General Social/Chatter Thread

Started by The Rock Doctor, May 11, 2020, 02:20:43 PM

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The Rock Doctor


Kaiser Kirk

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

*Looks around for reminder of what historical carrier development in this time period was like:

RN:  Half-dozen conversions of various utility, plus Hermes.  Oh.

USN:  Big-arsed conversions and Ranger.  Oh.

IJN:  Big-arsed conversions and Ryujo.  Oh.

MN:  Bearn.  Oh.

Kaiser Kirk

Hermes and my Bazdari are similar in many ways :)
Don't forget the IJN"s Honsho :)

But yes carriers of the 20s-30s were more limited, for good reason.

The 1920s saw a great deal of aircraft carrier development that
made them much more effective later, and the late 1930s-1940s saw
leaps in aircraft performance.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

Looking at Wiki, in 1929 the Royal Navy had :
Argus, Hermes, Eagle, Furious, Couragous/ Glorious   : 6 carriers , 200 aircraft.
While I was thinking the Washington Treaty effected this, perhaps not.
The treaty limited carriers, but basically excluded the first 4 from the tonnage as 'experimental'
and allowed Couragous/Glorious over the size limit as conversions.
So the Brits could have built new carriers up to 27,000 tons , or those under <10,000 didn't count.
However they also had superiority and budget problems. So why build more?
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

I believe Wesworld had a rule that allowed a player to receive scrap value for a ship that was preserved as a museum piece.  While the museum ship still physically existed - like a contemporary Mikasa or Averoff - it no longer had military value and could never regain military value.

I am curious if there's interest in adding a similar rule to this sim.

Kaiser Kirk

I do not happen to recall that. My Dutch never did anything meriting a museum ship, always a Tier 2 or 3 power. Not like the mighty Mughal Empire !

Personally, so long as the ship is permanently removed from service, never ever available to be refurbished and returned, and no functional parts surviving intact to be grafted onto other vessels... I don't care if there is 'scrap' claimed.  Call it a tourism boost...
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

Really?  Am I thinking of N3 then?

Well, anyway, it doesn't matter if you and the gang are good with it.

TacCovert4

I don't really care.  I put one of the Scimitar class out for museum ship as a Caicos war Veteran.   Ultimately I'll probably put HMS Osprey or something up as a museum ship when I retire them, as a key player in the Mayan situation.
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

Jefgte

A museum ship is no longer a warship.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

TacCovert4

Concur.  When I did it, I simply listed it for scrapping, but didn't take the 15% from that particular ship.  Of course 15% of 500t isn't anything anyone cares about.
His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

The Rock Doctor

Kirk, Tac - you guys in the path of the April eclipse?

Pretty sure it isn't going to hit France so Jef is out of luck.

Jefgte

I remember well the solar eclipse of August 11, 1999.
During the total eclipse, the countryside turned purple.
The temperature dropped by 10°C.
But the most surprising thing was the total silence,
no more birds singing, no more barking dogs...
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on January 31, 2024, 06:54:33 PM
Kirk, Tac - you guys in the path of the April eclipse?

Pretty sure it isn't going to hit France so Jef is out of luck.

I appear to be well out of the Path.
Tac should partially get it.
Looks like it just about passes over my buddy's place in Maine.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

Well this time the power outage was less than 24 hours.
Which is nice :)

...folks outside town limits who are still out may not agree...
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest