Vilnius Union Ships, 1920+: Electric Drive Boogaloo

Started by The Rock Doctor, September 29, 2021, 09:44:16 AM

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Jefgte

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

An Aztec-style razee for trade defence and/or battleline scouting.  It might be overkill, of course.

I don't current have a 2-gun 300mm gun, but can change that in time for 1923.


Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1923

Displacement:
   17,916 t light; 18,878 t standard; 20,395 t normal; 21,609 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (727.61 ft / 711.94 ft) x 75.46 ft x (26.57 / 27.76 ft)
   (221.78 m / 217.00 m) x 23.00 m  x (8.10 / 8.46 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.81" / 300 mm 45.0 cal guns - 830.84lbs / 376.86kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model
     3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1923 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      8 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,981 lbs / 2,713 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   462.76 ft / 141.05 m   16.37 ft / 4.99 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 16.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 120,644 shp / 90,001 Kw = 31.86 kts
   Range 16,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,730 tons

Complement:
   853 - 1,109

Cost:
   £5.071 million / $20.284 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,347 tons, 6.6 %
      - Guns: 1,347 tons, 6.6 %
   Armour: 4,817 tons, 23.6 %
      - Belts: 1,846 tons, 9.0 %
      - Armament: 964 tons, 4.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,912 tons, 9.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 95 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 4,032 tons, 19.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,280 tons, 35.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,479 tons, 12.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 440 tons, 2.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 140 tons
      - Above deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     23,479 lbs / 10,650 Kg = 28.5 x 11.8 " / 300 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 16.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.72
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  29.53 ft / 9.00 m,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      21.06 ft / 6.42 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 35,794 Square feet or 3,325 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 143 lbs/sq ft or 698 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

TacCovert4

I mean, I like them.

Though I've shifted from 6x11in to 9x9in with the newest class.  I'm banking on the Rate of Fire change helping.  Typically guns 10in and above have a rate of fire dropoff when compared to guns 8-10in. 
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

The Rock Doctor

Options for the next oiler program:

9,000 t light, 18 knots, 6080 t cargo

9,000 t light, 24 knots, 5230 t cargo

15,000 t light, 18 knots, 10500 t cargo

15,000 t light, 24 knots, 9550 t cargo

There is not a huge qualitative difference between the slow variants; the 15,000 t slow oiler is 67% larger and carries 72% more cargo.  Yippy skippy.

The difference shows a big more in the faster variant, where the big ship carries 82% more cargo.  I assume this is a matter of the larger hull being more favorable to the higher speed.

So the question then becomes what do I want out of the oiler.

On the one hand, the small, slow oiler is perfectly suitable for a World Cruise scenario where the Union is operating outside the Atlantic and its chain of bases.  So is the big, slow oiler but there's not a hugely compelling reason to have a big, slow oiler when a small, slow oiler does almost the same job and is less eggs in the basket and has easier drydocking requirements.

On the other hand, the fast variants are better suited to support Union squadrons running blockades around the British Isles.  With UNREP not far away, it's a potentially valuable asset as a means to avoid Roman or Norse fleets that might seek to hem in the Union navy during a war.  In this case, there is some argument for the increased efficiency of the big hull, but also the risk of it being a higher profile and extremely flammable target.

Desertfox

Option 1, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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Jefgte

Is it really necessary to have fast oilers to operate with cruisers ?

=> 9000t-18kts
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

TacCovert4

For Vilnius, I'd say no.  Aztec fast oilers exist primarily because when they were designed, running from Roman task forces was something in the cards. 

I'd say that rather than a high top speed, you want a high cruise speed.  A 14 or even 16kt cruise would allow your oiler to cover a lot of distance from a port with fuel to a fleet at sea.  Top speed is really irrelevant unless you're concerned about the oiler being directly hunted due to not having the ships to escort her.
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

The Rock Doctor

And the medium oiler in question.  As opposed to the recent 3,000 t oiler, this one does not feature an electric drive.  On the other hand, it carries much more oil, both for itself and for its clients.

It's one of the first designs to roll out the new 15mm/90cal machine-gun for local defensive functions, which is exciting.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1923

Displacement:
   8,992 t light; 9,234 t standard; 10,683 t normal; 11,842 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (419.60 ft / 410.11 ft) x 65.62 ft x (25.26 / 27.42 ft)
   (127.89 m / 125.00 m) x 20.00 m  x (7.70 / 8.36 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.62lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mount, 1923 Model
     1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck centre
      2 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck centre
      1 raised mount
      4 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 90.0 cal guns - 0.12lbs / 0.05kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 197 lbs / 89 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 10,724 shp / 8,000 Kw = 17.79 kts
   Range 26,300nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,608 tons

Complement:
   525 - 683

Cost:
   £1.108 million / $4.433 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 48 tons, 0.5 %
      - Guns: 48 tons, 0.5 %
   Armour: 12 tons, 0.1 %
      - Armament: 12 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 358 tons, 3.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,321 tons, 21.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,691 tons, 15.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6,252 tons, 58.5 %
      - Hull below water: 4,000 tons
      - Hull above water: 1,770 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 400 tons
      - Above deck: 82 tons

Fittings:
-5 t:  1918 Fire control (AD)
-25 t:  L/R wireless (AD)
-20 t:  Accommodation for 10 passengers (AD)
-32 t:  Weight reserve/cargo/mail (AD)
-400 t:  Oil handling equipment (FD)
-5,770 t:  Fuel oil (AW/BW)
-

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15,924 lbs / 7,223 Kg = 237.5 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.50
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.562
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  25.92 ft / 7.90 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   45.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.39 ft / 4.69 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,780 Square feet or 1,745 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 150 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 403 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.83
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

10000 nm @ 15 knots




Desertfox

That is one nice looking ship... *quietly saves picture for future reference...*
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The Rock Doctor

Wishful thinking, but something I'd like to see mysteriously arrive in the river back beyond my farm right about now:

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1923

Displacement:
   11 t light; 11 t standard; 11 t normal; 12 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (35.22 ft / 32.81 ft) x 9.84 ft x (1.64 / 1.67 ft)
   (10.74 m / 10.00 m) x 3.00 m  x (0.50 / 0.51 m)

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion generators,
   Electric motors, 1 shaft, 26 shp / 20 Kw = 8.30 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 5.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 tons

Complement:
   3 - 4

Cost:
   £0.001 million / $0.006 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 1 tons, 7.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 tons, 52.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 4.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 4 tons, 35.2 %
      - Hull below water: 1 tons
      - Hull above water: 1 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 1 tons
      - Above deck: 1 tons

Fittings:
-1 t:  Electric drive (BW)
-1 t:  500m extremely heavy duty extension cord, spool, and crane (AW)
-1 t:  Shower (FD)
-1 t:  Wi-fi booster tower (AD)

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     73 lbs / 33 Kg = 0.7 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
   Metacentric height 0.2 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 8.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.750 / 0.752
   Length to Beam Ratio: 3.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 5.73 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 73 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.31 ft / 0.40 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m,  6.23 ft / 1.90 m
      - Average freeboard:      6.23 ft / 1.90 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 45.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 107.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 270 Square feet or 25 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 197 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 10 lbs/sq ft or 47 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.64
      - Longitudinal: 75.20
      - Overall: 1.03
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily


The Rock Doctor

Yay, I can play around in SS again.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1923

Displacement:
   31,219 t light; 32,753 t standard; 34,845 t normal; 36,518 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (770.86 ft / 754.59 ft) x 98.43 ft x (29.86 / 30.99 ft)
   (234.96 m / 230.00 m) x 30.00 m  x (9.10 / 9.44 m)

Armament:
      6 - 15.75" / 400 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,984.16lbs / 900.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model
     3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1923 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 13,171 lbs / 5,974 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   498.69 ft / 152.00 m   16.37 ft / 4.99 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 16.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.97" / 50 mm   490.49 ft / 149.50 m   27.10 ft / 8.26 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 85.30 ft / 26.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.7" / 400 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 3.94" / 100 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 176,944 shp / 132,000 Kw = 32.05 kts
   Range 16,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,765 tons

Complement:
   1,274 - 1,657

Cost:
   £9.117 million / $36.467 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,676 tons, 7.7 %
      - Guns: 2,676 tons, 7.7 %
   Armour: 9,292 tons, 26.7 %
      - Belts: 2,717 tons, 7.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 968 tons, 2.8 %
      - Armament: 1,705 tons, 4.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,721 tons, 10.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 181 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 5,914 tons, 17.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,687 tons, 36.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,626 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 650 tons, 1.9 %
      - Above deck: 650 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     42,063 lbs / 19,079 Kg = 21.5 x 15.7 " / 400 mm shells or 5.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.47 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  31.17 ft / 9.50 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      23.62 ft / 7.20 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 51,833 Square feet or 4,815 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 914 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.39
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

The Rock Doctor

Alternate take on the razee:  Less big guns, more speed.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1923

Displacement:
   17,997 t light; 18,791 t standard; 20,301 t normal; 21,510 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (724.69 ft / 708.66 ft) x 75.46 ft x (26.57 / 27.76 ft)
   (220.88 m / 216.00 m) x 23.00 m  x (8.10 / 8.46 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.02" / 280 mm 45.0 cal guns - 675.51lbs / 306.40kg shells, 110 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model
     3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.62lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
     2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      6 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     6 x Single mounts on side ends, majority aft
      6 raised mounts
      6 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.11lbs / 0.05kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,050 lbs / 2,291 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   460.63 ft / 140.40 m   16.37 ft / 4.99 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 16.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 139,411 shp / 104,000 Kw = 33.04 kts
   Range 16,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,719 tons

Complement:
   849 - 1,105

Cost:
   £5.082 million / $20.329 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,160 tons, 5.7 %
      - Guns: 1,160 tons, 5.7 %
   Armour: 4,571 tons, 22.5 %
      - Belts: 1,838 tons, 9.1 %
      - Armament: 735 tons, 3.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,904 tons, 9.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 95 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 4,659 tons, 23.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,047 tons, 34.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,304 tons, 11.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 560 tons, 2.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 260 tons
      - Above deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     22,175 lbs / 10,058 Kg = 33.1 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 16.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.39 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  30.51 ft / 9.30 m,  25.59 ft / 7.80 m
      - Forward deck:   23.00 %,  25.59 ft / 7.80 m,  25.59 ft / 7.80 m
      - Aft deck:   42.00 %,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      21.50 ft / 6.55 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 163.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 35,629 Square feet or 3,310 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 137 lbs/sq ft or 670 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Kaiser Kirk

Welcome back !

On the one Two up, the TDS beam is 26, the overall beam 30,
which means only a 2m deep TDS on either side.

The second one... well no TDS, no depth issues !

On belt sloping : " Main Belt inclined 16.00 degrees (positive = in)"
SS's weird, and makes you put -16 if you want it inclined out, rather than in.
I keep mucking it up, and in any battles, I will presume the belt is inclined
in the direction most useful :)

Interesting to view these and consider the Asawaran and Daphae
classes I've been tinkering with. as follow ups to the Zemakas.
Both more the 2nd size range, but a very different approach.

The 400mm seems to be relying on it's armored deck and speed,
but IMHO with a 30000+ ship, debatable. 

Consider substantial periods of poor weather,
nightime, then factor in the average
visibility range in the North Sea was ~12000m,
and that's where the Norse/Wilno/Rome play.

Even if you can pick the range, the immune space
may be very limited or non existent*, and be rather
far out... where with 6 guns and 1920s FC
hitting will be more difficult.

*navweaps for the 1918 US 14/45 mk 8, no immune zone.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

The 40cm ship is more a flight of fancy than anything serious at this point.  I was envisioning it more as something to hang out in the Caribbean than a North Sea presence.

Yeah, I have a consistent problem with the inclined belt thing - it's X degrees in the good direction, not the bad direction.

TacCovert4

Well, one of them is still a good direction, if you're sitting at 500m.......
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