Inca 1912 HY1

[Kaiser Kirk]

For the Inca, Maddox is mainly interested in the storytelling and interaction.
I view that as valuable, and agreed to do the setup work  to allow the Inca to participate.

For the beginning, I will make ships/turns to meet his orders.  Phoenix may take over the turns eventually.
The Inca fortunately are not overly complex :)
And I like the sailing ships.

So I'll post these, if there's no flaws and Maddox likes them, I'll post the Inca turn.

Eventually I expect the Inca may bid out building plans, supplying the BP, $$ and a profit for those that build them ships.
The Inca rolled over 1 HY of prebuild for that, and will continue to save the current HY production and use the prior HY's.

On a broader note, I hope to make that typical of NPCs for 'lead ships of class'.

For 1912,
Maddox has requested additional Windjammer cruisers, outfitted a bit more for show.  The ones posted below are updated ones with strengthened masts to carry more sails, and a suite of staterooms for important guests.

Maddox has also wanted a series of auxiliaries with a primary role of freighters/whalers/fishing vessels, but capable of serving as seaborne scouts.
I have designed a lightly armed barque-rigged lead vessel capable of several hundred tons of cargo/passengers.

The Inca are also going to continue building the 1911 torpedo boat design, and start construction of the 1905 40ton MTB-As.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Coastal Auxiliary Cutter, Incan  Barque laid down 1911

This ship is designed for the Inca as a coastal auxiliary to be used for whaling/fishing/coastal freight, but with a secondary role as a potential patrol vessel. Two light pivot guns and a radio assist in this role.

These are mercantile construction, with steel masts and the mechanical assists of the windjammer technology. 

This vessel can sail at 12 knots.

With their length and draft, they can use any drydock or port.

Displacement:
   1,198 t light; 1,229 t standard; 1,259 t normal; 1,282 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (159.83 ft / 147.64 ft) x 45.93 ft x (13.12 / 13.31 ft)
   (48.72 m / 45.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (4.00 / 4.06 m)

Armament:
      2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1909 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 62 lbs / 28 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.31" / 8 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 2,334 ihp / 1,741 Kw = 15.00 kts
   Range 1,200nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 53 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   105 - 137

Cost:
   £0.070 million / $0.278 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 17 tons, 1.4 %
   Armour: 1 tons, 0.1 %
      - Armament: 1 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 155 tons, 12.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 333 tons, 26.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 61 tons, 4.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 691 tons, 54.9 %
      - Hull below water: 392 tons
      - Hull void weights: 40 tons
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 99 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,175 lbs / 986 Kg = 71.3 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.63
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 10.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.51

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.495 / 0.497
   Length to Beam Ratio: 3.21 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Aft deck:   52.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.94 ft / 4.25 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,320 Square feet or 401 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 51 lbs/sq ft or 249 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.80
      - Longitudinal: 7.70
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather



This vessel is full rigged

Miscellaneous Weight :
142 below : Masts
250 below : goods storage

100 in hull : passenger room (on some vessels ommitted for goods storage)

50 on deck : varies from cargo handling, to whaleboats to motor launches
10 on deck : 4 watercannons for fires/other uses

25 Above deck : Long Range radio
2   Above deck : 1905 rangefinder (fire control) on spotting top.
72 Above deck : Sails

40 void : construction reserve
Void : 10t excess

"half hull speed = 5% normal displacement weight, every additional knot = +1% normal displacement weight, every additional knot above hull speed = +2% normal displacement weight"

This is the alternate means of calculating sailing rig.

With a normal of  1259 a 1/2 hull speed (6.075 kts) costs : 62.95t
For each additional knot : +2% : 25.18t

For 12.075, +6kts, or +12% is needed. Total of : 214 tons
Split 142tons below, 72tons above
Split 2/3 below, 1/3 above

[Kaiser Kirk]

This is an updated  Supay class Windjammer.
The masts are strengthened for higher sailing speeds.
100 tons is set aside for quarterdeck staterooms, as these are meant as armed diplomatic liners.

Maddox can advise me of a new class name if needed. :)

Supay II, Incan Windjammer Barque laid down 1911

Displacement:
   4,499 t light; 4,915 t standard; 5,499 t normal; 5,967 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (349.33 ft / 334.65 ft) x 45.93 ft x (23.85 / 25.41 ft)
   (106.48 m / 102.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (7.27 / 7.75 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7.64" / 194 mm 50.0 cal guns - 235.84lbs / 106.98kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 82.64lbs / 37.48kg shells, 240 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 82.64lbs / 37.48kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides forward
      8 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.87lbs / 4.02kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,949 lbs / 1,338 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   234.25 ft / 71.40 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   1.18" / 30 mm   100.36 ft / 30.59 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.31" / 8 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,001 shp / 3,731 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,900nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,052 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   319 - 415

Cost:
   £0.338 million / $1.353 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 492 tons, 8.9 %
   Armour: 877 tons, 15.9 %
      - Belts: 400 tons, 7.3 %
      - Armament: 101 tons, 1.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 362 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 223 tons, 4.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,363 tons, 24.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,001 tons, 18.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,544 tons, 28.1 %
      - Hull below water: 737 tons
      - Hull void weights: 125 tons
      - Hull above water: 120 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 140 tons
      - Above deck: 422 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10,142 lbs / 4,600 Kg = 45.5 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 14.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.98
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.29 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 38
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.11 ft / 6.13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 59.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,480 Square feet or 974 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 128 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 368 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.82
      - Longitudinal: 5.74
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

The hull is that of the German 1902 Windjammer Herzogin Cecilie, which managed 21knots at one point.  Windjammers of this period had steel hulls and masts and simplified rigs aided by donkey engines, vastly reducing crew needs. They were superior to steamships on the very long distance bulk cargo hauls, and could sail faster than the typical steam freighter could steam (<=8kts).

With rules from N3,
With a full rig, in normal weather this vessel could do 16 knots

This vessel is full rigged
In the Pacific, the full rigging, the modest bunker  and small size / draft means the vessel can have nearly unlimited range, calling on any anchorage world wide. All while not belching a cloud of coal smoke on the horizon. An anachronism in some ways, the purpose is to allow a presence in the South Pacific and patrol the sealanes to Asia.
The opposition is not expected to field substantive forces, but the combination of guns does make this vessel capable of combatting most light cruisers of the time successfully.


The eight heavy 190mm main guns are made of Bronze, and mounted in doublestacked casements allow both fore/aft fire, and 4 gun broadside fire. 

139mm guns on centerpivot mounts crown the double stacked casements.
A line of 139mm gunports (casements) amidships, completes the ability to fight off typical cruisers of the world.

The individual casements have splinter armor.

A set of 65mm guns festoon the ship as a means of defeating torpedo craft should it be necessary.

Armor :
A protective deck, crowning at +1.25m and descending to -1.06m is fitted.
The deck has a 50mm crown, and 125 mm slopes the entire length of the citadel.
Fore and aft, the slopes are only 60mm.
The individual casements have splinter armor.


Decks :
+6.13 Weather Deck
+3.69 Gun Deck
+1.25 Crown of Protective Deck
-1.19  2nd Deck, lower edge protective deck
-3.63  1st Deck
-6.55  Engineering Deck

Miscellaneous Weight :
697 below : Masts
40 below : 1 bow torpedo tubes, 2 tubes each broadside, 20 18" torpedoes, sited below protective deck
(737)

50 in hull : quarters for Marine Section : 25 men
70 in hull : Extra supplies
(120)

100 on deck : Aft staterooms
40 on deck : 2 x 10t motor launch
(140)

25 Above deck : LR radio
49 FC platforms in fighting tops
348 Above deck : Sails
(422)

Void : 125t excess

"half hull speed = 5% normal displacement weight, every additional knot = +1% normal displacement weight, every additional knot above hull speed = +2% normal displacement weight"

This is the alternate means of calculating sailing rig.
Split 2/3 below, 1/3 above - masts and sails.

With a normal of  5,499 a 1/2 hull speed (9.145kts) costs : 274.95
For every additional +1  knot the cost is 109.98
14kts : (15%) 824.85  Masts : 550  Sail : 275
16kts  sailing speed (19%) : 1045 ;  Masts : 697, Sails : 348

[Desertfox]

It might not be their intention but both of those make great raiders.

[maddox]

Unfortunatly, anything warship-like build after 1905 can catch them.
And every seaman worth his dollop of Pisco can recognise the Windjammer-cruisers with his eyes beaten shut.

[Jefgte]

...Even an old battleship from 1890 with 18kts

[Desertfox]

The 9-knot Seedler had quite a career during WWI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Seeadler_(1888)

[maddox]

The distinct lack of casemates with huge guns makes the Seeadler less conspicous.
On the other hand, if a merchant sees a windjammer under full steam approaching, aiming BIG bronze guns , I guess cmpliance will be easely aquired.

[Kaiser Kirk]

The 9-knot Seedler had quite a career during WWI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Seeadler_(1888)

Basically why Parthia still has hers.
Yes, a modern decent sized cruiser can beat them..but that means weeks or months not near the main battle.

There should be a lot of sailing ships around to 'blend into',  because you don't make a big black plume you are less conspicuous, and it frees you from coal stores.
A narrow busy sea..not so great.  But for the Pacific or South Atlantic...  these will beat a small cruiser. Someone would have to devote a powerful fleet unit to the east Pacific..or South Atlantic..actually these can go anywhere...to hunt them down. Many of the German cruisers were active for months or years... these could be quite the problem.

Anyhow, my job is to implement Maddox's vision.
So I was just trying to manage that.