General Social/Chatter Thread

[Jefgte]

...Put getting up just an hour early just wrecks me for a while...

"dicere, dictum"

dito

[TacCovert4]

Savings time didn't bother me, it's annoying but not life altering.  However, I've been consistently working 60+ hours of overtime a month, so I've just been in a general state of exhaustion. 

[Kaiser Kirk]

Savings time didn't bother me, it's annoying but not life altering.  However, I've been consistently working 60+ hours of overtime a month, so I've just been in a general state of exhaustion.

Been there done that...really not fun. Campaign fires I work 14hrs/travel 2, 7 days/week, more at the beginning getting all the fire maps up and running. Can take a bit to recover from.

But valuable - really good work on that bust you posted about.
Hope you and your fellows feel damn good about that.

[Kaiser Kirk]

FYI, I'll be gone this weekend.
Next weekend should be the new HY

[The Rock Doctor]

Have a good weekend.

[Jefgte]

1931H2 nearly finish for Byzantium.
18510t - 2T3x381 choosed for Koloni BB

When BBs Koloni 'll commissioned, old PDNs with 254 guns will be scrapped.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Bah Humbug.
I wrote a long post last night and it does not show.

Second time on the new forum design that's happened.
Sessions time out and it goes to a new preview/post page.
I'll get used to it.


Synopsis :

Long weekend, fun weekend, very busy weekend.

I find the Koloni choice interesting as another example of parallel design between us. 
My current similar ship design is a 1931 laydown, 2T4 333L43, with enough speed margin over the Byzantine battleline to stay away. I simply am unsure if I will free the resources to build it.

Hy1 1931 still in progress

I want to go through the most recently commissioned ships and make sure I haven't missed something that effects my design parameters.

I also want to figure out the performance of my new guns.

That will help me evaluate between the armor schemes of hypothetical cruiser design XXI and XXIV, etc.
I *think* the new 165L55 makes the new cruiser a good idea, and I *think* the new 215L47 makes the 'light armored cruiser' a viable concept...but

I use Logi's Ballistics tool for gun performance.
It has coefficients you enter for DECK and BELT penetration.

For 1925 Artillery and shells, you need OTL 1929+ gun data.
Unfortunately that was the Treaty Period...and the Great Depression.
NavWeaps has 1935 British estimates. Most USN tables with Pen seem to be based on 1942 Empirical.
From Nathan Okun's discussion of shells vs. Bismarck's armor, I have the impression that the mid-30s onward USN
shells had superior performance in most conditions, though the superheavies had issues in some situations.
So the 1942 data probably overestimates Belt penetration.

Unless we add a 1930ish Naval Artillery Tech..and we probably should have 1 or 2 more...the 1942 seems appropriate.

Also, I can really only fine tune Logi's tool for "correct" for a ~5000m range band.
That can be 10-15km, or 15-20km etc.  After which the values diverge.

When battle ranges were 10-15km, that mattered little.
When they are 15-30km, that matters more.

I will probably try to get the BELT numbers accurate for 15-20km, what the Brits felt was decisive range,
while the DECK I will try for 20-25km, as the longest hits were about 26km.

[The Rock Doctor]

Heading out to chase the eclipse in an hour.  Wish me clear skies.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Good luck on the Clear skies !!

My buddy in NE Maine is right in the path, dunno if they are planning to watch.

[Jefgte]

Enjoy guys, an eclipse is unforgettable.

[The Rock Doctor]

Yeah that was pretty cool and I look forward to Ottawa's next eclipse in 2099.

[Kaiser Kirk]

I recall seeing one in grade school.
Several years ago there was a partial one while I was working in the woods. Got dim(mer) under the trees.
This one was only ~30% in my area, my boss actually had some spare glasses so I could look.
My Maine buddy posted up some pictures ...but of his yard going dim, not the sun.

[Jefgte]

Bah Humbug.
I wrote a long post last night and it does not show.

Second time on the new forum design that's happened.
Sessions time out and it goes to a new preview/post page.
I'll get used to it.

Same problemo in "Byzantine ship 1930"

"The 8000t class C13 and C11 cruisers receive 114/45DP instead of the 120/45QF
Cost:
C13 => 2,168BP & 2.168$
C11 => 1.07BP & 1.07$
Minor weight adjustments are made to Misc. Weight.

36 x M2x120 mlle 1926 -1930 of these very recent cruisers could be installed on DDs (?)

So... server record or not!
"

[Kaiser Kirk]

On the bright side, happy to have the forums,
even if that new double-post thing is annoying,
I am learning to double check that something actually posted.
and there is not a need to hit post the second time.

[The Rock Doctor]

Been seeing a lot of unfamiliar photos of historical ships on social media of late.  There have certainly been a lot of times where I'm inclined to call it AI but maybe forgotten stuff just gets found and posted, I dunno.

The 12,000 t USN submarine with 4x2 8" turrets (Lexington/Sara types) was certainly a puzzle. 

On the other hand, I've also stumbled across a couple guys who do 1:350 and larger ship models and some of the close-up photos they post are certainly helpful to me in understanding the size and location of bits like boats and lights.