Byzantine Empire 1933-34

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Jefgte

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Fleet Tender, Byzantine Empire 8000t Fleet Tender laid down 1934

Displacement:
    8 000 t light; 8 221 t standard; 8 953 t normal; 9 539 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (470,97 ft / 465,88 ft) x 72,18 ft x (15,53 / 16,36 ft)
    (143,55 m / 142,00 m) x 22,00 m  x (4,73 / 4,99 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 320 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 149 lbs / 67 kg

Armour:
  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    2nd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 10 274 shp / 7 664 Kw = 18,00 kts
    Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 1 318 tons

Complement:
    459 - 598

Cost:
    £1,614 million / $6,455 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 29 tons, 0,3 %
      - Guns: 29 tons, 0,3 %
    Armour: 5 tons, 0,1 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0,1 %
    Machinery: 296 tons, 3,3 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 511 tons, 28,0 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 954 tons, 10,7 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 5 160 tons, 57,6 %
      - Hull below water: 2 910 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 150 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      17 156 lbs / 7 782 Kg = 529,8 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,67
    Metacentric height 7,2 ft / 2,2 m
    Roll period: 11,3 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,73

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has raised forecastle,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,607
    Length to Beam Ratio: 6,45 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 21,58 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    20,00 %,  23,95 ft / 7,30 m,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m
      - Forward deck:    30,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Aft deck:    30,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Quarter deck:    20,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Average freeboard:        16,27 ft / 4,96 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73,4 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,0 %
    Waterplane Area: 24 594 Square feet or 2 285 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 154 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 383 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,98
        - Longitudinal: 1,12
        - Overall: 1,00
    Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight; 5160t
OD
25t for 4 cranes
50t for different store
AW
1900t of oil
200t for amunitions, food & different materials
BW
2500t of oil
410t for amunitions, foods & different materials
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

Oiler or Tender?
The 50+200+410 = 650t "Resupply" or "Fleet Supply"
As that just supports a cruiser (6500t)

But is the 1900+2500 = 4400t "of oil" also meant as "resupply" ?
Or a means of refueling the fleet when the standard supply train may not be sufficient ?
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

"squadron supply ship" with fuel, food, ammunition and various materials.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Squadron Supply Ship, Byzantine Empire 10000t Supply Ship laid down 1934

Displacement:
   10 000 t light; 10 265 t standard; 11 101 t normal; 11 770 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (490,66 ft / 485,56 ft) x 75,46 ft x (16,94 / 17,79 ft)
   (149,55 m / 148,00 m) x 23,00 m  x (5,16 / 5,42 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 320 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 149 lbs / 67 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 11 661 shp / 8 699 Kw = 18,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 505 tons

Complement:
   539 - 702

Cost:
   £1,985 million / $7,939 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 29 tons, 0,3 %
      - Guns: 29 tons, 0,3 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 335 tons, 3,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 931 tons, 26,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 101 tons, 9,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6 700 tons, 60,4 %
      - Hull below water: 4 000 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 550 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 150 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19 804 lbs / 8 983 Kg = 611,6 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,71
   Metacentric height 8,0 ft / 2,4 m
   Roll period: 11,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,71

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,632
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  23,95 ft / 7,30 m,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Average freeboard:      16,27 ft / 4,96 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 27 454 Square feet or 2 551 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 403 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,06
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight; 6700t
OD
25t for 4 cranes
50t for different store
AW
2350t of oil
200t for amunitions, food & different materials
BW
3500t of oil
500t for amunitions, foods & different materials
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Byzantium is satisfied with its 8000t cruisers and continues the series.
Same armament, same armor.
Speed increases to 31kts and minor adjustments.

Patuh - Prukho, Byzantine Empire C15 laid down 1934

Displacement:
    8 000 t light; 8 574 t standard; 9 533 t normal; 10 300 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (574,10 ft / 570,87 ft) x 63,06 ft x (19,23 / 20,37 ft)
    (174,98 m / 174,00 m) x 19,22 m  x (5,86 / 6,21 m)

Armament:
      12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
      Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
      6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
        2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
      6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts - superfiring
      Weight of broadside 3 129 lbs / 1 419 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    3,94" / 100 mm    382,48 ft / 116,58 m    9,51 ft / 2,90 m
    Ends:    1,38" / 35 mm    188,35 ft / 57,41 m    9,51 ft / 2,90 m
      Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    4,72" / 120 mm    0,98" / 25 mm        1,97" / 50 mm
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    5th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Protected deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
    Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 73 552 shp / 54 870 Kw = 31,00 kts
    Range 13 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 1 726 tons

Complement:
    482 - 627

Cost:
    £4,282 million / $17,130 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 840 tons, 8,8 %
      - Guns: 840 tons, 8,8 %
    Armour: 1 594 tons, 16,7 %
      - Belts: 681 tons, 7,1 %
      - Armament: 114 tons, 1,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 734 tons, 7,7 %
      - Conning Towers: 65 tons, 0,7 %
    Machinery: 2 116 tons, 22,2 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 176 tons, 33,3 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 533 tons, 16,1 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 274 tons, 2,9 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 105 tons
      - Above deck: 129 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      9 382 lbs / 4 256 Kg = 44,1 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
    Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,9 m
    Roll period: 15,9 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,80
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,05

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,482 / 0,492
    Length to Beam Ratio: 9,05 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    17,00 %,  26,31 ft / 8,02 m,  20,73 ft / 6,32 m
      - Forward deck:    33,75 %,  20,73 ft / 6,32 m,  17,13 ft / 5,22 m
      - Aft deck:    33,25 %,  17,13 ft / 5,22 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    16,00 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        18,49 ft / 5,64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,9 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 166,5 %
    Waterplane Area: 23 599 Square feet or 2 192 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 496 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,86
        - Longitudinal: 1,24
        - Overall: 0,90
    Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
84t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
20t for nightfighting
25t for 1 seaplane + cata
28t reserved for new materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#50
4 x 4650t Armored Gun Boats were scrapped in 1933H2.
In parallel with the 8000t cruisers, Byzantium built 4100t AGBs to protect the "big ones" from DDs and aircraft.
They are also capable of working in addition to the 8000t.
3T2 x 152/50 (HMS Ajax guns) were preferred to 4T1x191/45 for the volume of fire.

Fleet Cruiser, Byzantine Empire C18 - AGB4100 laid down 1934

Displacement:
    4 100 t light; 4 345 t standard; 4 838 t normal; 5 233 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (491,62 ft / 485,56 ft) x 52,49 ft x (13,73 / 14,55 ft)
    (149,85 m / 148,00 m) x 16,00 m  x (4,18 / 4,44 m)

Armament:
      6 - 5,98" / 152 mm 50,0 cal guns - 111,99lbs / 50,80kg shells, 180 per gun
      Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1934 Model
      3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
        1 raised mount - superfiring
      8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      4 x 4-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 969 lbs / 439 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    2,95" / 75 mm    336,48 ft / 102,56 m    8,69 ft / 2,65 m
    Ends:    0,98" / 25 mm    149,05 ft / 45,43 m    8,69 ft / 2,65 m
      Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    2,95" / 75 mm    1,18" / 30 mm        1,57" / 40 mm
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
    Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 2,76" / 70 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 45 400 shp / 33 868 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 888 tons

Complement:
    289 - 377

Cost:
    £2,024 million / $8,096 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 258 tons, 5,3 %
      - Guns: 258 tons, 5,3 %
    Armour: 883 tons, 18,3 %
      - Belts: 400 tons, 8,3 %
      - Armament: 46 tons, 1,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 413 tons, 8,5 %
      - Conning Towers: 24 tons, 0,5 %
    Machinery: 1 306 tons, 27,0 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 460 tons, 30,2 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 738 tons, 15,3 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 193 tons, 4,0 %
      - Hull below water: 20 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 102 tons
      - Above deck: 71 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      4 420 lbs / 2 005 Kg = 41,3 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
    Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m
    Roll period: 14,3 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,484 / 0,494
    Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 22,04 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    15,85 %,  24,28 ft / 7,40 m,  18,70 ft / 5,70 m
      - Forward deck:    34,65 %,  18,70 ft / 5,70 m,  15,75 ft / 4,80 m
      - Aft deck:    34,65 %,  15,75 ft / 4,80 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Quarter deck:    14,85 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,42 ft / 4,70 m
      - Average freeboard:        16,89 ft / 5,15 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106,4 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180,1 %
    Waterplane Area: 16 740 Square feet or 1 555 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 311 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,72
        - Longitudinal: 1,03
        - Overall: 0,75
    Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
26t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD-95t
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
10t for night fighting
14t for Enhanced Hydrophone
6t for 30 x 195kg DC
25t for cata + seaplane
15t reserved for new materials, armaments.
AW
climatisation
BW
20t for additionnal pumps
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf