative
Armour protection seems to be good vs. 8" opponents only - not so good vs. anything bigger and Deck seems a bit on the thin side
Still a handy ship though - yoiu making a pic :)
Quote...Quad 9.2 - is it beamy enough to fit well?
Quads make very vulnerable to 1 bad hit - 323 is nearest alternative
...
Quads are inheritance from NUS story...
That's just a test with "What is it possible to built" with 2T4x234 at 30kts.
So, no drawing ;D
Drawings are reserved for Ship in Armada :D
Jef
Wheeler's twin barbettes are 7.2 meters in outside diameter. This is probably a bit oversized. the guns are around .25 meters apart at the barrel.
So I think a quad 9.2" gun mount could be done with a barbette that is a meter bigger, maybe 1.5 meters. So let's just say 9 meters. That ought to leave 10 or 11 meters between barbette and side of ship, which with no TDS is enough.
Now how well a the magazines will fit, how close they'd be to the waterline, etc. would require more work, but I think it's doable.
i think the fit might be tighter than that
Barbettes - if twin is 7.2 i'd guess a quad fair bit bigger - 11m?
Given quite fine BC = 0.42 - Beam at position of forward turret - 16-17m rather than 20m
- that's a bit tight isn't it?
I have choose Panzerschiff beam for reference ( ;D)
20.3m for T3x280
That's certainly enough for T4x234
This study is not a Wheeler beater, just a test for the T4x234 at 32kts.
hmmm....12000t vs 16000t mean nearly no chance for this AC.
Jef
I'd probably need to draw it out...
First: the Quad 14" turrets on KGV had a diameter of 40 feet, or a little over 12 meters. The triple 14" barbette on the US standards was only 29 or 30 feet, or 8.8 or 9 meters.
So I think a quad 9.2" might not to be so big as 11 meters. The 9.2" guns need not be quite so far apart, nor are they as big (of course).
If we go by the main belt length, that's 70% of total length. So yeah, the hull is going to pretty narrow forward and aft along the guns. Maybe as narrow as 10 meters.
I still think it might be doable, but it would come down to the details.
Quote...you making a pic ...
I have not made drawing with Argentina look.
- They like much & massive funnels.
- They use tripod mast, that mean just one top observation place,
- Casemates in the hull, (exposed to heavy sea...)
- They use massive hull with good protection but with relatively light armament.
Jef
Better chance vs Wheeler
3T2x275-A-X-Y, NUS AC from Panzerschiff Study 23 laid down 1920
Displacement:
12 000 t light; 12 552 t standard; 14 365 t normal; 15 815 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
649.61 ft / 649.61 ft x 72.18 ft x 23.83 ft (normal load)
198.00 m / 198.00 m x 22.00 m x 7.26 m
Armament:
6 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (3x2 guns), 634.55lbs / 287.83kg shells, 1920 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1920 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1920 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1920 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 237 lbs / 1 922 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
6 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 419.95 ft / 128.00 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: 3.15" / 80 mm 209.97 ft / 64.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
19.69 ft / 6.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.09" / 180 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 4.72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 29.80 kts
Range 12 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 263 tons
Complement:
655 - 852
Cost:
£2.924 million / $11.695 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 530 tons, 3.7 %
Armour: 2 891 tons, 20.1 %
- Belts: 1 339 tons, 9.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 605 tons, 4.2 %
- Armour Deck: 871 tons, 6.1 %
- Conning Tower: 75 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 18.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 622 tons, 39.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 365 tons, 16.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15 194 lbs / 6 892 Kg = 23.9 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 15.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.450
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.87 ft / 8.80 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 26.90 ft / 8.20 m
- Mid (0 %): 24.41 ft / 7.44 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.77 ft / 5.11 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.5 %
Waterplane Area: 29 908 Square feet or 2 779 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 127 lbs/sq ft or 620 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.08
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Very nice
- just wondering if making it to a round 30 knots is better for wargaming purposes
- and how many extra tons required for an 8 gun 323 - that would pack a nice wallop :)
Yes, but with armour even a Knoxville can penetrate.
Quote from: TexanCowboy on December 11, 2009, 06:35:40 AM
Yes, but with armour even a Knoxville can penetrate.
Yes, if she survives long enough to get her 7.5s in range against the 10.8s. 0.70kts isn't much speed diff either..so a long time to close that range.
Quote...and how many extra tons required for an 8 gun 323 - that would pack a nice wallop
4T2x275 - probably 14.000 to 15.000T - a kind of pocket Derfflinger...
I like ;)
Jef
For the fun... :D
BB, NUS 16x400-22kts laid down 1921 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
45 000 t light; 47 884 t standard; 49 640 t normal; 51 045 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
721.78 ft / 721.78 ft x 118.11 ft x 32.56 ft (normal load)
220.00 m / 220.00 m x 36.00 m x 9.92 m
Armament:
16 - 15.75" / 400 mm guns (4x4 guns), 2 000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (8x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, evenly spread
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1921 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 33 744 lbs / 15 306 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.4" / 340 mm 469.16 ft / 143.00 m 16.01 ft / 4.88 m
Ends: 5.98" / 152 mm 229.66 ft / 70.00 m 9.45 ft / 2.88 m
22.97 ft / 7.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.98" / 152 mm 469.16 ft / 143.00 m 9.45 ft / 2.88 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.77" / 45 mm 469.16 ft / 143.00 m 32.15 ft / 9.80 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.4" / 340 mm 5.98" / 152 mm 13.4" / 340 mm
2nd: 4.72" / 120 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 4.72" / 120 mm, Conning tower: 13.39" / 340 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 55 732 shp / 41 576 Kw = 22.11 kts
Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 162 tons
Complement:
1 662 - 2 161
Cost:
£13.520 million / $54.081 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 124 tons, 8.3 %
Armour: 17 607 tons, 35.5 %
- Belts: 6 082 tons, 12.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 989 tons, 2.0 %
- Armament: 4 564 tons, 9.2 %
- Armour Deck: 5 583 tons, 11.2 %
- Conning Tower: 390 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 1 949 tons, 3.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 20 920 tons, 42.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 641 tons, 9.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 0.8 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
57 097 lbs / 25 899 Kg = 29.2 x 15.7 " / 400 mm shells or 9.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
Metacentric height 6.8 ft / 2.1 m
Roll period: 19.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.88
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.25
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.626
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.11 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.31 ft / 6.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Stern: 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Average freeboard: 20.49 ft / 6.25 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.1 %
Waterplane Area: 63 878 Square feet or 5 934 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 251 lbs/sq ft or 1 225 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.39
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
I suggest working on the stability ...
Borys
OH MY GOD!! IT'S A QUAD QUAD!!!
Initiate "Brave Sir Robin" maneuver.
QuoteInitiate "Brave Sir Robin" maneuver.
We should not forget to play the song that accompanies that maneuver. ;D
Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!
skips the retreating and opens Fire, while screaming "DIE MOTHAFUCKA DIE"
Should it not be "Burn" instead of "Die"? :D
Quote from: Walter on December 15, 2009, 05:35:24 PM
Should it not be "Burn" instead of "Die"? :D
That is highly Dependant... Personaly I dont yell Burn when im laying down fire, but unto each his own. For that matter I have a guy in my Platoon that says Ava Marias when he is shooting, so I supose Burn wouldnt be totaly out there.
Back to the quad 9.2"s. I run a reality check on it a year ago or so and rejected the idea.
Reality check: pre-192? bulky engines will need a lot of engine space (as in 110%+ "normal length"). This pushes the quad at the extreme length. Now fast cruisers tend to be long and have really fine BC. Add the flare of the hull fore. While a 9.2" quad would have ~9m barbette diameter and fit by a simple drawing, there won't be any space left below the deck for all the width, or adequate longitudinal strengthening due to the 9m hole in 3-4 decks. Actually, I think 30kts and triple 9"s or twin 11"s would realistically need like ~15000t+ light just to have the beam fore to fit the turrets (unless tincan armor like on the Panzershiffe is acceptable)
Weight savings are not that big either going quad.
I considered a ~45000t+ 4T4x16" 23kts design, but decided it is better to have two 2T4x16"s ready two years earlier even if their armor is a bit thinner (but still adequate). Not to mention the availability of drydocks and slipways.
Quote...I considered a ~45000t+ 4T4x16" 23kts design, but decided it is better to have two 2T4x16"s ready two years earlier even if their armor is a bit thinner (but still adequate)...
2 BBs with 4T2x16" ...They are certainly not 22.500t (45.000t /2)
but over 30.000t.
60.000t in all or 16x16"
Jef
They can certainly be squeezed into 22,500t.
http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=4146.msg46187#msg46187
NUS need modern & fast cruisers.
After the rebuilt of the Antofagasta class BB, Callao Shipyards could built cruisers I have tested a 1919 Ajax for NUS
NUS Ajax, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
7 600 t light; 7 890 t standard; 8 691 t normal; 9 333 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 56.33 ft x 23.22 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.17 m x 7.08 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all amidships
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 294 lbs / 587 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 419.95 ft / 128.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
13.12 ft / 4.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 116 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 1.38" / 35 mm 2.36" / 60 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 31.95 kts
Range 7 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 443 tons
Complement:
449 - 585
Cost:
£1.689 million / $6.754 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 162 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 1 266 tons, 14.6 %
- Belts: 540 tons, 6.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 199 tons, 2.3 %
- Armour Deck: 498 tons, 5.7 %
- Conning Tower: 29 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 30.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 355 tons, 38.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 091 tons, 12.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 1.8 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7 385 lbs / 3 350 Kg = 68.4 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.417
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.90 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Stern: 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Average freeboard: 18.93 ft / 5.77 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.8 %
Waterplane Area: 19 547 Square feet or 1 816 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 99 lbs/sq ft or 483 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.66
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Turret's and Barbette's on 6'' are not allowed until 1922 at the earliest with ships under 7''. Until then, use the mount and hoist setting. Not enclosed, but best you can do with your current tech.
I don't see a problem, the AC/BC rules do not have a lower size limit on main guns. (Grandfathered, the French Ville Class used 6.5" main guns in failed mount and hoist setups)
The only "limitation" is that secundaries bigger than 8" are seen as " smaller main guns".
Only disadvantage is the 250 tons FC for AC/BC/BB's.
Reworking NUS Ajax with mounts & hoist is economical.
Displacement decrease from 7600 to 7400t & speed increase to realy 32kts.
NUSN, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
7 400 t light; 7 686 t standard; 8 475 t normal; 9 107 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 55.77 ft x 22.87 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.00 m x 6.97 m
Armament:
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 294 lbs / 587 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.15" / 80 mm 433.07 ft / 132.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 124.67 ft / 38.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm - -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 32.08 kts
Range 7 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 421 tons
Complement:
441 - 574
Cost:
£1.673 million / $6.693 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 162 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 1 128 tons, 13.3 %
- Belts: 553 tons, 6.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 54 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 493 tons, 5.8 %
- Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 2 657 tons, 31.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 273 tons, 38.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 075 tons, 12.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 180 tons, 2.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7 034 lbs / 3 191 Kg = 65.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.47
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.19
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.417
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 20.67 ft / 6.30 m
- Mid (50 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 17.39 ft / 5.30 m
- Stern: 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Average freeboard: 18.82 ft / 5.73 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 118.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.7 %
Waterplane Area: 19 354 Square feet or 1 798 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs/sq ft or 476 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.70
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
An other Cruiser study, a kind of light Panzerschiff.
This class could be laid down in 1922.
NUSN, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1922 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
8 600 t light; 9 027 t standard; 9 886 t normal; 10 574 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 61.94 ft x 23.62 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 18.88 m x 7.20 m
Armament:
6 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (2x3 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1922 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1922 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1922 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1922 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 657 lbs / 1 205 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 374.02 ft / 114.00 m 8.99 ft / 2.74 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 157.48 ft / 48.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
26.25 ft / 8.00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.51" / 140 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 4.72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 64 000 shp / 47 744 Kw = 29.90 kts
Range 7 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 547 tons
Complement:
495 - 644
Cost:
£2.436 million / $9.745 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 332 tons, 3.4 %
Armour: 1 708 tons, 17.3 %
- Belts: 734 tons, 7.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 298 tons, 3.0 %
- Armour Deck: 629 tons, 6.4 %
- Conning Tower: 47 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2 238 tons, 22.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 026 tons, 40.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 286 tons, 13.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 296 tons, 3.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10 064 lbs / 4 565 Kg = 27.1 x 9.1 " / 230 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.424
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.62 ft / 7.20 m
- Forecastle (19 %): 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.92 ft / 5.46 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.2 %
Waterplane Area: 21 599 Square feet or 2 007 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 560 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.67
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
No hoist armor on the Ajax? One good shot from anything bigger than 23cm and it's probably gonna find one of the mags for either the 15cm or 12cm guns and *poof* no more CL.
Coastal or colonial BB
Note that this ship could cross Atlantic & work near Kongo or Iberia coast
19750t, NUS Coastal BB laid down 1922 (Engine 1920)
Displacement:
19 750 t light; 21 040 t standard; 21 896 t normal; 22 581 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 96.13 ft x 24.86 ft (normal load)
170.00 m / 170.00 m x 29.30 m x 7.58 m
Armament:
6 - 15.75" / 400 mm guns (2x3 guns), 2 000.00lbs / 907.18kg shells, 1922 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (6x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1922 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1922 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 12 641 lbs / 5 734 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.6" / 320 mm 341.21 ft / 104.00 m 12.01 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 3.15" / 80 mm 190.29 ft / 58.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
26.25 ft / 8.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3.15" / 80 mm 341.21 ft / 104.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.77" / 45 mm 341.21 ft / 104.00 m 24.44 ft / 7.45 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.4" / 340 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3.54" / 90 mm, Conning tower: 12.60" / 320 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 36 113 shp / 26 940 Kw = 22.13 kts
Range 4 000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 542 tons
Complement:
899 - 1 170
Cost:
£5.906 million / $23.624 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 545 tons, 7.1 %
Armour: 7 507 tons, 34.3 %
- Belts: 2 919 tons, 13.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 547 tons, 2.5 %
- Armament: 1 317 tons, 6.0 %
- Armour Deck: 2 511 tons, 11.5 %
- Conning Tower: 212 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 1 263 tons, 5.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 066 tons, 41.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 146 tons, 9.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 370 tons, 1.7 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
27 609 lbs / 12 523 Kg = 14.1 x 15.7 " / 400 mm shells or 5.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 6.0 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.17
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.575
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.80 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.31 ft / 6.80 m
- Forecastle (21 %): 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Mid (30 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Stern: 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Average freeboard: 16.26 ft / 4.96 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.5 %
Waterplane Area: 38 306 Square feet or 3 559 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 183 lbs/sq ft or 895 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.50
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
I like it. It is a effecient design on a ship of 20,000 tons, and has the punch to make it hurt.