Vilnius Union Ships, 1920+: Electric Drive Boogaloo

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The Rock Doctor

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Initial trials of the two Wezownik class riverine seaplane carriers suggested that there is some utility to the type, but also indicated that the layout was a little cramped for three aircraft.  The Waz class basically stretches the existing design in draught and length, providing for hanger space for four aircraft (wings folded) and two on-deck handling areas with individual cranes.

Unlike her predecessors, the Waz can't be built in the Baltic and then loaded onto a Borys-class sealift ship for transport across the Atlantic.  She's just a bit too long.  Nor would she be particularly seaworthy as a tow or under power with extra coal as deck cargo.  Consequently, she'll be the first ship built in the Widoknagory 100m drydock in South Erica.


Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1921

Displacement:
   435 t light; 445 t standard; 458 t normal; 469 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (268.46 ft / 260.17 ft) x 29.53 ft x (3.12 / 3.18 ft)
   (81.83 m / 79.30 m) x 9.00 m  x (0.95 / 0.97 m)

Armament:
      1 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1921 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      1 raised mount
      5 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1921 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      1 raised mount
      Weight of broadside 4 lbs / 2 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm     22.97 ft / 7.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 14 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   0.79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 316 shp / 236 Kw = 10.28 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 25 tons (18% coal)

Complement:
   49 - 64

Cost:
   £0.043 million / $0.174 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Guns: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 35 tons, 7.5 %
      - Belts: 12 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armament: 7 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 16 tons, 3.4 %
   Machinery: 11 tons, 2.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 241 tons, 52.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 24 tons, 5.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 147 tons, 32.1 %
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 117 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Fittings:
-100 t:  Capacity for four armed floatplanes
-25 t:  L/R wireless
-17 t:  Weight reserve/deck cargo
-5 t:  Extra supplies

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,136 lbs / 3,690 Kg = 266.7 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 8.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.670 / 0.672
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.81 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 18 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  18.70 ft / 5.70 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.14 ft / 3.09 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 11.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 183.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 5,993 Square feet or 557 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 222 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 147 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.21
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Desertfox

Oh shiny! Japanese Guyana could use one of those. I'll be contacting you about ordering one. How would a "mercantile" version look like?
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

The Rock Doctor

Probably just a matter of removing the guns and assigning 20t per aircraft rather than 25.

The Rock Doctor

A toothless version.

Completely forgot I'd put in armor on the original so I'll edit that post shortly to ensure it covers the machinery.


Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1921

Displacement:
   435 t light; 445 t standard; 458 t normal; 469 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (268.46 ft / 260.17 ft) x 29.53 ft x (3.12 / 3.18 ft)
   (81.83 m / 79.30 m) x 9.00 m  x (0.95 / 0.97 m)

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 316 shp / 236 Kw = 10.28 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 25 tons (18% coal)

Complement:
   49 - 64

Cost:
   £0.043 million / $0.171 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 11 tons, 2.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 237 tons, 51.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23 tons, 5.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 187 tons, 40.8 %
      - Hull below water: 7 tons
      - Hull above water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 140 tons
      - Above deck: 30 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,871 lbs / 3,117 Kg = 225.2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 6.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 12.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.670 / 0.672
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.81 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 18 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  18.70 ft / 5.70 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.14 ft / 3.09 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 13.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 183.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 5,993 Square feet or 557 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 219 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 145 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.19
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

The Rock Doctor


The Rock Doctor

A small oiler to support Union operations in the Atlantic and eastern Pacific.  This isn't going to be powering battlegroups along or solving the world cruise supply problem.  It would, however, carry enough oil to more or less fill a protected cruiser or top up a quartet of torpedo-boats if they happen to be doing extended work away from port.

The ship's length and draft also allow use of small docks and shallower harbours away from the Union's primary ports, if that happens to be an issue.

The ship has a fairly large bunker of its own, and efficient machinery, allowing for a large cruise radius.  The powerplant allows her to run at fifteen knots on less than half power.   

The class would be built to civilian standards.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1922

Displacement:
   2,999 t light; 3,091 t standard; 3,678 t normal; 4,148 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (311.87 ft / 304.13 ft) x 42.65 ft x (18.04 / 19.86 ft)
   (95.06 m / 92.70 m) x 13.00 m  x (5.50 / 6.05 m)

Armament:
      1 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal gun - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck and hoist mount, 1922 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      2 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck centre
      1 raised mount
      4 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 129 lbs / 59 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 2 shafts, 6,703 shp / 5,000 Kw = 18.28 kts
   Range 20,000nm at 10.00 kts (25,000 nm with geared/electric boni)
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,057 tons

Complement:
   236 - 307

Cost:
   £0.399 million / $1.596 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 30 tons, 0.8 %
      - Guns: 30 tons, 0.8 %
   Armour: 11 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armament: 11 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 227 tons, 6.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 938 tons, 25.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 679 tons, 18.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,793 tons, 48.7 %
      - Hull below water: 757 tons
      - Hull above water: 750 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 86 tons

Fittings:
-25 t:  L/R wireless (AD)
-40 t:  Accommodation for 20 passengers (AD)
-21 t:  Weight reserve/mail (AD)
-100 t:  Dry stores (FD)
-100 t:  Oiling gear (FD)
-1,450 t:  Fuel oil cargo (BW/AW)
-57 t:  Electric drive (BW)


Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,248 lbs / 2,834 Kg = 93.2 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 2.1 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.564
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.13 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.44 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  25.26 ft / 7.70 m,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  13.45 ft / 4.10 m,  13.45 ft / 4.10 m
      - Aft deck:   15.00 %,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00 %,  13.45 ft / 4.10 m,  13.45 ft / 4.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.05 ft / 4.89 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 68.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 9,053 Square feet or 841 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 157 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 59 lbs/sq ft or 286 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 3.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather



The Rock Doctor

Giving thought to a refurbishment of the ever-popular Lucznik class armored cruisers, which are just over a decade old right now.

Armament-wise, I'd swap out the existing 130mm guns for 130 QFs and replace the existing 50mm QF guns with an AA suite.  There isn't much deck space to add new mountings anywhere.  Maybe a twin 130mm M&H to replace the existing forward deck 130 casemates.

The protection scheme is...actually not bad.  I'd add bulges, with 25mm of armor, to improve torpedo protection.  The armor only costs 0.305 BP but the bulges add 1,630 t to the light displacement and I'm not sure how to cost this, exactly.

The big changes would be swapping out the old turbines and oil-fired coal bunkers.  The old machinery weight is the limiting factor on the new stuff, and even with the new bulges, I can bump the speed from 25.6 to 27.6 knots.  The range would go up to 16,400 nm @ 10 knots, with an additional bonus from switching to geared turbines.

Ballpark cost (depending on how I deal with the armament and misc. weight):  $11.5 and 4.17 BP.  This assumes the "bulges" only cost the $ and BP of the bulge armor, and not the change of the displacement.

However, I do have a fair margin of hull strength on the finished product still...

Alternately, I can leave the machinery in place, while flipping it to all-oil fired anyway.  The older engines are oil-hogs, apparently, so the same weight of oil would get me less mileage.  The bulges cost me about 0.4 knots, which isn't dreadful.  I'm ball-parking the cost at about $6 and 1.30 BP in this scenario.

Below is the SS for the more intensive refurb, and the sketch of the original to remind y'all of the deck space challenge.


Lucznik, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1909 (Engine 1922)

Displacement:
   17,972 t light; 18,805 t standard; 20,225 t normal; 21,361 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (524.93 ft / 524.93 ft) x 82.02 ft (Bulges 88.58 ft) x (26.25 / 27.53 ft)
   (160.00 m / 160.00 m) x 25.00 m (Bulges 27.00 m)  x (8.00 / 8.39 m)

Armament:
      8 - 9.84" / 250 mm 45.0 cal guns - 480.81lbs / 218.09kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
     2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      6 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,781 lbs / 2,169 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   341.21 ft / 104.00 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   2.95" / 75 mm   183.69 ft / 55.99 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Upper:   5.12" / 130 mm   341.21 ft / 104.00 m   14.44 ft / 4.40 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.98" / 25 mm   341.21 ft / 104.00 m   24.51 ft / 7.47 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   7.87" / 200 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 2.36" / 60 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 9.84" / 250 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 84,450 shp / 63,000 Kw = 27.57 kts
   Range 16,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,557 tons

Complement:
   847 - 1,102

Cost:
   £1.434 million / $5.738 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,018 tons, 5.0 %
      - Guns: 1,018 tons, 5.0 %
   Armour: 6,612 tons, 32.7 %
      - Belts: 3,058 tons, 15.1 %
      - Bulges: 305 tons, 1.6 %
      - Armament: 1,356 tons, 6.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,578 tons, 7.8 %
      - Conning Towers: 315 tons, 1.6 %
   Machinery: 2,865 tons, 14.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,028 tons, 34.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,253 tons, 11.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 2.2 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 400 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     34,162 lbs / 15,496 Kg = 71.7 x 9.8 " / 250 mm shells or 3.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 15.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.29
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.580 / 0.584
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.91 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  27.89 ft / 8.50 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      23.36 ft / 7.12 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 66.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 30,906 Square feet or 2,871 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 160 lbs/sq ft or 782 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.07
      - Longitudinal: 2.47
      - Overall: 1.16
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Warning: Date too early for anti-air gun - 3rd Battery dammit it's my ship and I'll add flak if I want to.



The Rock Doctor

Bumped the bulge to 50mm and added 180 t of damage control misc. weight (not reflected in the post above).

Total project costs works out to $11.81 and 4.292 BP per ship.  Looks to be slightly more than six months of work.

The Rock Doctor

A new coastal minesweeper with sufficient fittings to do coastal ASW or inspection functions as well.

Would be built to auxiliary standards, assuming the minelaying capability doesn't count as offensive weaponry.  If it does, I might rethink that allocation.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1922

Displacement:
   488 t light; 501 t standard; 554 t normal; 597 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (163.40 ft / 156.82 ft) x 31.17 ft x (7.22 / 7.65 ft)
   (49.81 m / 47.80 m) x 9.50 m  x (2.20 / 2.33 m)

Armament:
      1 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1922 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      1 raised mount
      1 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air gun in deck mount, 1922 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      1 raised mount
      2 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 17 lbs / 8 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 2,011 shp / 1,500 Kw = 16.63 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 95 tons

Complement:
   56 - 74

Cost:
   £0.075 million / $0.300 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0.6 %
      - Guns: 3 tons, 0.6 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 68 tons, 12.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 213 tons, 38.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 66 tons, 12.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 201 tons, 36.3 %
      - Hull below water: 35 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 156 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Fittings:
-15 t:  Enhanced hydrophone package (BW)
-20 t:  Hull reinforcement (BW)
-100 t:  Sweeping gear
-40 t:  Fitted to lay 40 mines
-6 t:  ASW munitions
-1 t:  1918 fire control
-19 t :  Weight reserve


Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,940 lbs / 880 Kg = 150.7 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 10.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.03 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.52 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 36
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  18.70 ft / 5.70 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.05 ft / 3.67 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 49.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,411 Square feet or 317 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 159 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 39 lbs/sq ft or 190 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 6.02
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily




Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on April 10, 2022, 08:22:10 PM


Would be built to auxiliary standards, assuming the minelaying capability doesn't count as offensive weaponry. If it does, I might rethink that allocation.


yes, basically if it's something that makes a hole in one of our springsharp designs, or launches something that does,
it is most likely to be considered "armament" for AUX purposes. 
Depth charges are a bit of an exception and are allowed...but make holes in things from a table.

Now, that doesn't mean you can't have several mines, and remember the limit is 2% of normal.
In this case that's ~11 tons. 40 mines is a little extra.

Sweeping gear - there's no set standard, I think most are using 25t as the default for misc weight of unknown "real" amount. One of those fuzzy areas.

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

No worries.  I made some tweaks to the design - knocking down the size somewhat while flipping it back to a mil-spec costing. 

The hydrophone package went from enhanced to basic, given that it's more of a secondary role anyway.

Decided that maybe coal was a better choice for the design:  If and when she hits a mine and sinks, the survivors' chances of remaining survivors is probably better without a big pool of flammable oil surrounding the wreck.

There remains some excess hull strength for survivability purposes.



Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1922

Displacement:
   349 t light; 360 t standard; 405 t normal; 441 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (163.52 ft / 156.82 ft) x 26.25 ft x (6.89 / 7.35 ft)
   (49.84 m / 47.80 m) x 8.00 m  x (2.10 / 2.24 m)

Armament:
      1 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1922 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      1 raised mount
      1 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air gun in deck mount, 1922 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      2 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 17 lbs / 8 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 1,609 shp / 1,200 Kw = 16.78 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 82 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   44 - 58

Cost:
   £0.058 million / $0.234 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0.8 %
      - Guns: 3 tons, 0.8 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 59 tons, 14.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 175 tons, 43.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 56 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 109 tons, 26.9 %
      - Hull below water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 82 tons
      - Above deck: 2 tons

Fittings:
-5 t:  Basic hydrophone package (BW)
-20 t:  Hull bracing (BW)
-25 t:  Sweeping gear (FD)
-40 t:  Mines (FD)
-10 t:  ASW munitions (FD)
-1 t:  1918 fire control, such as it is (AD)
-8 t:  Weight reserve

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,251 lbs / 567 Kg = 97.2 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.96

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.510
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.98 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.52 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 26
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  19.36 ft / 5.90 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  8.53 ft / 2.60 m,  8.53 ft / 2.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  8.53 ft / 2.60 m,  8.53 ft / 2.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.92 ft / 3.63 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,742 Square feet or 255 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 170 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 166 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 8.07
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather




The Rock Doctor

A big-ticket refurbishment for the Nieugiety-class battleships.  Obviously cheaper options are available, ranging from a refit with just new light guns and fire control to a more sparse refurbishment that changes the bunkerage but leaves the engines and skips the armor adjustments. 

Note for reference purposes this is basically a clone of the Helgoland class dreadnoughts.

Basic refurbishment costs (from original light displacement):  $4.06 and 0 BP

Armament:
-Replacement of 130/75/50/10mm batteries and their armor:  $0.569 and 0.339 BP

Armor:
-Replacement of 300mm turret faces (only):  $0.392 and 0.392 BP
-Laminate 40mm over existing deck armor:  $1.051 and 1.051 BP
-Add 50mm armored bulges:  $0.618 and 0.618 BP

New miscellaneous weight (new FC, damage control):  $0.426 and 0.426 BP

Propulsion:
-Change bunkerage to all-oil:  $1.099 and 0 BP
-Machinery replacement:  $3.274 and 1.637 BP

Total cost:  $11.49 and 4.463 BP

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1905 (Engine 1922)

Displacement:
   22,500 t light; 23,635 t standard; 24,855 t normal; 25,831 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (508.53 ft / 508.53 ft) x 91.86 ft (Bulges 98.43 ft) x (26.74 / 27.69 ft)
   (155.00 m / 155.00 m) x 28.00 m (Bulges 30.00 m)  x (8.15 / 8.44 m)

Armament:
      12 - 11.81" / 300 mm 45.0 cal guns - 830.83lbs / 376.86kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.62lbs / 30.67kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      6 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 11,279 lbs / 5,116 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   330.54 ft / 100.75 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   177.95 ft / 54.24 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   330.54 ft / 100.75 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      1.97" / 50 mm   330.54 ft / 100.75 m   25.66 ft / 7.82 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   7.87" / 200 mm      11.0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.12" / 3 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:  Note, 40mm laminated over original decks
   For and Aft decks: 3.94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 2.76" / 70 mm  Quarter deck: 3.94" / 100 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.81" / 300 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 3 shafts, 48,258 shp / 36,000 Kw = 22.90 kts
   Range 12,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,197 tons

Complement:
   989 - 1,286

Cost:
   £2.010 million / $8.041 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,010 tons, 8.1 %
      - Guns: 2,010 tons, 8.1 %
   Armour: 9,628 tons, 38.7 %
      - Belts: 3,531 tons, 14.2 %
      - Bulges: 618 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armament: 2,560 tons, 10.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,558 tons, 10.3 %
      - Conning Towers: 361 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 1,637 tons, 6.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,247 tons, 33.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,355 tons, 9.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 978 tons, 3.9 %
      - Hull below water: 163 tons
      - Hull above water: 113 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 452 tons
      - Above deck: 250 tons

Fittings:
-226 t:  Damage control gear (BW/AW)
-50 t:  Torpedo flats (closed up but in place)
-100 t:  Command facilities (FD)
-352 t:  Weight reserve (FD)
-200 t:  1918 fire control (AD)
-25 t:  L/R wireless (AD)
-25 t:  Nightfighting doodads (AD)

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     44,548 lbs / 20,207 Kg = 54.1 x 11.8 " / 300 mm shells or 4.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 7.1 ft / 2.2 m
   Roll period: 15.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.24

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.650 / 0.652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.17 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  25.92 ft / 7.90 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      21.39 ft / 6.52 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 59.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 35,787 Square feet or 3,325 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 180 lbs/sq ft or 877 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.01
      - Longitudinal: 2.31
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Warning: Date too early for anti-air gun - 4th battery




The Rock Doctor

This proposal for an aircraft-carrying cruiser was rejected by senior naval personnel on the grounds that it was too expensive and ambitious for such a new concept.  They may also have thought it was stupid, but if so, they had the courtesy not to say so out loud.

The ship would have had 1.5 hangers, though the amidships portions of each would be reduced to narrow passageways on either beam by the 130mm shell rooms and exhaust ventilation.  These items, like the guns, funnel, and superstructure above them, were all to be mounted on the centreline.  This would have provided good sightlines for navigation and naval gunfire but probably quite bad outcomes on landing deck operations. 

The hangers would have elevators fore and aft, and the upper hanger would also open up to the flying-off deck forward.  Twenty aircraft would be carried - a mix of fighters and bomber/recce types.

The ship would've have protection, armament, and propulsion akin to modern light cruisers, in keeping with the notional cruiser-y role.



Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1922

Displacement:
   10,961 t light; 11,273 t standard; 12,344 t normal; 13,201 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (555.61 ft / 544.62 ft) x 65.62 ft x (21.98 / 23.18 ft)
   (169.35 m / 166.00 m) x 20.00 m  x (6.70 / 7.07 m)

Armament:
      6 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.62lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1922 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      1 double raised mount aft
      2 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      4 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 467 lbs / 212 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   360.89 ft / 110.00 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.98" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 91,153 shp / 68,000 Kw = 30.90 kts
   Range 16,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,929 tons

Complement:
   585 - 761

Cost:
   £2.340 million / $9.361 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 121 tons, 1.0 %
      - Guns: 121 tons, 1.0 %
   Armour: 950 tons, 7.7 %
      - Belts: 527 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armament: 32 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 391 tons, 3.2 %
   Machinery: 3,092 tons, 25.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,026 tons, 40.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,383 tons, 11.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,772 tons, 14.4 %
      - Hull below water: 800 tons
      - Hull above water: 800 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 72 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Fittings:
-1,600 t:  Capacity for 20 A/C [Flight-deck cruiser build] (BW/AW)
-13 t:  1918 fire control (AD)
-25 t:  L/R wireless (AD)
-134 t:  Weight reserve (AD/FD)

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21,423 lbs / 9,717 Kg = 319.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.34 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  22.64 ft / 6.90 m,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  25.59 ft / 7.80 m,  25.59 ft / 7.80 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  41.34 ft / 12.60 m,  41.34 ft / 12.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      32.28 ft / 9.84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 308.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,940 Square feet or 2,317 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 133 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 98 lbs/sq ft or 477 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 5.67
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Note:

Waterplane area w/two hangers allows 40 A/C
Flight-deck cruiser build halves to 20 A/C



The Rock Doctor

Early spitballing for a future monitor to carry a two-gun 450mm/45 gun.  Gives the Union and I a general sense of the size of the turret, and would let the Union work out just how severe the blast effects are quite early in the construction of subsequent battleships or armored cruisers.

I don't actually have a 450mm gun in service or development at this point, mind you.  The 1925 laydown supposes I design one with the 1915 gun tech in 1923-4.  If I were to hold off for the 1920 tech, the ship would be delayed a couple years and the shell could end up being heavier than what is shown here. 

The monitor would have facilities for a spotter floatplane right aft, with the secondaries flanking the hanger for it.  Misc. weight above deck is fire control, wireless, flag, and night-fighting; the ship would be notionally serving in a station-command role, much as existing monitors have been deployed lately.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1925

Displacement:
   13,282 t light; 14,000 t standard; 14,451 t normal; 14,811 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (403.83 ft / 393.70 ft) x 101.71 ft x (22.97 / 23.42 ft)
   (123.09 m / 120.00 m) x 31.00 m  x (7.00 / 7.14 m)

Armament:
      2 - 17.72" / 450 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3,086.47lbs / 1,400.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1925 Model
     1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      8 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      4 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6,837 lbs / 3,101 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   255.91 ft / 78.00 m   16.37 ft / 4.99 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 14.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.97" / 50 mm   255.91 ft / 78.00 m   21.10 ft / 6.43 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 82.02 ft / 25.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   17.7" / 450 mm   11.8" / 300 mm      15.7" / 400 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 3.94" / 100 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13.78" / 350 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion generators,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 8,043 shp / 6,000 Kw = 15.41 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 812 tons

Complement:
   658 - 856

Cost:
   £3.539 million / $14.157 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,229 tons, 8.5 %
      - Guns: 1,229 tons, 8.5 %
   Armour: 5,385 tons, 37.3 %
      - Belts: 1,574 tons, 10.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 393 tons, 2.7 %
      - Armament: 1,236 tons, 8.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,006 tons, 13.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 176 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 261 tons, 1.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,822 tons, 40.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,169 tons, 8.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 584 tons, 4.0 %
      - Hull below water: 144 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 140 tons
      - Above deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     41,101 lbs / 18,643 Kg = 14.8 x 17.7 " / 450 mm shells or 10.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 9.6 ft / 2.9 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.553
   Length to Beam Ratio: 3.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  29.53 ft / 9.00 m,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      21.06 ft / 6.42 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 55.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 164.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 27,945 Square feet or 2,596 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 174 lbs/sq ft or 849 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.85
      - Longitudinal: 4.19
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather



The Rock Doctor

Per the 23 Feb 22 news item, the experimental aircraft carrier Labedz would embark up to six fighters in a local air-defence role.  Based on the Rybolow class korsarz, also pictured in the illustration below, the ship would be relatively easily refurbished to take on a new role as a korsarz or other light, faster combatant once it becomes obsolete as an aircraft carrier.

Which might be sooner than expected once the Union tries to land aircraft on the landing deck, but who knows?  Maybe they'll instead raze the superstructure and put in a full-length flight deck once they have the next carrier tech figure out.  The world is their oyster.

The assumption is that the hanger can handle two fighters with folded wings aft of the lift, and two pairs of fighters forward of the lift, where the ship's beam nears its widest.  Naturally, I've costed the airgroup with the logic that this is a conversion, more or less. 


Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1922

Displacement:
   4,411 t light; 4,549 t standard; 4,880 t normal; 5,145 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (491.08 ft / 482.28 ft) x 45.93 ft x (15.42 / 16.05 ft)
   (149.68 m / 147.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (4.70 / 4.89 m)

Armament:
      4 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1922 Model
     1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck aft
      4 - 0.39" / 10.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.85lbs / 1.74kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 286 lbs / 130 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 45,577 shp / 34,000 Kw = 30.07 kts
   Range 8,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 596 tons

Complement:
   291 - 379

Cost:
   £1.084 million / $4.336 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 76 tons, 1.6 %
      - Guns: 76 tons, 1.6 %
   Armour: 35 tons, 0.7 %
      - Armament: 35 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 1,546 tons, 31.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,939 tons, 39.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 469 tons, 9.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 815 tons, 16.7 %
      - Hull below water: 360 tons
      - Hull above water: 360 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 45 tons

Fittings:
-720 t:  6 wheeled, single-seat aircraft (costed as conversion):  BW/AW
-8 t:  1918 fire control (AD)
-25 t:  L/R wireless (AD)
-10 t:  Secondary S/R wireless (AD)
-20 t:  Air operations centre (FD)
-32 t:  Weight reserve 

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,462 lbs / 2,024 Kg = 66.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
   Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.96 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  21.98 ft / 6.70 m,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  32.81 ft / 10.00 m,  32.81 ft / 10.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      22.08 ft / 6.73 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 124.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 230.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,759 Square feet or 1,371 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 314 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.78
      - Longitudinal: 3.24
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Carrier Notes:

-Waterplane area 1,371 m2 allows 21 A/C, halved if using flight-deck cruiser rules to 10.  This only carries 6.