Glorious French cruisers

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Hmm - the KuKK might look into dreadnaught gunned armoured cruisers ...

Borys

[Ithekro]

Very Anahuac...or French.

[maddox]

The fastest cruiser designed by the Chantiers St Nazaire. Based on the Demarce hull.

Demarce batch II, France protected cruiser laid down 1910

Displacement:
   4.993 t light; 5.198 t standard; 6.420 t normal; 7.398 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   493,13 ft / 492,13 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,37 ft (normal load)
   150,30 m / 150,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,60 m

Armament:
      4 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns in single mounts, 143,30lbs / 65,00kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1910 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1910 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 848 lbs / 385 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 20,0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   330,00 ft / 100,58 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 103% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 35.028 shp / 26.131 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 6.600nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2.199 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   358 - 466

Cost:
   £0,482 million / $1,927 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 103 tons, 1,6%
   Armour: 1.016 tons, 15,8%
      - Belts: 492 tons, 7,7%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 52 tons, 0,8%
      - Armour Deck: 450 tons, 7,0%
      - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 1.576 tons, 24,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.198 tons, 34,2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.427 tons, 22,2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.827 lbs / 3.550 Kg = 57,1 x 6,5 " / 165 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30
   Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 12,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,42

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,505
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,03 ft / 5,19 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141,5%
   Waterplane Area: 16.210 Square feet or 1.506 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 393 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,48
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Borys]

Ahj!
Uniform battery of 8-9 5,5 inchers better.

Borys

[maddox]

This better?

Demarce batch II, France protected cruiser laid down 1910

Displacement:
   5.003 t light; 5.210 t standard; 6.433 t normal; 7.412 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   493,13 ft / 492,13 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,37 ft (normal load)
   150,30 m / 150,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,60 m

Armament:
      4 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns in single mounts, 150,00lbs / 68,04kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 40,00lbs / 18,14kg shells, 1910 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      6 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 12,00lbs / 5,44kg shells, 1910 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 912 lbs / 414 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 140
   4 - 20,0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   330,00 ft / 100,58 m   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 103% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 35.085 shp / 26.173 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 6.600nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2.202 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   358 - 466

Cost:
   £0,483 million / $1,930 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 103 tons, 1,6%
   Armour: 1.017 tons, 15,8%
      - Belts: 492 tons, 7,7%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 52 tons, 0,8%
      - Armour Deck: 450 tons, 7,0%
      - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 1.579 tons, 24,5%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.205 tons, 34,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.430 tons, 22,2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.811 lbs / 3.543 Kg = 57,0 x 6,5 " / 165 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30
   Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 12,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,42

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,506
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,03 ft / 5,19 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141,6%
   Waterplane Area: 16.225 Square feet or 1.507 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 81 lbs/sq ft or 394 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,48
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Tanthalas]

I like it.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Yes.
Borys

[maddox]

Demarce III, France protected cruiser laid down 1912

Displacement:
   4.939 t light; 5.173 t standard; 6.087 t normal; 6.819 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   483,27 ft / 482,28 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,70 ft (normal load)
   147,30 m / 147,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,70 m

Armament:
      5 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns in single mounts, 143,30lbs / 65,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 39,68lbs / 18,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      3 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns (2 mounts), 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1.067 lbs / 484 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 175
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   360,00 ft / 109,73 m   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 5,00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 33.886 shp / 25.279 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.646 tons

Complement:
   343 - 447

Cost:
   £0,467 million / $1,868 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 125 tons, 2,1%
   Armour: 1.146 tons, 18,8%
      - Belts: 617 tons, 10,1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 62 tons, 1,0%
      - Armour Deck: 431 tons, 7,1%
      - Conning Tower: 36 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 1.351 tons, 22,2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.147 tons, 35,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.148 tons, 18,9%
   Miscellaneous weights: 170 tons, 2,8%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.441 lbs / 3.375 Kg = 54,3 x 6,5 " / 165 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16
   Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,55
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,480
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,96 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,98 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Stern:      14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Average freeboard:   15,65 ft / 4,77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,9%
   Waterplane Area: 15.532 Square feet or 1.443 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 409 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,41
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Accepting the fact that oil firing is the future, these ships are the first large combatants fitted with 100% oil firing.
By not increasing speed or armament , more space was freed to modernise the weapon lay out and gain room for modern seawarefare tools.


The adaptation of the twin torpedo mounts from Italia, the diminishing of tertiary guns, and the relocation of the secundary guns to superfiring, gives this 3th incarnation of the Demarce a more heavy punch. 

The dedication of 50 tons to Crew comfort makes this vessel ready for deployment in every weatherzone on earth, except the artic ice.
35 tons is dedicated to the new torpedo tubes and reloads for  these big weapons.

85 tons is set aside to mount modern seawarefare tools.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Nice. Good belt, fast enough, .good fire platform and seaboat - what's not to like?
Well, I do not like the main guns, naturally course :)
I'd put 7-8 14cm guns on her.

Borys

[maddox]

No "not enough deckspace" comment Borys, that's a surprise.   :)

But the 140 mm QF guns are an option.


Demarce III, France protected cruiser laid down 1912

Displacement:
   4.996 t light; 5.221 t standard; 6.141 t normal; 6.876 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   483,27 ft / 482,28 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,86 ft (normal load)
   147,30 m / 147,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,75 m

Armament:
      8 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (4x2 guns), 99,21lbs / 45,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 39,68lbs / 18,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      3 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns (2 mounts), 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1.144 lbs / 519 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   360,00 ft / 109,73 m   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 5,00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 34.070 shp / 25.416 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 7.500nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.654 tons

Complement:
   346 - 450

Cost:
   £0,468 million / $1,873 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 123 tons, 2,0%
   Armour: 1.159 tons, 18,9%
      - Belts: 617 tons, 10,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 75 tons, 1,2%
      - Armour Deck: 431 tons, 7,0%
      - Conning Tower: 36 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 1.358 tons, 22,1%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.185 tons, 35,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.145 tons, 18,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 170 tons, 2,8%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.514 lbs / 3.408 Kg = 89,7 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,480
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,96 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,98 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Stern:      14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Average freeboard:   15,65 ft / 4,77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,1%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,0%
   Waterplane Area: 15.532 Square feet or 1.443 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 85 lbs/sq ft or 416 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,43
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Accepting the fact that oil firing is the future, these ships are the first large combatants fitted with 100% oil firing.
By not increasing speed or armament , more space was freed to modernise the weapon lay out and gain room for modern seawarefare tools.


The adaptation of the twin torpedo mounts from Italia, the diminishing of tertiary guns, and the relocation of the secundary guns to superfiring, gives this 3th incarnation of the Demarce a more heavy punch. 

The dedication of 50 tons to Crew comfort makes this vessel ready for deployment in every weatherzone on earth, except the artic ice.
35 tons is dedicated to the new torpedo tubes and reloads for  these big weapons.

85 tons is set aside to mount modern seawarefare tools.

[Borys]

No "not enough deckspace" comment Borys, that's a surprise.   :)

I'm over forty, and sometimes forgetfull ... I really must put NEDS into my sig ... :)
Of course, there is not enough space on the centerline for 8 guns, unless you don't mind a single hit demolishing 3 or 4 guns of the various calibres.

16 guns, on a 147 metres long hull (for now overlloking the well ventilated bow area, where to load a broadside shot you fall overboard) - that's one gun per 9 metres - with the 14cm guns being 8 metres long, and the 105mm ones 4,5 - the gunners can barely swing them about, you know ...
:D

Deleting all the 105mm guns of course and making the 14cm guns "on sides - spread" should make the vessel plausible.

Hmm, the "on sides, all raised" 105mm guns are also an interesting feature of the design - such guns need a circle of some 5-6 metres (breech is 2,5m from trunion, the round is c.1m long, plus needs some space to swing it about) to be worked - on a hull which is 15m broad in the widest point and with a Block coefficient of 0,480 ...

ADDED LATER:
OK - you can trunion the gun closer to the breech - but IMO a 3 metres working area behind the gun is still requeried.

Borys

[maddox]

How about this then?

Demarce III, France protected cruiser laid down 1912

Displacement:
   5.006 t light; 5.207 t standard; 6.131 t normal; 6.870 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   483,27 ft / 482,28 ft x 49,21 ft x 18,84 ft (normal load)
   147,30 m / 147,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,74 m

Armament:
      8 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns (4x2 guns), 143,30lbs / 65,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1.168 lbs / 530 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   360,00 ft / 109,73 m   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      2,00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 5,00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 34.037 shp / 25.392 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 7.550nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.663 tons

Complement:
   346 - 450

Cost:
   £0,483 million / $1,930 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 140 tons, 2,3%
   Armour: 1.143 tons, 18,6%
      - Belts: 617 tons, 10,1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 59 tons, 1,0%
      - Armour Deck: 431 tons, 7,0%
      - Conning Tower: 36 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 1.357 tons, 22,1%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.201 tons, 35,9%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.125 tons, 18,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 165 tons, 2,7%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.407 lbs / 3.360 Kg = 54,0 x 6,5 " / 165 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16
   Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,480
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,96 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,98 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Stern:      14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Average freeboard:   15,65 ft / 4,77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,5%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,0%
   Waterplane Area: 15.532 Square feet or 1.443 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 86 lbs/sq ft or 419 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,45
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Accepting the fact that oil firing is the future, these ships are the first large combatants fitted with 100% oil firing.
By not increasing speed or armament , more space was freed to modernise the weapon lay out and gain room for modern seawarefare tools.


The adaptation of the twin torpedo mounts from Italia, the diminishing of tertiary guns, and the relocation of the secundary guns to superfiring, gives this 3th incarnation of the Demarce a more heavy punch. 

The dedication of 50 tons to Crew comfort makes this vessel ready for deployment in every weatherzone on earth, except the artic ice.
35 tons is dedicated to the new torpedo tubes and reloads for  these big weapons.

75 tons is set aside to mount modern seawarefare tools.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Good.
Counts as AC, doesn't it?
Borys

[maddox]

A very small AC then.

But she has most I desire in a ship this size. Pity I couldn't cram her into a 120m length ship.

[Borys]

Pity I couldn't cram her into a 120m length ship.

Guess why I'm expanding my Type 1 slips ...
:)
Bory