Japanese Ship Designs 1912+

Started by Desertfox, April 02, 2020, 03:44:54 PM

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Desertfox

An improvement on the Agano class, these ships drop a bit of range and the marine accommodations for the ability to self-deploy indefinitely...

Improved Agano class, Japan Cruiser laid down 1912

Displacement:
   3,999 t light; 4,225 t standard; 4,872 t normal; 5,390 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (400.00 ft / 400.00 ft) x 49.00 ft x (17.40 / 18.79 ft)
   (121.92 m / 121.92 m) x 14.94 m  x (5.30 / 5.73 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 258.18lbs / 117.11kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,537 lbs / 697 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   240.00 ft / 73.15 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20,456 shp / 15,260 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 4,490nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,165 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   291 - 379

Cost:
   £0.385 million / $1.541 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 308 tons, 6.3 %
      - Guns: 308 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 808 tons, 16.6 %
      - Belts: 286 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armament: 164 tons, 3.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 358 tons, 7.3 %
   Machinery: 888 tons, 18.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,475 tons, 30.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 873 tons, 17.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 520 tons, 10.7 %
      - Hull below water: 400 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 70 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,699 lbs / 2,585 Kg = 22.3 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 12.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.512
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.16 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   30.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.24 ft / 4.65 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,059 Square feet or 1,213 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 382 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 1.74
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

70t - FC +  Long-range wireless
10t - 4 x 18" torpedo tubes
40t - 2 x extra boats
400t - Out-of-Port Resupply
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

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Desertfox

Improvement on the Umikaze class, adding 1000nm range, and a much heavier armament.

Sakura, Japan Destroyer laid down 1912

Displacement:
   710 t light; 742 t standard; 791 t normal; 830 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (303.00 ft / 300.00 ft) x 30.00 ft x (7.50 / 7.75 ft)
   (92.35 m / 91.44 m) x 9.14 m  x (2.29 / 2.36 m)

Armament:
      3 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      Weight of broadside 189 lbs / 86 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.00" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 17,446 shp / 13,015 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 2,700nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 88 tons

Complement:
   73 - 96

Cost:
   £0.091 million / $0.362 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 33 tons, 4.2 %
      - Guns: 33 tons, 4.2 %
   Armour: 10 tons, 1.2 %
      - Armament: 8 tons, 1.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 405 tons, 51.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 247 tons, 31.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 80 tons, 10.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 2.0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 16 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     247 lbs / 112 Kg = 4.0 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.410 / 0.417
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   27.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Aft deck:   28.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.62 ft / 3.85 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 177.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 5,574 Square feet or 518 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 53 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 130 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.68
      - Overall: 0.56
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

16t - 8 x 18" Torpedoes
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

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Desertfox

Destroyer Leader version of the Mogamis, much lower range, but more speed and torpedoes.

Yahagi class, Japan Destroyer Leader laid down 1912

Displacement:
   2,001 t light; 2,083 t standard; 2,177 t normal; 2,252 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (390.00 ft / 390.00 ft) x 40.00 ft x (11.10 / 11.37 ft)
   (118.87 m / 118.87 m) x 12.19 m  x (3.38 / 3.46 m)

Armament:
      5 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 315 lbs / 143 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 29,481 shp / 21,993 Kw = 30.00 kts
   Range 2,700nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 169 tons

Complement:
   159 - 207

Cost:
   £0.235 million / $0.939 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 55 tons, 2.5 %
      - Guns: 55 tons, 2.5 %
   Armour: 13 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 13 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 1,070 tons, 49.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 799 tons, 36.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 176 tons, 8.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 65 tons, 3.0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     990 lbs / 449 Kg = 15.8 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
   Metacentric height 1.8 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 12.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.440 / 0.445
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 71
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   33.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   22.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.05 ft / 4.28 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 9,871 Square feet or 917 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 85 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 53 lbs/sq ft or 256 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.85
      - Longitudinal: 1.43
      - Overall: 0.90
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t - Long-range wireless
24t - Flag-facilities
16t - 8 x 18"  Torpedoes
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20090102.html

snip

Sakura is cute. Those 5" guns pack a punch and center line is a nice layout. Cant say Im a fan of how small she is compared to the F-class, but thats a 2 year old design at this point. Maybe I should look at a 140mm armed version...
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: snip on April 02, 2020, 05:15:12 PM
Sakura is cute. Those 5" guns pack a punch and center line is a nice layout. Cant say Im a fan of how small she is compared to the F-class, but thats a 2 year old design at this point. Maybe I should look at a 140mm armed version...

The IJN fields alot of 5" guns I've noted :)

The Parthians are just now finishing a new 120mm gun, but I'm planning a 135mm (close to 140) being more the 'standard'....if I get there..120 might have to do.

Quote from: Desertfox on April 02, 2020, 04:22:31 PM
Improvement on the Umikaze class, adding 1000nm range, and a much heavier armament.

Sakura, Japan Destroyer laid down 1912


my first thought was, wow, why don't mine go 30kts, then I realized mine are a 1910 class. Plus I don't seem to have the knack of destroyer design.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Desertfox

Well I am restricted to 750t destroyers so can't really make them much bigger. Japan does not have a 4" or equivalent gun, so its either 3" like the previous class or 5". I do have quite a bit of experience with destroyers, New Switzerland back in the day had lots and lots and lots of them...
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

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Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: Desertfox on April 03, 2020, 01:13:23 AM
Well I am restricted to 750t destroyers so can't really make them much bigger. Japan does not have a 4" or equivalent gun, so its either 3" like the previous class or 5". I do have quite a bit of experience with destroyers, New Switzerland back in the day had lots and lots and lots of them...

Parthia is 750tonners as well, actually eyeing a set of new 500tonners.  But my last was 1910- 29.50 knots...smaller guns (90mm), but 50% more fuel tonnage, and 40t is a lot for ships these size.

Have the Japanese decided that FC on DDs/DDLs just doesn't add enough to the equation? Or is that an oversight?
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Desertfox

FC or no FC you're not hitting anything from a destroyer... its not really worth the 4 tons of misc weight. The range isn't where I want it yet, but its 1,000nm that the previous class.
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

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Desertfox

A concept at this point. A dedicated raider, not very fast but can cruise at high speeds for a long time. Can support itself indefinitely away from ports. Very cheap so can be built in numbers.

Mogami class, Japan Raider laid down 1912

Displacement:
   1,700 t light; 1,781 t standard; 2,464 t normal; 3,010 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (390.00 ft / 390.00 ft) x 42.00 ft x (11.70 / 13.53 ft)
   (118.87 m / 118.87 m) x 12.80 m  x (3.57 / 4.12 m)

Armament:
      5 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 185 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1912 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 315 lbs / 143 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13,122 shp / 9,789 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 7,200nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,229 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   174 - 227

Cost:
   £0.169 million / $0.677 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 85 tons, 3.4 %
      - Guns: 85 tons, 3.4 %
   Armour: 13 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armament: 13 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 570 tons, 23.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 802 tons, 32.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 764 tons, 31.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 230 tons, 9.3 %
      - Hull below water: 170 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,321 lbs / 1,506 Kg = 53.1 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.49
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.450 / 0.475
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.36 ft / 3.46 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,448 Square feet or 971 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 148 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 55 lbs/sq ft or 270 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 0.98
      - Overall: 0.90
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

10t - 1905 Fire Control
25t - Long-range wireless
15t - Improved spotting/reconnaissance equipment
10t - 4 x 18" Torpedo Tubes
170t - Out-of-Port Resupply
"We don't run from the end of the world. We CHARGE!" Schlock

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Desertfox

Nothing to see here, just your average fishing boat.

Fishing Vessel #42, Japan Junk (Reconnaissance ship) laid down 1910

Displacement:
   100 t light; 102 t standard; 110 t normal; 116 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (80.00 ft / 80.00 ft) x 32.00 ft x (3.00 / 3.13 ft)
   (24.38 m / 24.38 m) x 9.75 m  x (0.91 / 0.95 m)

Armament:
      1 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm 45.0 cal gun - 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 300 per gun
     Machine gun in deck mount, 1912 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
      4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg

Machinery:
   Petrol Internal combustion motors,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 144 ihp / 107 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 900nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 14 tons

Complement:
   16 - 22

Cost:
   £0.005 million / $0.019 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.1 %
      - Guns: 0 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 9 tons, 8.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 44 tons, 39.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 10 tons, 9.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 47 tons, 42.8 %
      - Hull below water: 15 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 5 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     539 lbs / 244 Kg = 8,616.5 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.01
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 8.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.506
   Length to Beam Ratio: 2.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 8.94 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      5.24 ft / 1.60 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 45.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,640 Square feet or 152 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 167 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 115 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.87
      - Longitudinal: 3.60
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

15t- Junk sail rig
25t - Long-range wireless
6t - Espionage equipment
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Desertfox

Updated the intelligence junk, conversion from a stock civilian junk, cost 28t, $0.028

"Fishing Boat 42", Japan Junk (espionage ship) laid down 1900 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   95 t light; 97 t standard; 99 t normal; 100 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (80.00 ft / 80.00 ft) x 32.00 ft x (2.70 / 2.73 ft)
   (24.38 m / 24.38 m) x 9.75 m  x (0.82 / 0.83 m)

Armament:
      1 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm 45.0 cal gun - 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 300 per gun
     Machine gun in deck mount, 1900 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
      4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 0 lbs / 0 kg

Machinery:
   Petrol Internal combustion motors,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 54 ihp / 41 Kw = 7.90 kts
   Range 420nm at 7.90 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3 tons

Complement:
   15 - 20

Cost:
   £0.004 million / $0.015 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.1 %
      - Guns: 0 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 3 tons, 3.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 42 tons, 43.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 tons, 3.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 49 tons, 49.6 %
      - Hull below water: 15 tons
      - Hull above water: 4 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 5 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     755 lbs / 342 Kg = 12,075.9 x 0.5 " / 13 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.29
   Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 7.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.502
   Length to Beam Ratio: 2.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 8.94 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  5.00 ft / 1.52 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      5.24 ft / 1.60 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 34.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,706 Square feet or 158 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 175 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 111 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.86
      - Longitudinal: 3.61
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

21t- Junk sail rig
25t - Long-range wireless
3t - Espionage equipment

2 separate petrol motors
1 x 50 hp powers boat, max speed 7.7kts
1 x 4 hp powers wireless
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Desertfox

#11
I really liked the coast defense cruiser I designed for the Inca, so made a colonial gunboat version for the Japanese. Guns are big enough to dissuade most PCs and keep the locals in check and it can self-deploy, while being very cheap.

Thonburi, Japan Colonial Gunboat laid down 1913

Displacement:
   2,499 t light; 2,670 t standard; 2,934 t normal; 3,145 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (340.00 ft / 340.00 ft) x 47.00 ft x (11.90 / 12.57 ft)
   (103.63 m / 103.63 m) x 14.33 m  x (3.63 / 3.83 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 258.18lbs / 117.11kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      20 - 2.00" / 50.8 mm 45.0 cal guns - 4.03lbs / 1.83kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Quintuple mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,366 lbs / 619 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   190.00 ft / 57.91 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 86 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8,059 shp / 6,012 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 5,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 474 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   199 - 259

Cost:
   £0.272 million / $1.087 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 283 tons, 9.6 %
      - Guns: 283 tons, 9.6 %
   Armour: 550 tons, 18.7 %
      - Belts: 168 tons, 5.7 %
      - Armament: 98 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 266 tons, 9.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 344 tons, 11.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 966 tons, 32.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 435 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 357 tons, 12.2 %
      - Hull below water: 250 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 77 tons
      - Above deck: 30 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,668 lbs / 1,664 Kg = 14.3 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.540 / 0.548
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.44 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   40.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.64 ft / 3.24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,048 Square feet or 1,026 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 360 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.86
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

30t - FC
25t - LR Wireless
8t - 4 x 18" TT
44t - 2 x Extra boats
250t - Out-of-port Resupply
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Desertfox

QuoteFor the Thonburi design, I personally find the limited protected volume (86% of normal length armored) to be a major flaw and would ether improve the protected volume or provide additional total protection for the waterline. While I don't expect the ship would survive a prolonged engagement because of this, its a mean little ship that I'm ok with having a practically nonexistent need to plan for.
When you are trying to stuff 20kts, 8in guns, and self-deployment capability into 2,500t, somethings gotta give.
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snip

I would like to hear Kirk's thoughts on the included Out-Of-Port resupply tonnage being usable by the ship its based on. That is admittedly a scenario I did not envision when writing that provision of the rules.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

eltf177

Quote from: Desertfox on May 06, 2020, 10:13:25 AMWhen you are trying to stuff 20kts, 8in guns, and self-deployment capability into 2,500t, somethings gotta give.

I hope a "Tomozuru"-type incident isn't going to happen...