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The Rock Doctor

Perhaps Parthia and Japan should fight for the honor.

Kaiser Kirk

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Quote from: The Rock Doctor on April 22, 2021, 12:38:47 PM
Perhaps Parthia and Japan should fight for the honor.

There's no need for that.
There's the difference that Parthia shares a land border with the Golden Horde and has a large deployable army which could come to Wilno's aide.
Japan... not so much.
:)

But, glad to hear Wilno is considering the concept !
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

I'm playing with an inclined belt for a 1918 design.

But I have forgotten virtually everything I ever learned about trigonometry.

If a belt is inclined at 10 degrees, and is to full enclose a space 4.8 metres high, how "high" does the actual belt need to be?

Kaiser Kirk

Hmm, I actually had to use trig a couple years ago to figure out offset angles setting up cable yarding corridors...
but there, I know adjacent and opposite and am trying to find the angle correction...
This is adjacent (4.8m) and angle are known and we want hypotenuse.

..which I didn't remember...and had to look it up

Cos (deg) = Adjacent/hypotenuse

So

Cos (10) = 0.98480775301221  = 4.8 / hypotenuse

So

hypotenuse * 0.98480775301221 = 4.8

so

hypotenuse = 4.8 / 0.98480775301221  = 4.874

hmm not as big a difference as expected, perhaps I made an error, but luckily I showed my work so others can find it !!!
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Desertfox

It's a very shallow angle so your math looks good. Unless your calculator is set to radians instead of degrees.
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The Rock Doctor

Thanks for that, Kirk.

I found a site this morning that confirmed the same number, so that's handy.  I was not expecting a huge difference from 4.8 metres, but maybe a bit more than a 7.5 cm difference.

Kaiser Kirk

I think for Parthians that math should work
For all others, just double the distance to be covered...
::)
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

For a given vertical height, the length of the hypotenuse/angled belt is:

10 degrees:  101.5%
12 degrees:  102.2%
14 degrees:  103.1%
16 degrees:  104.0%
18 degrees:  105.2%
20 degrees:  106.4%

The Rock Doctor

I'm starting to feel like eight destroyers a year is too many.  That's 160 over a twenty year period.


Jefgte

QuoteI'm starting to feel like eight destroyers a year is too many.  That's 160 over a twenty year period.

6 is a good medium number.
12 per year => 1 Flotilla per year.

You could reduce to 4 if you built Torpedo Boat or TGB for coastal operation.

(TGBs only have 50% of the displacement reserved for the engines.
Weight saving is reserved for the installation of a powerful artillery, often 120mm guns and 4 torpedo tubes.)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Desertfox

Psh, I only laid down 16 destroyers this half year, while reffiting another 8.
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

The Rock Doctor


TacCovert4

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on June 24, 2021, 08:34:03 PM
Slacker.

Sad GTB noises. 

1918 I will build 4 x DDs......just saying. 
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The Rock Doctor

Halving my destroyer build only nets me tonnage for two capital ships, though.  Still spending most of my tonnage on the big boys.

Jefgte

QuoteHalving my destroyer build only nets me tonnage for two capital ships, though.  Still spending most of my tonnage on the big boys.

What is the best fleet ratio?
1BB
1AC
2CL
3DD (ocean operations)
2TB (coastal operations)

1 or 1.5...2 or 2.5...?
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf