Alright...let's see if I have this right:

Started by The Rock Doctor, March 12, 2007, 08:56:49 PM

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The Rock Doctor

Notes: 

Engine tech is 1902 (year = 1905, 4000 kw/shaft turbines)
Gun tech is baseline; going with 12"
Armore tech is baseline. 

EL Semidreadnought, laid down 1906 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   16,148 t light; 17,134 t standard; 19,040 t normal; 20,564 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 82.02 ft x 24.28 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 170.00 m x 25.00 m  x 7.40 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 865.70lbs / 392.68kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      16 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      3 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 6,907 lbs / 3,133 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   10.86 ft / 3.31 m
   Ends:   4.33" / 110 mm   229.63 ft / 69.99 m   10.86 ft / 3.31 m
   Upper:   6.50" / 165 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length

(Divided by 1.10, belt thickness:  300 mm main, 100 ends, 150 upper)

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   6.50" / 165 mm      13.0" / 330 mm
   2nd:   6.50" / 165 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.30" / 33 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.30" / 33 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.87" / 22 mm         -               -

(Equialent for main turrets:  300/150/300, secondaries 150 mm, 30mm 3rd/4th battery, 20 mm fifth)

   - Armour deck: 2.36" / 60 mm, Conning tower: 12.99" / 330 mm

(Equivalent of 50 mm deck, 300 mm CT

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 21,447 shp / 16,000 Kw = 19.78 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 3,430 tons)

Complement:
   809 - 1,053

Cost:
   £1.541 million / $6.163 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 863 tons, 4.5 %
   Armour: 6,692 tons, 35.1 %
      - Belts: 3,215 tons, 16.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,815 tons, 9.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,462 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 200 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,787 tons, 9.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,706 tons, 35.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,891 tons, 15.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     31,357 lbs / 14,223 Kg = 36.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.70

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Stern:      19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.21 ft / 6.16 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 66.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 33,458 Square feet or 3,108 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 689 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.55
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather


P3D

Could you use inches for new ships, just to be consistent with "Seas of War"?
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

maddox

I don't have any problems thinking in Inches.

But I still prefer mm

Earl822

It is relatively simple to convert inches to Millimeters in most cases.

Borys

Ahoj!
It is a question of mindset. I can think in inches as concerns armour or gun calibre, but whether a 200 foot vessel is a lifeboat or a battleship I don't know - I have to recalculate into meters first.
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

The Rock Doctor

P3D:  I don't follow you - the report presents both sets of measurements.

I see I've made a mistake:  it's 4000 HP, not 4000 KW, per shaft.  So that'll cost me around a quarter of the powerplant.  I wonder if the reduced machinery weight will let me reduce the hull size and thus keep speed from dropping too much...

The Rock Doctor

This is probably quite close to the battleship Gran Colombia will actually lay down in 1906 - since battleships are needed and this is as "cutting edge" as Gran Colombia can currently get. 

-the three deck-mounted 10 cm guns were meant to be an anti-airship station, but Springsharp strongly objected to my characterizing it that way.  If the EK is winked out of existence here, and there are no significant airship forces to concern myself with, I'll probably omit thise.

-Thoughts on the design in general?  I'm wondering if I need that much deck armor for the time.  Will have to poke around Jane's tonight.

maddox

the 200 foot ship is a TB. 66 meters, roughly.

200 feet is 2400 inch.

P3D

The design looks nice. The deck armor was usually distributed between seveal decks - the Tegethoffs had ~75-80mm of deck armor this way.

My comment was about having whole inch values (e.g. 304.8mm armor instead of 300mm), but only for the armor. The rest really does not matter.
But...sigh...I can live with 300mm instead of 305mm - a 2% difference in armor weight, that is.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas