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Started by The Rock Doctor, April 26, 2021, 01:06:43 PM

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The Rock Doctor

First, let's look at the design considerations:

QuoteConceptually, the Deccans have a cruiser navy capable of projecting force along the Rim of the Indian ocean and into Indonesia.
The reality is their navy is not larger than Rajasthan or Laskmanavati, they want good and fast cruisers.

They should have coastal torpedo boats/destroyers, small fast short range.
They should have a small armored gunboat cruiser type.

They should have a protected cruiser hull of 4-5000 tons (the 0.9 comp hull)
I was working off a LaMotte-Picquet class as a baseline. Needs more range, but was a work in progress.

Then they should have a large cruiser/armored cruiser vessel.
As a secondary power, they had no capital ships, but they could have built a couple ACs/BCs now.
While those could be Bluchers with more speed, they could also be indomitable or something between.

Tech : What's available to them in terms of  destroyers/torpedoes fire control is 1909 tech.
With Engines, its still 1909 tech, but Decca doesn't have (much) domestic oil- I presume they import Parthian. Further, the Indian rim would have 0 commercially available.  So 90/10 oil sprayed coal

Arms : With Guns  1909 means they don't have 1910...  Which means they have 1905 calibers.
I expect they either use Byzantine or likely Parthian calibers, depending on who was friendlier at the time.
Alternately, French calibers off Navweaps work.

Range :
With 3800nm to Durban, and about the same to New Guinea, a minimum range would be about 8000nm.
Even then, a couple thousand steaming miles would be 'nice' so one might see up to 10,000nm.

The Rock Doctor

This is the aforementioned colonial cruiser/gunboat dealio.  Couple of large guns to punch through armor, some smaller guns for rate of fire.  Minimal armor, really.

Colonial Gunboat, laid down 1910

Displacement:
   1,928 t light; 2,057 t standard; 2,291 t normal; 2,478 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (268.52 ft / 262.47 ft) x 39.37 ft x (14.11 / 15.02 ft)
   (81.85 m / 80.00 m) x 12.00 m  x (4.30 / 4.58 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7.68" / 195 mm 45.0 cal guns - 228.17lbs / 103.50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1910 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 5.43" / 138 mm 45.0 cal guns - 80.87lbs / 36.68kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1910 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.47" / 12.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 3,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 780 lbs / 354 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.54" / 90 mm   183.73 ft / 56.00 m   7.51 ft / 2.29 m
   Ends:   1.18" / 30 mm     78.71 ft / 23.99 m   7.51 ft / 2.29 m
   Upper:   1.97" / 50 mm   183.73 ft / 56.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 0.98" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.54" / 90 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,094 ihp / 3,800 Kw = 18.07 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 421 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   165 - 215

Cost:
   £0.188 million / $0.753 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 206 tons, 9.0 %
      - Guns: 206 tons, 9.0 %
   Armour: 551 tons, 24.1 %
      - Belts: 356 tons, 15.6 %
      - Armament: 49 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 132 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 336 tons, 14.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 687 tons, 30.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 363 tons, 15.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 148 tons, 6.5 %
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 88 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Fittings:
-25 t:  L/R wireless
-50 t:  Command facilities
-21 t:  Fire control if available
-4 t:  Couple of single-tube 18" torpedoes to keep people honest
-48 t:  Weight reserve/passengers/deck cargo

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,116 lbs / 1,413 Kg = 13.8 x 7.7 " / 195 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 1.6 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 13.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.559
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.20 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.37 ft / 3.77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 7,212 Square feet or 670 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 343 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.69
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

The Rock Doctor

A small coastal torpedo-boat for defensive work.

Deccan Torpedo-boat, laid down 1910

Displacement:
   390 t light; 403 t standard; 458 t normal; 502 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (202.56 ft / 196.85 ft) x 19.69 ft x (9.84 / 10.48 ft)
   (61.74 m / 60.00 m) x 6.00 m  x (3.00 / 3.19 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 0.47" / 12.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 3,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,702 ihp / 5,000 Kw = 24.53 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 99 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   49 - 64

Cost:
   £0.048 million / $0.193 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 5 tons, 1.1 %
      - Guns: 5 tons, 1.1 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 1.4 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 238 tons, 51.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 118 tons, 25.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 68 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 23 tons, 5.0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 22 tons
      - Above deck: 1 tons

Fittings:
-1 t:  Fire control if available
-8 t:  Torpedoes
-14 t:  Weight reserve/short-range wireless

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     137 lbs / 62 Kg = 10.6 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.42

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.420 / 0.432
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.40 ft / 3.17 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,416 Square feet or 224 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 49 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 96 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 3.90
      - Overall: 0.62
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

The Rock Doctor

Early Deccan light cruisers utilize the same philosophy as the gunboats in having two larger guns on the centreline and faster-firing guns on the beam.  As true ocean-going vessels, they have much longer legs.  The use of VTEs does, however, limit their speed.

Deccan light cruiser laid down 1910

Displacement:
   3,369 t light; 3,560 t standard; 4,238 t normal; 4,780 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (400.68 ft / 393.70 ft) x 45.93 ft x (16.40 / 17.98 ft)
   (122.13 m / 120.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (5.00 / 5.48 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7.68" / 195 mm 45.0 cal guns - 228.17lbs / 103.50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1910 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      6 - 5.43" / 138 mm 45.0 cal guns - 80.87lbs / 36.68kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1910 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.47" / 12.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 3,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 942 lbs / 427 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.54" / 90 mm   275.59 ft / 84.00 m   8.14 ft / 2.48 m
   Ends:   1.18" / 30 mm   118.08 ft / 35.99 m   8.14 ft / 2.48 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 0.98" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.54" / 90 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13,405 ihp / 10,000 Kw = 22.03 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,220 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   262 - 341

Cost:
   £0.331 million / $1.323 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 249 tons, 5.9 %
      - Guns: 249 tons, 5.9 %
   Armour: 673 tons, 15.9 %
      - Belts: 369 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armament: 63 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 221 tons, 5.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 20 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 885 tons, 20.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,331 tons, 31.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 869 tons, 20.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 231 tons, 5.5 %
      - Hull above water: 91 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 130 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Fittings:
-25 t:  fire control if available
-50 t:  command facilities
-24 t:  torpedoes
-25 t:  L/R wireless
-107 t:  Weight reserve/mines/etc

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,429 lbs / 2,462 Kg = 24.0 x 7.7 " / 195 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 12.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.49

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.515
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  17.06 ft / 5.20 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.25 ft / 4.34 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,049 Square feet or 1,119 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 372 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

The Rock Doctor

And in a couple of days, I'll sit back, look at rival fleets and territorial expansions, and figure out the 1920 builds.

Edit:  Why yes I did copy/paste that from the Lasks thread.

TacCovert4

I noticed that they don't have any larger armored cruisers.  Is there any particular reasoning why they wouldn't have any?
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

The Rock Doctor

My interpretation of Kirk's set-up was that they wouldn't have such vessels for the 1910 build, only the 1920 build I haven't done yet.  If I have that wrong, Kirk can say so and I'll work something out for them.

TacCovert4

His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: TacCovert4 on April 26, 2021, 08:55:10 PM
I noticed that they don't have any larger armored cruisers.  Is there any particular reasoning why they wouldn't have any?

Probably a reasonable reason to expound on why the different NPC fleets are focused that way.

The NPCs come in various strengths.
Nations such as Japan, Azteca and China are among the strongest, but still had very limited capital ship options.
The Deccan sultanates were definitely not there in the 1901-1910 timeframe.

Further, I tried to have a fleet concept based on the nation's history and government.
For the Deccans, their ports are natural stops for freighters from east to west. Cruisers for distant trade protection were needed. 
Faced with larger powers on all sides, numerous smaller ships to patrol and defend their coasts, and a heavy reliance on coastal forts to keep the foe at bay.

Another aspect is the Deccan Sultanates are not a unity nation, they are more a Confederation. On land, they each contribute standardized miltary formations, but at sea... The differing sultanates probably are responsible for each providing vessels for the confederation navy.
So funding larger vessels would be something I think they would avoid until needed.   The introduction of the fast Byzantine and Parthian 8x 10" BCs in the mid-late 1910s
is probably a reason for their 1911-1920 vessels to include a larger cruiser type.

One of the fun aspects of having volunteers create these ships is some of the results are surprising.
Rocky's take on the Deccans is not what I expected, but that is likely for the good, as otherwise all the NPCs would be variants on my take on things.

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

I had started on the Deccan fleet prior to volunteers stepping up and my handing it over to Rocky.
With his permission, I've taken some of the hulls I had worked up, converted them to the French guns he's using, and will put them up.
The French flavor fits Deccans well.

The Deccans are a confederation, so a little more variance in hulls isn't shocking.

The first is the 1920 base hull for an armored cruiser
It can outrun the heavier Byzantine and Parthian 10" cruisers of the preceding generation, but handily likely all their smaller cruisers.
and has enough range to "work' around the rim of the Indian ocean.
Seakeeping is not as high as I asked for, but I hadn't thought out all the parameters desirable.

The second is a 1920 base hull for a light cruiser based on the planned French LaMotte-Picquet light cruiser
Same range/speed as the armored cruiser.

The last is a 1910 base hull for a protected cruiser.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

1920 Base hull for a light armored cruiser
I'll let Rocky come up with a potential 194mm / 274mm vessel.

Vastihavam, Deccan Sultanate Armored Cruiser laid down 1920

Displacement:
   12,998 t light; 13,604 t standard; 14,609 t normal; 15,413 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (558.43 ft / 551.18 ft) x 68.90 ft x (23.62 / 24.66 ft)
   (170.21 m / 168.00 m) x 21.00 m  x (7.20 / 7.52 m)

Armament:
      10 - 7.68" / 195 mm 45.0 cal guns - 228.18lbs / 103.50kg shells, 155 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1920 Model
     5 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      10 - 5.43" / 138 mm 45.0 cal guns - 80.87lbs / 36.68kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1920 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 2.36" / 60.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 6.99lbs / 3.17kg shells, 350 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,118 lbs / 1,414 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   358.27 ft / 109.20 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   1.18" / 30 mm   192.88 ft / 58.79 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Upper:   3.54" / 90 mm   358.27 ft / 109.20 m   17.22 ft / 5.25 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Hull void:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   1.18" / 30 mm      1.18" / 30 mm
   3rd:   0.24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.17" / 55 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 90,435 shp / 67,464 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,808 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   663 - 863

Cost:
   £2.906 million / $11.625 million

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

The 1920 base hull for a protected cruiser

Tolikat, Deccan Sultanates 1911-1920 Cruiser laid down 1920

Displacement:
   5,379 t light; 5,602 t standard; 6,182 t normal; 6,645 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (425.88 ft / 419.95 ft) x 45.11 ft x (19.36 / 20.54 ft)
   (129.81 m / 128.00 m) x 13.75 m  x (5.90 / 6.26 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.50" / 165 mm 45.0 cal guns - 138.23lbs / 62.70kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1920 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 6.50" / 165 mm 45.0 cal guns - 138.23lbs / 62.70kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1920 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      4 - 2.36" / 60.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 6.98lbs / 3.16kg shells, 300 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 857 lbs / 389 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.35" / 85 mm   365.35 ft / 111.36 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.98" / 25 mm     54.56 ft / 16.63 m   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
     Main Belt covers 134 % of normal length

   - Hull void:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.95" / 75 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 59,505 shp / 44,390 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,043 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   348 - 453

Cost:
   £1.383 million / $5.534 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 225 tons, 3.6 %
      - Guns: 225 tons, 3.6 %
   Armour: 970 tons, 15.7 %
      - Belts: 598 tons, 9.7 %
      - Armament: 50 tons, 0.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 302 tons, 4.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 21 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 2,266 tons, 36.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,768 tons, 28.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 803 tons, 13.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 149 tons, 2.4 %
      - Hull void weights: 45 tons
      - Hull above water: 20 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 36 tons
      - Above deck: 48 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,886 lbs / 1,763 Kg = 28.4 x 6.5 " / 165 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 2.1 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 13.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.590 / 0.598
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.31 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   8.00 %,  22.15 ft / 6.75 m,  20.51 ft / 6.25 m
      - Forward deck:   35.00 %,  20.51 ft / 6.25 m,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m
      - Aft deck:   52.00 %,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   5.00 %,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.34 ft / 5.89 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 131.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,727 Square feet or 1,275 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 71 lbs/sq ft or 348 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.79
      - Longitudinal: 2.67
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Warning: Beam between bulkheads too wide


Using the planned French cruiser La Motte-Picquet as a base,
this is a 1920  series base hull.

The Deccan need to go across the Indian Ocean and back
is reflected in the range.


Misc Weight
35t : Const Resv
23t  : FC
25t : LR Radio

36t : 12 torpedoes, 21" Torpedoes, refitted to 1908
20t : Stern rails for 20mines : 1908 Minelaying gear

1908 Night Fighting gear

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

1910 Base hull for a protected Cruiser.
Names for Regent Sultana Chand Bibi, defender of Ahmednagar against the Mughals.

Features 'heavy' guns fore/aft and on mid-ships mounts.
In order to allow the 'heavy' mid-ship guns to fire fore/aft, the smaller guns are placed in casements.
While not usable in heavy weather, they don't expect to fight in typhoons.

Sultana Chand Bibi, Deccan Sultanates Protected Cruiser laid down 1910

Displacement:
   4,894 t light; 5,096 t standard; 6,181 t normal; 7,050 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (465.88 ft / 459.32 ft) x 52.49 ft x (16.40 / 18.22 ft)
   (142.00 m / 140.00 m) x 16.00 m  x (5.00 / 5.55 m)

Armament:
      4 - 6.50" / 165 mm 45.0 cal guns - 138.23lbs / 62.70kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1910 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      8 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1910 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 2.36" / 60.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 6.98lbs / 3.16kg shells, 300 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 827 lbs / 375 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.15" / 80 mm   321.52 ft / 98.00 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Hull void:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.24" / 6 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.72" / 120 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 26,828 ihp / 20,014 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 12,100nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,954 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   348 - 453

Cost:
   £0.487 million / $1.949 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 197 tons, 3.2 %
      - Guns: 197 tons, 3.2 %
   Armour: 1,055 tons, 17.1 %
      - Belts: 500 tons, 8.1 %
      - Armament: 28 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 493 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 34 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 1,789 tons, 28.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,697 tons, 27.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,287 tons, 20.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 157 tons, 2.5 %
      - Hull void weights: 15 tons
      - Hull above water: 90 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 32 tons
      - Above deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,770 lbs / 3,071 Kg = 49.4 x 6.5 " / 165 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 11.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.22
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.547 / 0.562
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  23.79 ft / 7.25 m,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.96 ft / 5.17 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,780 Square feet or 1,559 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 340 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.86
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

15t - Void
19t - FC
25t - LR radio
32t - Torpedoes

50t - Marines
40t - Mines
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

Looks like I also had a destroyer design meant to include early ASW tech. The Deccans would have the 1905 ASW in the 1911-1920 period,
and could even look at mounting the 1910 tech towards the end of that period.
So I see I had a considerable weight reserve set aside to allow upgraded hydrophones and DC's to be mounted.

Khadga, Deccan Sultanate Oceanic Torpedo Boat laid down 1920

Displacement:
   749 t light; 776 t standard; 825 t normal; 865 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (301.90 ft / 295.28 ft) x 29.53 ft x (8.20 / 8.47 ft)
   (92.02 m / 90.00 m) x 9.00 m  x (2.50 / 2.58 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3.94" / 100 mm 50.0 cal guns - 32.30lbs / 14.65kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 97 lbs / 44 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.24" / 6 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 18,620 shp / 13,891 Kw = 30.25 kts
   Range 2,700nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 89 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   76 - 100

Cost:
   £0.215 million / $0.860 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 19 tons, 2.3 %
      - Guns: 19 tons, 2.3 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 425 tons, 51.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 249 tons, 30.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 77 tons, 9.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 54 tons, 6.5 %
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull void weights: 17 tons
      - Hull above water: 3 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 27 tons
      - Above deck: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     281 lbs / 127 Kg = 9.2 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
   Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.404 / 0.410
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  12.30 ft / 3.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.60 ft / 3.84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 174.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 5,089 Square feet or 473 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 54 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 129 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.79
      - Overall: 0.56
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

A              TT (Q) TT  TT  (Y)

1.9 :  FC
27t  :  3 x TT3 : 1908 TT, 3t Each

2t anti-mine paravane
1t ASW Kite

5t Basic Hydrophone
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

#14
Possible scout light cruiser...

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1920

Displacement:
   5,895 t light; 6,190 t standard; 6,801 t normal; 7,290 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (434.13 ft / 426.51 ft) x 55.77 ft x (20.01 / 21.09 ft)
   (132.32 m / 130.00 m) x 17.00 m  x (6.10 / 6.43 m)

Armament:
      6 - 5.43" / 138 mm 45.0 cal guns - 80.87lbs / 36.68kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1920 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      8 - 5.43" / 138 mm 45.0 cal guns - 80.87lbs / 36.68kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1920 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.19lbs / 1.45kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 0.47" / 12.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.05lbs / 0.02kg shells, 3,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,139 lbs / 517 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   314.96 ft / 96.00 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ends:   1.18" / 30 mm   111.52 ft / 33.99 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
     Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 53,619 shp / 40,000 Kw = 29.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,100 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   373 - 486

Cost:
   £1.346 million / $5.383 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 243 tons, 3.6 %
      - Guns: 243 tons, 3.6 %
   Armour: 1,296 tons, 19.1 %
      - Belts: 728 tons, 10.7 %
      - Armament: 88 tons, 1.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 450 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 30 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,042 tons, 30.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,005 tons, 29.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 906 tons, 13.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 310 tons, 4.6 %
      - Hull above water: 150 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 150 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,131 lbs / 2,781 Kg = 76.5 x 5.4 " / 138 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.509
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.46 ft / 5.93 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,850 Square feet or 1,472 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 81 lbs/sq ft or 395 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.85
      - Longitudinal: 2.26
      - Overall: 0.93
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform