Byzantine Empire 1933-35

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Jefgte

#75
QuoteSince the forecastle is 7.44m-9.09m, not (12-5) = 7m, it is not a flying off deck.
=> it is not a flying off deck.

QuoteThe quarterdeck must be the same as the flight deck, 12m in this case.
=> Misc weight 6980t was 7200t

Mavildeniz - Beyazdeniz, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier - 66 aircrafts laid down 1935

Displacement:
    25 000 t light; 25 916 t standard; 28 290 t normal; 30 189 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (738,04 ft / 734,91 ft) x 98,43 ft x (27,38 / 28,76 ft)
    (224,96 m / 224,00 m) x 30,00 m  x (8,34 / 8,76 m)

Armament:
      16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
      18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
      12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 002 lbs / 454 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    3,15" / 80 mm    507,09 ft / 154,56 m    11,91 ft / 3,63 m
    Ends:    1,18" / 30 mm    227,79 ft / 69,43 m    11,91 ft / 3,63 m
    Upper:    1,18" / 30 mm    507,09 ft / 154,56 m    8,01 ft / 2,44 m
      Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,97" / 50 mm    507,09 ft / 154,56 m    24,08 ft / 7,34 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
    For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
    Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 118 600 shp / 88 476 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 12 000nm at 14,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 4 273 tons

Complement:
    1 089 - 1 417

Cost:
    £7,056 million / $28,223 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 155 tons, 0,5 %
      - Guns: 155 tons, 0,5 %
    Armour: 5 189 tons, 18,3 %
      - Belts: 1 115 tons, 3,9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 3,1 %
      - Armament: 17 tons, 0,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 3 144 tons, 11,1 %
      - Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0,1 %
    Machinery: 3 369 tons, 11,9 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 307 tons, 32,9 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 289 tons, 11,6 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 6 980 tons, 24,7 %
      - Hull below water: 3 480 tons
      - Hull above water: 3 365 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 70 tons
      - Above deck: 65 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      69 682 lbs / 31 607 Kg = 645,2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
    Metacentric height 8,2 ft / 2,5 m
    Roll period: 14,4 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has low forecastle,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,508
    Length to Beam Ratio: 7,47 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    16,00 %,  29,82 ft / 9,09 m,  24,41 ft / 7,44 m
      - Forward deck:    34,50 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:    34,50 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    15,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        37,32 ft / 11,38 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,2 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 331,5 %
    Waterplane Area: 48 194 Square feet or 4 477 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 147 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 623 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,89
        - Longitudinal: 2,76
        - Overall: 1,00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 6980t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
40t for aircrafts spare parts
40t reserved for materials...
HBW
3135t for 33 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced ventilation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
40t for aircrafts spares parts
100t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
40t reserved for  material...


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

thank you for working through that with me.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

Quotethank you for working through that with me.

Sorry for the inconvenience.


25000t is easy to plan in $ & BP.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#78
Testing BB11 => BB10 in 225m shipyards

BB11, Byzantine Empire BB11 laid down 1935

Displacement:
    45 500 t light; 48 476 t standard; 51 387 t normal; 53 716 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (738,21 ft / 735,56 ft) x 121,39 ft x (32,18 / 33,40 ft)
    (225,00 m / 224,20 m) x 37,00 m  x (9,81 / 10,18 m)

Armament:
      9 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 3 320,01lbs / 1 505,93kg shells, 100 per gun
      Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model
      3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
        1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 50,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1935 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      28 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
      14 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
      12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 30 866 lbs / 14 001 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    13,8" / 350 mm    485,47 ft / 147,97 m    13,22 ft / 4,03 m
    Ends:    3,94" / 100 mm    250,07 ft / 76,22 m    13,22 ft / 4,03 m
    Upper:    3,94" / 100 mm    485,47 ft / 147,97 m    8,01 ft / 2,44 m
      Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,97" / 50 mm    485,47 ft / 147,97 m    30,64 ft / 9,34 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 98,43 ft / 30,00 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    15,0" / 380 mm    6,69" / 170 mm        13,8" / 350 mm
    2nd:    1,97" / 50 mm    1,57" / 40 mm        1,57" / 40 mm
    4th:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    5th:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 6,30" / 160 mm
    Forecastle: 3,94" / 100 mm  Quarter deck: 4,72" / 120 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 13,78" / 350 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Direct drive, 4 shafts, 122 624 shp / 91 477 Kw = 27,00 kts
    Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 5 240 tons

Complement:
    1 706 - 2 218

Cost:
    £21,614 million / $86,456 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 4 452 tons, 8,7 %
      - Guns: 4 452 tons, 8,7 %
    Armour: 17 969 tons, 35,0 %
      - Belts: 5 050 tons, 9,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 083 tons, 2,1 %
      - Armament: 3 823 tons, 7,4 %
      - Armour Deck: 7 427 tons, 14,5 %
      - Conning Towers: 586 tons, 1,1 %
    Machinery: 3 484 tons, 6,8 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 18 326 tons, 35,7 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5 887 tons, 11,5 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 1 269 tons, 2,5 %
      - Hull below water: 220 tons
      - Hull above water: 245 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 284 tons
      - Above deck: 520 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      74 937 lbs / 33 991 Kg = 25,7 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 13,2 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
    Metacentric height 8,0 ft / 2,4 m
    Roll period: 18,0 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,72
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,630
    Length to Beam Ratio: 6,06 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 27,12 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    17,50 %,  30,18 ft / 9,20 m,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forward deck:    33,00 %,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m
      - Aft deck:    33,00 %,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m
      - Quarter deck:    16,50 %,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m,  19,03 ft / 5,80 m
      - Average freeboard:        21,32 ft / 6,50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77,6 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151,9 %
    Waterplane Area: 66 905 Square feet or 6 216 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 245 lbs/sq ft or 1 197 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,95
        - Longitudinal: 1,45
        - Overall: 1,00
    Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
445t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
50t for 2 scoutplanes + cata
40t for night fighting
100t for admiral ship
94t reserved
AW
220t for climatisation
25t for enhanced hydrophone
BW
220t for extra pumps installation
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf