General Social/Chatter Thread

[AnchorSteam]

Okay, Norse was suggested to me before, so I would probably go with that one, and if it is already fleshed-out so much the better.

Jeez.... just looking at the map, it looks pretty extensive.
Big and complicated, in other words.

My free time is going to be pretty limited for a few days, but I will look into it.

Army too, eh?

[Kaiser Kirk]

I've asked Snip, among others, for their opinions.

Snip's design for Nav 7 is naval focused, with Land and Air units abstracted.
Folks can tell their stories without having to breakdown which Battalion is garrisoning which coastal town.

So anyhow, poke around, get acquainted with folks turnsheets and the various rules.
If you aren't so interesting in the SS aspects, that actually saves you work :)
If you are more story interested, that's important, Maddox took the Inca as a nice story perch.

What your goals are - more story telling, or a real interest in naval development, help inform us as to a good 'home' for you.

Currently, I'm actually inclined towards Laksmanavati, which Snip didn't even list.  Basically the Bengali Kingdom.
No immediate direct conflicts, nestled among NPCs. A decent colonial position in Australia.  A mid-level power, so it can be relevant and potentially important as an ally.  Rich and sophisticated history. A position you can grow into and flesh out as time allows.

Ethiopia could be interesting. Key spot between nations, interior growth potential.

Rajasthan is the next most likely, a little bigger, 2 sets of colonies, and a land border with..Me.

The Norse, while currently empty, have an extensive navy, and I'd like to see someone taking advantage of that by spring sharping their own ships.
Plus it's a big spread out position with potential conflicts with two major players.

Deccan Sultanates, Confederation of 5 tribes, Maya then Thailand then Berber States are all open.

Over the next couple of days we'll move towards getting you started in one of those spots.

-Kirk

[AnchorSteam]

Folks can tell their stories without having to breakdown which Battalion is garrisoning which coastal town.

oh thank christ....

Currently, I'm actually inclined towards Laksmanavati, which Snip didn't even list.  Basically the Bengali Kingdom.
No immediate direct conflicts, nestled among NPCs. A decent colonial position in Australia.  A mid-level power, so it can be relevant and potentially important as an ally.  Rich and sophisticated history. A position you can grow into and flesh out as time allows.

Sounds like a good one, possibly, but -

The Norse, while currently empty, have an extensive navy, and I'd like to see someone taking advantage of that by spring sharping their own ships.
Plus it's a big spread out position with potential conflicts with two major players.

So, it seems like Norse would be a real prize, but only if I can make SS work in my little machine, correct?

Deccan Sultanates, Confederation of 5 tribes, Maya then Thailand then Berber States are all open.

Right, the reason I was interested in Thailand is because another recent game showed me what they have right down to the decimal point. They have access to coal and iron, and even some tungsten. It is a surprising little place, but little, so I will keep this in mind in case I can't make SS work.
Today has been brutal, so I will try to set that up tomorrow after noon... Pacific time.
Is there a particularly good time of day for this?

[snip]

We are kinda scattered around. I think Foxy and Kirk are both Pacific as well, Im an hour behind you guys. Got a few east coasters and at least one Euro left.

[Desertfox]

Jef and Maddox are both in Europe. But we all move at a somewhat slowish pace, so no real hurry. 

There are really no bad spots, there's even a nice quiet spot in the Iroquois.

I am already signed up to help out with the Norse (combination of British and American ships with a sprinkling of German)and have designed ships for four of the current player nations, so if you wanted to take the Norse and can't get SS3 running, I can definitely help there. I have also run Siam in a past iteration, am quite familiar with them, run Japan at the moment, and was planning on suggesting ship designs for them, so that's another country I can help with.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Thailand is a possibility.
You'll note the Thailand here includes the Malay penninsula.
It's in the middle of everything going on in the South East Asian sphere.
The downside is the Thai economy is similar in size to the Incan, and they have not been involved in getting colonies.
So it's a good spot from a story/interaction point of view, but not very strong.

Laksmanavati is a middleweight power, with a decent colony in NW Australia.

Either one could be an option, depending on what you're looking for.

For the Norse, frankly I would like someone who will be developing the navy and it's warships. That's not an absolute, but it would be weird for a major nation to suddenly start hiring out design staff, and it's difficult to plan a coherent fleet if you don't get to tinker with designs in advance. Of course the Parthian plans for their fleet have been considerably battered.

So in the end, we'll seek to fit the nation to your interests.


As for resources, that was also part of Snip's simplification - every nation played has "sufficient" strategic resources for military needs. 
I wanted to have a certain number of Primary Resources OR 2 Secondary  Plus 1 Energy to make each factory go...fortunately for you all, Snip prevailed.

You will not face the problem of the WWII Italians having to ration using their fleet because of fuel.
Now, that just applies to "home", overseas will take supply lines.  Which can be a consideration - wood/coal are available everywhere, oil not so much.
Likewise, if your nation was historically rich in a resource, that can be a storyline material.  In this timeframe, the areas that are my Parthia were major oil producers, eclipsed by the US...which is only now starting to produce oil-  so I'm presuming Parthia is dominant in that market are exporting (as historical), but plowing the funds into infrastructure and colonies to absorb a burgeoning population....that's all storyline, but effects how I viewed the Sino-Japanese War...I would have merchants in those waters.

Timewise,
I'm a bit of a luddite, I do the forums/PMs, but don't do chat/discord.  Others do and folks are decent about helping out.
I check the forums generally around 7pm pst and 11pm pst, pretty much everyday except Weds and maybe Thurs.

Folks can tell their stories without having to breakdown which Battalion is garrisoning which coastal town.

oh thank christ....

Currently, I'm actually inclined towards Laksmanavati, which Snip didn't even list.  Basically the Bengali Kingdom.
No immediate direct conflicts, nestled among NPCs. A decent colonial position in Australia.  A mid-level power, so it can be relevant and potentially important as an ally.  Rich and sophisticated history. A position you can grow into and flesh out as time allows.

Sounds like a good one, possibly, but -

The Norse, while currently empty, have an extensive navy, and I'd like to see someone taking advantage of that by spring sharping their own ships.
Plus it's a big spread out position with potential conflicts with two major players.

So, it seems like Norse would be a real prize, but only if I can make SS work in my little machine, correct?

Deccan Sultanates, Confederation of 5 tribes, Maya then Thailand then Berber States are all open.

Right, the reason I was interested in Thailand is because another recent game showed me what they have right down to the decimal point. They have access to coal and iron, and even some tungsten. It is a surprising little place, but little, so I will keep this in mind in case I can't make SS work.
Today has been brutal, so I will try to set that up tomorrow after noon... Pacific time.
Is there a particularly good time of day for this?

[The Rock Doctor]

Welcome aboard, AnchorStream.

[Jefgte]

Welcome aboard AnchorStream
& Good luck

Jef  ;)

[AnchorSteam]

Thanks again, everyone, the response here is showing me that TacCovert4 was right, I really should drop the place I have been trying to help run and come over here instead.
I will have my act together and be ready to take part by the end of the week.

Tomorrow I will try to get SS working and hope it does not melt my mini-mac. But, even if I can't, I like the idea of Thailand or Ethiopia. I know them both pretty well and have already war-gamed both (but WW2-era).
However, I have been hunting around for current information on them, and I am not finding it. I guess I just don't know where to look yet, so I will be back tomorrow afternoon to ask about that.

See you soon!

[The Rock Doctor]

I don't think there's any current information to find for either country.  Both were quiet NPCs, so chances are nobody's been able to work up baseline data for them just yet.

[Kaiser Kirk]

However, I have been hunting around for current information on them, and I am not finding it. I guess I just don't know where to look yet, so I will be back tomorrow afternoon to ask about that.

As designed, Snip left the NPCs as blanks.
They were assigned secret tiers which grouped them into rough power ranges relative to the players.
So that part is written and Snip and I have copies. I can turn that into IC and BP and some starting choices when the nation goes NPC->PC.

I have been slowly..ever so slowly... starting to round them out and make them a little more vibrant. ... the next step is to publish the Thai history, finish the Berbers and Confederation (Tac?) and start the Diplomatic tracking. Which I kinda expected to get to last weekend, but got caught up in other stuff.

There are histories for the various NPCs here : https://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,7440.0.html

The Thai one Fox wrote up the draft, and I have failed to polish and post.
The Berber is partially done, need to tie together.
Tac had been working on the Confederation

So,

[AnchorSteam]

I got here a little late today, again. Sorry about that. i had to get my hand Xrayed and getting into a Hospital these days is about like getting into Fort Knox.

I have SS stored in my mac, but what is a safe source for "Virtualbox"?
I ask because one must be careful these days.... very careful.

And I think Thailand is out. Historically they had 2 x DDs, 4 x TBs and 4 x Gunboats of questionable value, and a whole slew of worthless crap. The best warship is the Royal yacht  and its not even up to Light Cruiser standards.
Pity, much of the coastline is lke Torpedo-Boat heaven.

But Ethiopia has a similar set of islands where it counts the most, so maybe I can do something with that.

[snip]

Dont worry about the historical fleets, they are not applicable to what sort of fleets would be reasonable for the sim.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Per Anchor's request I'm working on an updated End HY2 1913 national map- I'll show the Sino-Japanese as a red conflict circle.
Then I'll be providing rough ideas of the economies and naval tonnages of Ethiopia and Thailand

I was busy until a little after 9pm today, so trying to get this out this evening to aid him moving forward.

[Guinness]

I have SS stored in my mac, but what is a safe source for "Virtualbox"?
I ask because one must be careful these days.... very careful.

Downloads from here should be fine: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Just check the SHA256 checksums if you are worried.