Iberia 1910+

[Desertfox]

Speed is the big killer, trying to push the Mayas to 29 knots would have likely increased their size by 3,000t. 27kts is the sweet spot right now.

[Darman]

Fontes Iberis, Iberian Empire Screen Cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   3,968 t light; 4,118 t standard; 4,750 t normal; 5,255 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (459.32 ft / 459.32 ft) x 45.11 ft x (14.11 / 15.31 ft)
   (140.00 m / 140.00 m) x 13.75 m  x (4.30 / 4.67 m)

Armament:
      12 - 4.13" / 105 mm 50.0 cal guns - 37.39lbs / 16.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      3 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 488 lbs / 221 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.36" / 60 mm   298.56 ft / 91.00 m   8.07 ft / 2.46 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,633 ihp / 16,884 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,137 tons (85% coal)

Complement:
   285 - 371

Cost:
   £0.405 million / $1.619 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 96 tons, 2.0 %
   Armour: 780 tons, 16.4 %
      - Belts: 234 tons, 4.9 %
      - Armament: 32 tons, 0.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 490 tons, 10.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 24 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1,472 tons, 31.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,512 tons, 31.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 782 tons, 16.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 108 tons, 2.3 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 36 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,688 lbs / 2,580 Kg = 161.0 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 82 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.63

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.569 / 0.580
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.39 ft / 7.13 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.21 ft / 4.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,717 Square feet or 1,367 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 66 lbs/sq ft or 322 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.33
      - Overall: 1.01
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Weight:
Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
1905 Fire Control - 11t above deck
60 mines and related equipment - 60t on deck
2 submerged forward torpedo tubesw/2 reloads each - 12t below deck

Fontes Iberis-class: Ebro, Hijar, Rudron, Oca, Nela, Bayas, Zadorra, Tiron, Najerilla, Ega, Cidacos, Aragon, Alhama, Quelles, Arba, Jalon, Huerva, Gallego, Martin, Segre, Guadalope

[snip]

Might want to check your armor coverage.

Why reciprocating and not turbines?

[Darman]

Might want to check your armor coverage.

Why reciprocating and not turbines?

Armor has always been a weak point in my understanding of ship design (one of many).  I've usually gone with the recommended standard or altered the main belt to cover more of the ship than the recommended portion to some arbitrary number, rarely have any reason for it.  What would make it better, and more importantly for future designs, why? 

I went with reciprocating engines because the ship it was based off had reciprocating engines.  I'll see what it looks like with turbines. 

[snip]

You have the lovely Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces warning. That typicly means boom if shot at.

[Darman]

Fontes Iberis, Iberian Empire Screen Cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   3,739 t light; 3,884 t standard; 4,500 t normal; 4,992 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (459.32 ft / 459.32 ft) x 45.11 ft x (14.11 / 15.31 ft)
   (140.00 m / 140.00 m) x 13.75 m  x (4.30 / 4.67 m)

Armament:
      12 - 4.13" / 105 mm 50.0 cal guns - 37.39lbs / 16.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      3 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 488 lbs / 221 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.36" / 60 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   8.07 ft / 2.46 m
   Ends:   1.38" / 35 mm   131.20 ft / 39.99 m   8.07 ft / 2.46 m
   Upper:   1.38" / 35 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 21,629 shp / 16,135 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 6,675nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,108 tons (85% coal)

Complement:
   274 - 357

Cost:
   £0.311 million / $1.246 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 96 tons, 2.1 %
   Armour: 1,004 tons, 22.3 %
      - Belts: 453 tons, 10.1 %
      - Armament: 32 tons, 0.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 496 tons, 11.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 23 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 918 tons, 20.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,516 tons, 33.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 761 tons, 16.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 204 tons, 4.5 %
      - Hull below water: 72 tons
      - Hull above water: 36 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 36 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,933 lbs / 3,598 Kg = 224.6 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 12.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.17
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.539 / 0.551
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.39 ft / 7.13 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.21 ft / 4.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,310 Square feet or 1,329 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 67 lbs/sq ft or 329 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.36
      - Overall: 1.03
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Weight:
Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
1905 Fire Control - 11t above deck
60 mines and related equipment - 60t on deck
2 submerged forward torpedo tubesw/2 reloads each - 12t below deck
Hydraulic Drives - 96.1t below deck (+333nm range = 7008nm total range)

Main Battery Layout: (approximately what I intended)
                    X          X          X          X
          X                                                       X
          X                                                       X
                    X         X           X          X

Fontes Iberis-class: Ebro, Hijar, Rudron, Oca, Nela, Bayas, Zadorra, Tiron, Najerilla, Ega, Cidacos, Aragon, Alhama, Quelles, Arba, Jalon, Huerva, Gallego, Martin, Segre, Guadalope

[Darman]

You have the lovely Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces warning. That typicly means boom if shot at.

You are absolutely correct and I did not even notice.  Looks like its mostly fixed now.  I redid it with turbines and a hydraulic drive and added armor.  Gives me a smaller (and cheaper) vessel overall. 

[snip]

Still looks like you have some composite to play with. I would make these a little faster, 25knts feels a hair too slow.

[Darman]

Still looks like you have some composite to play with. I would make these a little faster, 25knts feels a hair too slow.

As I was posting it I was wondering if it was too slow.  I based it on scout cruisers but intended it as a screening cruiser rather than a scout or even destroyer leader.  At one point I had print-outs of every other nation's capital ships and cruisers and their basic statistics.  Now its out of date (it was based only on pre-1910 builds).  Can I go down to 0.9 composite? Or cross-sectional? 

[Darman]

Trying my hand at a battlecruiser.  I think I did the TDS properly but not positive.  Added a second long-range wireless for redundancy, as this vessel is supposed to be sent far away from the homeland. 

Algeria, Iberian Empire Battlecruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   23,968 t light; 25,211 t standard; 26,956 t normal; 28,352 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (780.85 ft / 771.00 ft) x 86.94 ft x (25.59 / 26.63 ft)
   (238.00 m / 235.00 m) x 26.50 m  x (7.80 / 8.12 m)

Armament:
      8 - 11.02" / 280 mm 45.0 cal guns - 675.51lbs / 306.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      16 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      16 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      10 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 6,885 lbs / 3,123 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.09" / 180 mm   577.43 ft / 176.00 m   11.38 ft / 3.47 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   193.54 ft / 58.99 m   11.38 ft / 3.47 m
   Upper:   1.97" / 50 mm   577.43 ft / 176.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.18" / 30 mm   511.81 ft / 156.00 m   24.08 ft / 7.34 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.8" / 325 mm   6.89" / 175 mm      10.2" / 260 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 113,464 shp / 84,644 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,141 tons

Complement:
   1,051 - 1,367

Cost:
   £2.222 million / $8.887 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,239 tons, 4.6 %
   Armour: 6,578 tons, 24.4 %
      - Belts: 2,425 tons, 9.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 539 tons, 2.0 %
      - Armament: 1,865 tons, 6.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,558 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 191 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 4,446 tons, 16.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,196 tons, 37.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,988 tons, 11.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,510 tons, 5.6 %
      - Hull below water: 636 tons
      - Hull above water: 500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 174 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     40,717 lbs / 18,469 Kg = 60.8 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 5.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 16.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.46

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17.70 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  30.87 ft / 9.41 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      25.86 ft / 7.88 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 215.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 46,781 Square feet or 4,346 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 153 lbs/sq ft or 749 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.23
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc. Weight
Short Range Wireless
Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
Extra Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
1905 Fire Control - 124t above deck
Flag Facilities - 100t on deck
Electric Drives - 1135.5t belowdeck (+1200nm = 9,200nm range)
Excess Capacity - 100t

Algeria-class: Algiers, Oran, Constantine, Annaba, Blida, Batna, Djelfa, Setif, Biskra

[Darman]

A second option on a similar hull with 350mm guns in a triple turret.  Tried to keep everything else the same but the 3x3 option didn't work, too much broadside for the hull to handle, they could only fire end-on. 

Algeria, Iberian Empire Battlecruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   25,528 t light; 26,779 t standard; 28,600 t normal; 30,057 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (813.66 ft / 803.81 ft) x 88.58 ft x (26.25 / 27.29 ft)
   (248.00 m / 245.00 m) x 27.00 m  x (8.00 / 8.32 m)

Armament:
      6 - 13.78" / 350 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1,384.91lbs / 628.18kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model
     2 x Triple mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      16 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      10 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 9,790 lbs / 4,441 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.48" / 190 mm   593.83 ft / 181.00 m   11.38 ft / 3.47 m
   Ends:   2.17" / 55 mm   209.94 ft / 63.99 m   11.38 ft / 3.47 m
   Upper:   2.17" / 55 mm   593.83 ft / 181.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.18" / 30 mm   511.81 ft / 156.00 m   24.08 ft / 7.34 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.4" / 290 mm   6.50" / 165 mm      9.06" / 230 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 115,150 shp / 85,902 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,278 tons

Complement:
   1,099 - 1,429

Cost:
   £2.680 million / $10.721 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,833 tons, 6.4 %
   Armour: 6,320 tons, 22.1 %
      - Belts: 2,664 tons, 9.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 539 tons, 1.9 %
      - Armament: 1,286 tons, 4.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,633 tons, 5.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 198 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 4,512 tons, 15.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,303 tons, 39.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,072 tons, 10.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,561 tons, 5.5 %
      - Hull below water: 628 tons
      - Hull above water: 500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 233 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     40,210 lbs / 18,239 Kg = 30.7 x 13.8 " / 350 mm shells or 4.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 15.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.72
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.55

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.536 / 0.541
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.07 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 28.35 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17.70 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  30.87 ft / 9.41 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      25.86 ft / 7.88 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 216.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 49,028 Square feet or 4,555 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 164 lbs/sq ft or 799 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.28
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc. Weight
Short Range Wireless
Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
Extra Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
1905 Fire Control - 183.3t above deck
Flag Facilities - 100t on deck
Electric Drives - 1128t belowdeck (+1200nm = 9,200nm range)
Excess Capacity - 100t on deck

Algeria-class: Algiers, Oran, Constantine, Annaba, Blida, Batna, Djelfa, Setif, Biskra

[Darman]

Revisiting old designs that I might want to start in 1913/2

Fontes Iberis, Iberian Empire Screen Cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   3,739 t light; 3,884 t standard; 4,500 t normal; 4,992 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (459.32 ft / 459.32 ft) x 45.11 ft x (14.11 / 15.31 ft)
   (140.00 m / 140.00 m) x 13.75 m  x (4.30 / 4.67 m)

Armament:
      12 - 4.13" / 105 mm 50.0 cal guns - 37.39lbs / 16.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      3 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 488 lbs / 221 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.36" / 60 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   8.07 ft / 2.46 m
   Ends:   1.38" / 35 mm   131.20 ft / 39.99 m   8.07 ft / 2.46 m
   Upper:   1.38" / 35 mm   328.08 ft / 100.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 21,629 shp / 16,135 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 6,675nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,108 tons (85% coal)

Complement:
   274 - 357

Cost:
   £0.311 million / $1.246 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 96 tons, 2.1 %
   Armour: 1,004 tons, 22.3 %
      - Belts: 453 tons, 10.1 %
      - Armament: 32 tons, 0.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 496 tons, 11.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 23 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 918 tons, 20.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,516 tons, 33.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 761 tons, 16.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 204 tons, 4.5 %
      - Hull below water: 72 tons
      - Hull above water: 36 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 36 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,933 lbs / 3,598 Kg = 224.6 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 12.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.17
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.539 / 0.551
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.39 ft / 7.13 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.21 ft / 4.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,310 Square feet or 1,329 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 67 lbs/sq ft or 329 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.36
      - Overall: 1.03
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Weight:
Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
1905 Fire Control - 11t above deck
60 mines and related equipment - 60t on deck
2 submerged forward torpedo tubesw/2 reloads each - 12t below deck
Hydraulic Drives - 96.1t below deck (+333nm range = 7008nm total range)

Main Battery Layout: (approximately what I intended)
                    X          X          X          X
          X                                                       X
          X                                                       X
                    X         X           X          X

Fontes Iberis-class: Ebro, Hijar, Rudron, Oca, Nela, Bayas, Zadorra, Tiron, Najerilla, Ega, Cidacos, Aragon, Alhama, Quelles, Arba, Jalon, Huerva, Gallego, Martin, Segre, Guadalope

[Darman]

Added a little speed

Fontes Iberis, Iberian Empire Screen Cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   4,394 t light; 4,554 t standard; 5,265 t normal; 5,834 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (475.72 ft / 475.72 ft) x 45.93 ft x (14.76 / 16.04 ft)
   (145.00 m / 145.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (4.50 / 4.89 m)

Armament:
      12 - 4.13" / 105 mm 50.0 cal guns - 37.39lbs / 16.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      3 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 488 lbs / 221 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.36" / 60 mm   309.22 ft / 94.25 m   8.14 ft / 2.48 m
   Ends:   1.38" / 35 mm   166.47 ft / 50.74 m   8.14 ft / 2.48 m
   Upper:   1.38" / 35 mm   309.22 ft / 94.25 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 32,227 shp / 24,042 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,279 tons (85% coal)

Complement:
   308 - 401

Cost:
   £0.405 million / $1.621 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 96 tons, 1.8 %
   Armour: 1,049 tons, 19.9 %
      - Belts: 452 tons, 8.6 %
      - Armament: 32 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 539 tons, 10.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 26 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1,369 tons, 26.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,635 tons, 31.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 871 tons, 16.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 245 tons, 4.7 %
      - Hull below water: 100 tons
      - Hull above water: 49 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
      - Above deck: 36 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,370 lbs / 3,343 Kg = 208.7 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 12.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.571 / 0.582
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.36 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.39 ft / 7.13 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m,  15.58 ft / 4.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.21 ft / 4.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,556 Square feet or 1,445 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 123 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 68 lbs/sq ft or 330 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.19
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weight:
Long Range Wireless - 25t above deck
1905 Fire Control - 11t above deck
60 mines and related equipment - 60t on deck
2 submerged forward torpedo tubesw/2 reloads each - 12t below deck
Hydraulic Drives - 137t below deck (+350nm range = 7350nm total range)

Main Battery Layout: (approximately what I intended)
                    X          X          X          X           
          X                                                       X     
          X                                                       X         
                    X         X           X          X

Fontes Iberis-class: Ebro, Hijar, Rudron, Oca, Nela, Bayas, Zadorra, Tiron, Najerilla, Ega, Cidacos, Aragon, Alhama, Quelles, Arba, Jalon, Huerva, Gallego, Martin, Segre, Guadalope

[Kaiser Kirk]

First use of hydraulic drives I think :)

[snip]

The Hydraulic drives are an interesting choice. I wonder how much additional height you can add to the belt with the 137t they take up, 2.48m is not a lot of coverage and I think the design would be better served with a more extensive belt than 350nm more range.